Prime Nagato Vs Minato
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Pein (operated by unhealthy Nagato) > Minato
Pein (healthy Nagato) >>> Minato
Nagato >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minato
Pein (healthy Nagato) >>> Minato
Nagato >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Minato
Naruto N. Uzumaki
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people thing this be easy for nagato minato can ftg away and sneak attack
but still think nagato would win
but still think nagato would win
Itachi Uchiwa
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Flame Alchemist
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so the weekly itachi vs. nagato thread has now changed to weekly nagato vs. minato thread.
same thing I told before countless times.
minato doesn't have a technique to kill nagato. so nagato wins
same thing I told before countless times.
minato doesn't have a technique to kill nagato. so nagato wins
Minato without knowledge (since it's manga knowledge) of the rinnegan abilities would easily be defeated by Nagato. He would need to know A LOT of the rinnegans abilities and he can only do one summon. While Nagato can see through Hiraishin the 1st time Minato uses it... And Hiraishin is pretty much what Nagato needs to know to stomp Minato, because Gamabunta can be stomped by the various summons or by cerebrus alone...
BTW... Minato can't detect the chameleon... So if Nagato hides in it and uses a powerfull Shinra Tensei against him, he's KO... or the chameleon can always grab Minato like it grabbed Naruto in the manga and then all Nagato has to do is to quickly soul rip, and unlike Naruto, Minato does not have chakra cloak arms to help him ...
All Minato can do here is running away. He's just way too outclassed here, plus the huge problem that is NOT having knowledge against the rinnegan.
Even with knowledge he would still lose though but would try to avoid much better Nagato's moves.
You are lacking trolling abilities mate, that's not like you , you have to say things like:
"Minato solos because he's my favourite characther!!! Problem?? "
That's your true self... Not discussing some shit match where it's obvious who the winner would be ... Just say it: "Minato WINS because I say so!"
BTW... Minato can't detect the chameleon... So if Nagato hides in it and uses a powerfull Shinra Tensei against him, he's KO... or the chameleon can always grab Minato like it grabbed Naruto in the manga and then all Nagato has to do is to quickly soul rip, and unlike Naruto, Minato does not have chakra cloak arms to help him ...
All Minato can do here is running away. He's just way too outclassed here, plus the huge problem that is NOT having knowledge against the rinnegan.
Even with knowledge he would still lose though but would try to avoid much better Nagato's moves.
You are lacking trolling abilities mate, that's not like you , you have to say things like:
"Minato solos because he's my favourite characther!!! Problem?? "
That's your true self... Not discussing some shit match where it's obvious who the winner would be ... Just say it: "Minato WINS because I say so!"
Mercury Uzumaki
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Shinra tensai woudn't work on Minato he's to fast. If he can TP before Tobi absorbs him then he can TP before shinra tensai gets to him. I think Minito is a great VS for Nagato due to his spead, sealing jutsus and s/t jutsu(which we havnt seen the extent of). I see a lot of people saying Nagato wins but how? Its clear from the anima that he lacks mobility.
And mobility is Minato's strength. This would be a very dificult fight for Minito but i think he takes it. Also remember after Naruto got Bm yamoto clearly said he wasn't on the level of the 4th!
Which mean when he beat Nagato in SM he hadn't serpassed the 4th.Not just that Naruto is great at battle strategy but still not as good as his pops.
I see you saying Nagato but tell me how?
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And mobility is Minato's strength. This would be a very dificult fight for Minito but i think he takes it. Also remember after Naruto got Bm yamoto clearly said he wasn't on the level of the 4th!
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Which mean when he beat Nagato in SM he hadn't serpassed the 4th.Not just that Naruto is great at battle strategy but still not as good as his pops.
I see you saying Nagato but tell me how?
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Also, give reasons to as why you think this
"Prime Nagato" = mobility
The Nagato you're thinking of was the sick, near death Nagato that operated the six paths of pain from his spider thingy. It say's "He's not as good as Yondaime yet" nothing like what you said. This could also mean at dealing with the speed, as Naruto's speed was just complemented / compared to Minato's, Bee said; "A golden flash"
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Mercury Uzumaki
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So your talking about Edo Nagato? Thats not really Nagato he's also powered up from the Edo tech..Prime Nagato before he was sick was before he had Gedo Mazo and im sorry i just dont think he could beat Minito at that stage.He Got sick because of the power he accepted, but there are also drawbacks to that power. Edo Nagato I dont count because thats also using Kabuto's power and some of Nagato's.
In my opinion, Minato is the favourite in this fight. Nagato's greatest asset are his gravity manipulation techniques which are effectively countered by Minato's S/T techniques. I don't completely buy the argument the Nagato can Shinra Tensei away all the seals. There is some merit to this argument. However the kunais are in the ground and dislodging them will require firstly knowledge of Hiraishin which Nagato lacks here and secondly, a quite powerful omnidirectional Shinra Tensei which will leave, probably, some after effects on Nagato. People often point out the Shinra Tensei against the frogs as an example of a powerful Shinra Tensei which didn't leave any after effect. However, we have to remember that Shinra Tensei is a gravity manipulation technique and we know that gravity has greater effect on objects with greater mass. Thus, it can be argued that the frogs were blown away because of their great mass.
However, the main argument against Shinra Tensei nullifying is that Minato can leave seal's anywhere he has been. Hence, Minato can just leave the seals on the ground or on trees.
Nagato's CST and CT lose their effectiveness against Minato as we have seen he has seals all over the place. And only one seal is needed to survive to return to the battlefield which is a possibility with seals on the ground and then take advantage of the techniques effects on Nagato.
As for all other abilities of Nagato, Minato has the reflexes and the speed (even in base) to dodge Asura's lasers and missiles. Minato is not getting caught by Nagato which makes Preta, Hell and Human paths' abilities quite ineffective. Animal realm's summons will pose a problem, however, Minato has summons of his own. The frogs can keep cerebrus busy while Minato deals with Nagato. Chameleon's invisibility can be countered by summoning Ni Dai Sennin or using this detection technique.
Having said all of this, it will not be smooth sailing for Minato as the Rinnegan's shared vision will be quite difficult to counter. Shared vision will make it difficult for Minato to get a seal near Minato. However, this is possible with Minato great intellect particularly with no initial knowledge on Hiraishin on Nagato's part. He can use summons to distract Nagato's summons and devise a strategy to place a kunai near Nagato. Oe such strategy can be to start teleporting randomly to different seals and throwing kunai at Nagato to use Shinra Tensei to deflect them as Nagato has no movement speed, however due to Shinra Tensei's cool down, there is a good chance that a kunai can slip through. Furhtermore, Minato can employ Shunshin in conjunction with Hiraishin and then use Food Cart Destroyer on Nagato.
Nagato's gravity manipulation techniques while less effective offensively, will still be a great asset defensively. However, as I stated previously, Minato has the analytical ability to first notice the delay and then come with an effective strategy to counter it. Moreover, Hiraishin is the fastest justsu on the manga, thus even with shared vision Nagato will have trouble reacting to Minato as he does not have reflexes at the level of Minato.
The problem with Nagato is that he isn't much of a planner and mainly relies on raw power to win which is a great drawback against someone like Minato who has excellent analytical abilities and the skills which counter Nagato's most powerful techniques. Minato needs only one kunai in close vicinity of Nagato and this fight is over. Therefore, I am leaning towards Minato in this fight.
However, the main argument against Shinra Tensei nullifying is that Minato can leave seal's anywhere he has been. Hence, Minato can just leave the seals on the ground or on trees.
Nagato's CST and CT lose their effectiveness against Minato as we have seen he has seals all over the place. And only one seal is needed to survive to return to the battlefield which is a possibility with seals on the ground and then take advantage of the techniques effects on Nagato.
As for all other abilities of Nagato, Minato has the reflexes and the speed (even in base) to dodge Asura's lasers and missiles. Minato is not getting caught by Nagato which makes Preta, Hell and Human paths' abilities quite ineffective. Animal realm's summons will pose a problem, however, Minato has summons of his own. The frogs can keep cerebrus busy while Minato deals with Nagato. Chameleon's invisibility can be countered by summoning Ni Dai Sennin or using this detection technique.
Having said all of this, it will not be smooth sailing for Minato as the Rinnegan's shared vision will be quite difficult to counter. Shared vision will make it difficult for Minato to get a seal near Minato. However, this is possible with Minato great intellect particularly with no initial knowledge on Hiraishin on Nagato's part. He can use summons to distract Nagato's summons and devise a strategy to place a kunai near Nagato. Oe such strategy can be to start teleporting randomly to different seals and throwing kunai at Nagato to use Shinra Tensei to deflect them as Nagato has no movement speed, however due to Shinra Tensei's cool down, there is a good chance that a kunai can slip through. Furhtermore, Minato can employ Shunshin in conjunction with Hiraishin and then use Food Cart Destroyer on Nagato.
Nagato's gravity manipulation techniques while less effective offensively, will still be a great asset defensively. However, as I stated previously, Minato has the analytical ability to first notice the delay and then come with an effective strategy to counter it. Moreover, Hiraishin is the fastest justsu on the manga, thus even with shared vision Nagato will have trouble reacting to Minato as he does not have reflexes at the level of Minato.
The problem with Nagato is that he isn't much of a planner and mainly relies on raw power to win which is a great drawback against someone like Minato who has excellent analytical abilities and the skills which counter Nagato's most powerful techniques. Minato needs only one kunai in close vicinity of Nagato and this fight is over. Therefore, I am leaning towards Minato in this fight.