Raikage A vs Hiruzen Sarutobi

[Killa Bee]

old sarutobi uses a genjutsu on the raikage(eventhough we haven't seen him use one, hes not rated a 5 in genjutsu for nothing), if it works he wins, if not he gets decimated by a liger bomb.

 

[rendranojutsu]

A > Old hiruzen.

Prime Hiruzen > Raikage.

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[lswhyte123]

Sarutobi wins this IMO.

He was able to hold himself against the 1st & 2nd Hokage edo's and manage to fend off Orochimaru.

I think it's a case of one who has intence physical strength & speed versus one who has a huge arsenol of techniques and has been shown to be very strong and fast at his base level.

Sarutobi has too many techniques of varying elements for Raikage.

 

[Rariatto]

Okay guys.. So, don't take a regart to things of Hiruzen's stat to be strongest Kage.
Only their skills.
I'm thinking, Hiruzen has nothing how he can defeat Raiakge..
Simply, Kishimoto didn't know what charakters will create..

 

[lswhyte123]

Okay guys.. So, don't take a regart to things of Hiruzen's stat to be strongest Kage.
Only their skills.
I'm thinking, Hiruzen has nothing how he can defeat Raiakge..
Simply, Kishimoto didn't know what charakters will create..

The real question is, other than his strength & speed,what does Raikage have?

Sarutobi has a huge list of techniques he can use, Raikage stands little chance.

 

[Rariatto]

The real question is, other than his strength & speed,what does Raikage have?

Sarutobi has a huge list of techniques he can use, Raikage stands little chance.

Sarutobi wasn't fast as Raikage in my opinion.. Though he has speed as Raikage, A has Raiton no Yoroi. He said that Chidori was the first jutsu what perforated his armour. Saruitobi has elemental techniques and I'm not thinking he can perforat his armour.
Next question is whether Sarutobi has 5 element, if he allegedly can do all techniques of Konoha

 

[lswhyte123]

Sarutobi wasn't fast as Raikage in my opinion.. Though he has speed as Raikage, A has Raiton no Yoroi. He said that Chidori was the first jutsu what perforated his armour. Saruitobi has elemental techniques and I'm not thinking he can perforat his armour.
Next question is whether Sarutobi has 5 element, if he allegedly can do all techniques of Konoha

Kishi stated he can,thus he can. Until proven otherwise.

Basically,you've got a younger and less experienced albeit very powerful Raikage versus a very smart,skilled,powerful Hokage.

Sarutobi had such chakra levels and skill that he could make 1000 shuriken out of 1 single shuriken. He's gonna have moves which can get past Raikage.

Basically you have no reason to think Raikage can win and I have little reason to say Sarutobi can win. Fact remains,Raikage wasn't and isn't considered the strongest of the Kage in his village. Sarutobi is considered the best ever by many.

 

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[Rariatto]

Kishi stated he can,thus he can. Until proven otherwise.

Basically,you've got a younger and less experienced albeit very powerful Raikage versus a very smart,skilled,powerful Hokage.

Sarutobi had such chakra levels and skill that he could make 1000 shuriken out of 1 single shuriken. He's gonna have moves which can get past Raikage.

Basically you have no reason to think Raikage can win and I have little reason to say Sarutobi can win. Fact remains,Raikage wasn't and isn't considered the strongest of the Kage in his village. Sarutobi is considered the best ever by many.

You thinking that Shurikens can perforate Raikage's armour?.. If Raikage active his Raiton on max version, he can kill Sarutobi in one second.. And it don't depend whether was Sarutobi young or old.. He can do nothing if Raikage use his super fast Shunshin..

 

[lswhyte123]

You thinking that Shurikens can perforate Raikage's armour?.. If Raikage active his Raiton on max version, he can kill Sarutobi in one second.. And it don't depend whether was Sarutobi young or old.. He can do nothing if Raikage use his super fast Shunshin..

I don't think Shuriken can kill Raikage. I was giving an example of his skills.

Anyway, you have no proof that Raikage can or could kill Sarutobi so grow up and either present evidence to back your claim or just move on and accept that I have a different opinion.

 

[Owarij]

You thinking that Shurikens can perforate Raikage's armour?.. If Raikage active his Raiton on max version, he can kill Sarutobi in one second.. And it don't depend whether was Sarutobi young or old.. He can do nothing if Raikage use his super fast Shunshin..

genjutsu can , and according to konohamaru's teacher hiruzen is a master of genjutsu and knows thousands of them

and he has a 5 in genjutsu in databooks

 

[lswhyte123]

genjutsu can , and according to konohamaru's teacher hiruzen is a master of genjutsu and knows thousands of them

and he has a 5 in genjutsu in databooks

I didn't say shuriken could btw. I was simply stating how skilled Sarutobi was.

 

[Owarij]

I didn't say shuriken could btw. I was simply stating how skilled Sarutobi was.

i know lol O . O , i never argued that :S

 

[Blaze Release]

People actually believe old hiruzen > A?

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[Owarij]

People actually believe old hiruzen > A?

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i never said that lawl

not with that speed. i think he has what? a 3?

nononon
with a 5he should be able to evade some attacks

 

[Blaze Release]

i never said that lawl

not with that speed. i think he has what? a 3?

nononon
with a 5he should be able to evade some attacks

Phew, i began to lose faith in the little sense that nb has left in you and a few others

 

[uchiha480]

It was also stated that only the 4th was stronger than A

it was stated that only the 4th was fastest than A and not strongest!!!

 

[lswhyte123]

I personally feel that having great strength & speed isn't enough to take out a very well rounded and intelligent fighter.

I rate Hiruzen higher than I do A. Even the old version.

I agree that A is stronger but that Hiruzen has the tools and brains to win.

 

[uchiha480]

It was also stated that hiruzen was the most poweful kage at that time which included A
Hiruzen was fighting Hashirama ,tobirama and orochimaru.... a situation worse than fighting kyuubi....and A along with all kages cannot handle madara ...a man who was defeated by hashirama!!!!
so hiruzen would pawn A anytime

 

[Orochimaru89]

Hiruzen is more powerful