Nagato Overrated!! 1 vs 1

[Retsu]

and its a mid range jutsu but regardless he can defend easily with his mokuton techs

with a shinra tensei more powerful than the one that flattened Konoha?

I doubt it

my bad for the double post

 

[Nadruto]

I wish we could see more story behind Hashi, Madara , and Minato. These were 3 great shinobi and wold help clear up the top 5. Hopefully Keshi gives us more of a glimse into there past but I doubt it. Seems more like he's focused on all the current events.

I would be very amazed if we don't get a good look at Hashirama's background story. Kishimoto has a good tendency to let us take part in flashbacks of major character stories, he just likes to take his sweet time in doing so. But be patient, I am sure it will come! And when it does, I have a feeling most of us will understand why Hashirama is one of the greatest, if not the greatest character in the series.

 

[arv993]

Kishi knew Nagato was OP, it's why during edo saga, of all edo's, Nagato was the only one emaciated, now all other edo's came back in their prime, but for the sake of plot, Nagato was pretty much an aids patient for the majority of his time as an edo, you know why this was right?

Cuz Nagato prime would've broken the story, Kishi had to handicap him, it had to be made evident that he's not in his prime, bcuz he's that powerful, honestly, Nagato has the tools with just his rinnegan to be the undisputed #1 ranked Shinobi, just imagine if he was the type to use shadow clones, it's so broken it's ridiculous, but none the less, barring main characters and villains, Nagato is top 3

no no no he was like every other character who has his flaws he is not perfect. kishi gave him his complete mode after absorbing bee's chakra but he lacked mobility. a lot of characters have disadvantages such as itachi with his disease and also the ms being a burden its how the manga works. you are changing the story to make him stronger what kishi showed us. people can do that to many other characters

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

The first part, are you talking about Pain? If you are, they didn't even beat Pain.
Nagato has one of the largest chakra pools in the series, even if Naruto has more, Preta path says hi, he also has more experience, more jutsu's, more intelligence and Gedo Mazo. I still don't think Naruto is stronger than Nagato yet. Also, what techs can Naruto counter, and how?

Also Nagato's chakra pool is still a lot smaller than Naruto's with Kurama so in a battle of stamina he would lose.

 

[arv993]

with a shinra tensei more powerful than the one that flattened Konoha?

I doubt it

my bad for the double post

yea and hashi is gonna w8 for that to happen lol are u crazy he would try to end him if he got him in his genjutsu not give him time to pull off a hax jutsu. and hashi or madara has seen to create a forest instantly, i can see him defending himself against shinra tensei

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Shinra tensei- beaten by kuruma as seen by six tails easily resistng and pushing back deva's shinra tensei

CT- he can destoy that with his large scale tbb or even a bunch of clones throwing rasenshuriken and now he has his own chakra plus kyubi to do this

preta path and human path-nagato has to be close to nagato to actually get all his chakra and naruto being one of the fastest ninja it aint gonna happen

And nagato's summons can be beaten by naruto's oad army especially if he has pa and ma

Naruto has many clones for distraction and has good counters to nagato and he can definitely hit nagato seeing his superiority in numbers, speed and even raw power now.

Nagato has to be close to Naruto? I'm not talking about absorbing his power, I'm talking about absorbing his chakra attacks i.e. Futon Rasen Shuriken or whatever it's called. Also, if he tried to get up close Nagato could Shinra tensei Naruto towards him and take a good chunk of chakra with Preta. It took 8 tails of Kurama to break out of Chibaku tensei cast by a sick Nagato, who knows how much more powerful it would be cast by a healthy one? And when they broke Nagato's CB, it took a Susanoo tomoe, a Bijuu ball from Hachibi and a rasengan shuriken to break it.

Edit; AGAIN mercury you have IGNORED the point, "Preta says hi"

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Kishi knew Nagato was OP, it's why during edo saga, of all edo's, Nagato was the only one emaciated, now all other edo's came back in their prime, but for the sake of plot, Nagato was pretty much an aids patient for the majority of his time as an edo, you know why this was right?

Cuz Nagato prime would've broken the story, Kishi had to handicap him, it had to be made evident that he's not in his prime, bcuz he's that powerful, honestly, Nagato has the tools with just his rinnegan to be the undisputed #1 ranked Shinobi, just imagine if he was the type to use shadow clones, it's so broken it's ridiculous, but none the less, barring main characters and villains, Nagato is top 3

I think kishi has dedicated a lot more of his time into Madara being OP than Nagato. It was Madara that got the best EDO not Nagato. Im sure this was for a reason. Nagato's legend/legacy still dosn't compare to Madara.

 

[Retsu]

no no no he was like every other character who has his flaws he is not perfect. kishi gave him his complete mode after absorbing bee's chakra but he lacked mobility. a lot of characters have disadvantages such as itachi with his disease and also the ms being a burden its how the manga works. you are changing the story to make him stronger what kishi showed us.

No I'm not, Im just giving an example, Nagato was purely screwed by plot, that's the ONLY reason he's not here, because if he didn't die, Naruto would be over, but tbh Naruto and bee imho were done when Nagato got to them, and the mobility excuse is SOOOOOOOO old, sure he's not Minato, but in a couple flash backs he seemed to move around fine, edo Nagato even when restored was still just an edo under Kabuto's control inexperienced user of the Rinnegan, and ppl in the rain village called Nagato a god, it's obvious that he's in his own league

 

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[ShinobiJinchuuriki]

Nagano is defiantly one of the strongest characters in Naruto!!! He is very underrated due to lack of fights. He is able to use techniques that make him almost invincible. He can absorb ninjutsu, reincarnate, summon and sooooooo much more!!!!
So :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::sy::sy::sy::sy:
To whoever posted this thread.

 

[arv993]

Nagato has to be close to Naruto? I'm not talking about absorbing his power, I'm talking about absorbing his chakra attacks i.e. Futon Rasen Shuriken or whatever it's called. Also, if he tried to get up close Nagato could Shinra tensei Naruto towards him and take a good chunk of chakra with Preta. It took 8 tails of Kurama to break out of Chibaku tensei cast by a sick Nagato, who knows how much more powerful it would be cast by a healthy one? And when they broke Nagato's CB, it took a Susanoo tomoe, a Bijuu ball from Hachibi and a rasengan shuriken to break it.

Edit; AGAIN mercury you have IGNORED the point, "Preta says hi"

and do u know how many clones naruto has and each capable and he is capable of making multiple frs techs especially since now kyubi is giving his chakra and not taking away naruto's.

Lol do u realize that there are 11 km clones. who are strong and fast enough to change the tide of the many battles in the war. nagatos arms were ripped off when there were two ninjas distracting him and with his kage level clones naruto can take him

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AND preta path doesnt work on sm clones which he has also been seen using at the side with his km clones so he can get nagato with that. and shinra tensei has 5 sec interval u think naruto the fastest ninja in the world with a bunch of clones can't get him within that time LMFAO.

 

[Retsu]

yea and hashi is gonna w8 for that to happen lol are u crazy he would try to end him if he got him in his genjutsu not give him time to pull off a hax jutsu. and hashi or madara has seen to create a forest instantly, i can see him defending himself against shinra tensei

half of nagato's arsenal requires no handseals, and shinra tensei is kinda quick, tbh how do you know Hashirama would get the chance to cast BoD with summons running around and shinra tensei coming from everywhere?

Nagato is Hashirama's worst match up

 

[arv993]

No I'm not, Im just giving an example, Nagato was purely screwed by plot, that's the ONLY reason he's not here, because if he didn't die, Naruto would be over, but tbh Naruto and bee imho were done when Nagato got to them, and the mobility excuse is SOOOOOOOO old, sure he's not Minato, but in a couple flash backs he seemed to move around fine, edo Nagato even when restored was still just an edo under Kabuto's control inexperienced user of the Rinnegan, and ppl in the rain village called Nagato a god, it's obvious that he's in his own league

its not an excuse but something kishi wrote u cant just disrgard that. he is strong but naruto, kabuto and tobi and madara outclass him

 

[Retsu]

its not an excuse but something kishi wrote u cant just disrgard that. he is strong but naruto, kabuto and tobi and madara outclass him

I'm not saying he's the strongest, but when you strip plot away from the story and really step back and look at who can do what, Nagato shines as one of the most OP anime characters in history, tbh if it werent for plot, Nagato would stomp Naruto.

 

[Mercury Uzumaki]

Nagato has to be close to Naruto? I'm not talking about absorbing his power, I'm talking about absorbing his chakra attacks i.e. Futon Rasen Shuriken or whatever it's called. Also, if he tried to get up close Nagato could Shinra tensei Naruto towards him and take a good chunk of chakra with Preta. It took 8 tails of Kurama to break out of Chibaku tensei cast by a sick Nagato, who knows how much more powerful it would be cast by a healthy one? And when they broke Nagato's CB, it took a Susanoo tomoe, a Bijuu ball from Hachibi and a rasengan shuriken to break it.

Edit; AGAIN mercury you have IGNORED the point, "Preta says hi"

Ok ill give you a scenarine of Naruto clones throws a rasen Shuriken at Nagato and he absorbs it. What happenes when there are 10 other clones with 20 more Shurikens waiting till he absorbs one to throw the other? He cant absorb forever. I dont think Shinra tensai would work against Naruto in KM i believe his speed has more for than shinra tensai. TBB would take out Chibaku tensai its equall to 7 TBB's with Naruto's new mode.

 

[arv993]

half of nagato's arsenal requires no handseals, and shinra tensei is kinda quick, tbh how do you know Hashirama would get the chance to cast BoD with summons running around and shinra tensei coming from everywhere?

Nagato is Hashirama's worst match up

r u shitting me his ultimate shinra tensei is no quickie it takes time to set up sure its faster than pain's but not 10x times faster. its not instantaneous if ur talking about the ultimate shinra tensei. hashi's tech is pretty fast so he should get him in the genjutsu not to mention after which he has to deliver a finishing blow on nagato who is blind which puts him an immense diasdvantage similar to
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and kabuto says without his shared vision he is pretty vulnerable and due to his lack of mobillity he is not a hard target to get

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bringer of darkness is a very useful tech against nagato. It exploits nagato's weakness

I'm not saying he's the strongest, but when you strip plot away from the story and really step back and look at who can do what, Nagato shines as one of the most OP anime characters in history, tbh if it werent for plot, Nagato would stomp Naruto.

naruto in his current form NO but yes if he were just in his sm mode or simple km mode w/o clones. plot hinders many characters lol not only nagato it also went against naruto, itachi and others. Plot is important u cant just ignore it, nagato probably wasnt even a natural rinnegan user but there are certain aspects of charcaters like weaknesses that kishi gives otherwise its boring and this happened to not only nagato. U simply ignoring the plot makes no sense

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Ok Arv. Even if Naruto > Nagato

1 - Tobi / Kabuto
2 - Kabuto / Tobi
3 - Edo Madara
4 - Naruto KM
5 - Nagato

Nagato would still make top 5, making him insanely poweful. Still rendering this thread ridiculous.

 

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[NotAnyones FanBoy]

I've seen a lot of threads and opinions Than Nagato in a 1 vs 1 battle would take out almost anyone and I dont understand it.He is top 10 but barely!

This is a list of people I think could take Nagato.


Tobi
Kabuto
Naruto
Sasuke
A(questionable)
Madara
Hashirama
Bee(questionable)
Itachi
Minato(no Specific order)

I see a lot of people say Nagato without being sick!? Does this mean Edo Nagato?If so then Nagato was never that strong when he was alive. Than power falls under Kabuto.

This is perfect Nagato

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This is his sacrifice.

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This is Kabuto's Edo not Nagato Healthy!

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Wanted to add this to clear things up a little.


Maybe they meant before he got the Gedo Mazo because that's when his sickness began and he made the sacrifice for the power he obtained.

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Nagato lacked mobility which is one of his major weaknesses and I think anyone on my list could exploit this.We also have to keep in mind at that time he was Edo, he'd be even slower in that machine he used when he was alive.

Paths: Naruto took out all the paths in SM. Everyone on the list is stronger and more effective than Naruto in SM.

Nagato is a very powerful character. And the rinnegan have amazing strenghts. But in a 1 vs 1 battle even if he had the paths his demise would be his mobility.

Jman with intel could have taken Nagato, and everyone on that list is stronger than Jman and are great battle Strategist with enough chakra to beat Nagato.

I would love to hear arguments and dont mean to offend anyone just my opinion and hey i could be wrong

I believe u are totally right except...
A and B: just NOOOOO
Minato: questionable

 

[arv993]

Ok Arv. Even if Naruto > Nagato

1 - Tobi / Kabuto
2 - Kabuto / Tobi
3 - Edo Madara
4 - Naruto KM
5 - Nagato

Nagato would still make top 5, making him insanely poweful. Still rendering this thread ridiculous.

yea he is in top 5 imo also but i doubt for long tho, sasuke is eventually gonna be better than him which is gonna happen but i dont fully believe in top 5 stuff but in general he is up there but not better than your 4 there which was my main point. I never said nagato doesn't belong in top5