Why Jiraiya > Sasuke

[Prince Charles]

I dont think that Jiraiya could defeat Sasuke. I think this because one: we have not seen any tech that Jiraiya can use to avoid Amaterasu/Blaze Element Magatama. And because of Sasuke prowess in Genjutsu, Sasuke could overpower J-man with Tsukuyomi. But I doubt Jiraiya will even take a look into Sasuke's eyes. Sasuke>Jiraiya imo, but Jiraiya will still give Sasuke a heck of a fight.

jiraiya uses katon righther imo which can hold off ameratsu/blaze element magatma

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[-Cerberus-]

You potato, there's no way sasuke is letting jiraya go into sage mode you can forget about that kid. So he's screwed. Sasuke with his ms can beat him ems would violate his body. What can jiraya do to scare sasuke or beat him.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

I dont give him anything. Fact is, Sasuke is able to spam with MS right away, Jiraiya isnt able to seal without preparations.

True.

If that was this easy than Jiraiya would have just turn Itachi, Kisame, Orochimaru and Pain into frogs.

Sasuke was able to take control over Manda with three tomoe Sharingan, I see no reason why he wouldnt be able to do the same with frog elders with MS let alone EMS. And he doesnt have to control them both, controlling one of them for only two, three seconds would be enough.

did i not give you reasons why it would not be easy to control ma and pa. go back and read.
and the fact is if ms itachi cant take jiraiya easily than sasuke wont be better. ems id same techniques just no blindness. still same chakra consumption.

 

[Prince Charles]

I dont give him anything. Fact is, Sasuke is able to spam with MS right away, Jiraiya isnt able to seal without preparations.

True.

If that was this easy than Jiraiya would have just turn Itachi, Kisame, Orochimaru and Pain into frogs.

Sasuke was able to take control over Manda with three tomoe Sharingan, I see no reason why he wouldnt be able to do the same with frog elders with MS let alone EMS. And he doesnt have to control them both, controlling one of them for only two, three seconds would be enough.

frog elders> Manda :scorps:

 

[Ryuu..]

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I'm starting to enjoy this xd

 

[-Cerberus-]

Sasuke use's his sussano arrows j mans dead.
Jiraya isn't faster than kakashi in base mode....
And kakashi said the arrow is too fast to dodge or do jutsu
danzo said the same...

 

[Blaze Release]

thats like saying kisame's water wave is nothing as they can jump and walk on it. it isnt that simple. and the mud od the swamp is extremely sticky which is why to gigantic summons cant escape both of which a physically stronger than sasuke. and you sink almost instantly in case you didnt notice.

*sigh* kisame's wave is different in that case its moving and still you can stand on the water. Swamp of the underworld is stationary and is used to immobilise and nothing more. Sitcky or not (which it isnt) it just sinks the opponent. Summonings do not have chakra control of ninja's to stand on top of it like water.

Meh i cannot be asked anymore :sy:

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

*sigh* kisame's wave is different in that case its moving. Swamp of the underworld is stationary and is used to immobilise and nothing more. Sitcky or not (which it isnt) it just sinks the opponent. Summonings do not have chakra control of ninja's to stand on top of it like water.

Meh i cannot be asked anymore :sy:

do you actually think it is that simple this is a chakra infused swamp here just read this facts provided by the databook kishi himself wrote and yes its sticky

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[Turson]

did i not give you reasons why it would not be easy to control ma and pa. go back and read.

You give me no reasons why Sasuke wouldnt be able to control them for short seconds, nothing.

ems id same techniques just no blindness. still same chakra consumption.

Not really, EMS unlocks 4th kaleidoscope technique and from Susanoo example I can also say that it also makes previous ones more powerful.

frog elders> Manda

Yeah, just like MS > three tomoe Sharingan, and EMS >> three tomoe Sharingan. Bot to mention that MS is even able to contol Kyuubi.

 

[Zato]

jiraiya uses katon righther imo which can hold off ameratsu/blaze element magatma

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You do realize that Jiraiya will have to spam this ability NON STOP. This what Sasuke Susanoo is. Mass Amateratsu attacks. To top that off his Susanoo has a amateratsu sword that has incredible reach. He cannot stop amateratsu.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

jiraiya uses katon righther imo which can hold off ameratsu/blaze element magatma

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this as sasuke was able to stall the amaterasu with a measly fire ball jutsu a sage enhanced fire technique by jiraiya would overpower amaterasu which would not have he concussive power of a sage enhanced technique.

 

[-Cerberus-]

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How can J-man dodge this?
Sasuke's completed Susanoo displays an unusually shaped bow on its left arm. The arrows it uses are produced in an orb in its third hand. The arrows fly very fast and have great piercing power, going through a tree created by Wood Release with ease. Kakashi, a ninja with impressive speed, resorted to using Kamui to warp the arrows away due to the impossibility of evading them. The bow also doubles as a shield which is strong enough to withstand powerful Wind Release attacks.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

You do realize that Jiraiya will have to spam this ability NON STOP. This what Sasuke Susanoo is. Mass Amateratsu attacks. To top that off his Susanoo has a amateratsu sword that has incredible reach. He cannot stop amateratsu.

you do realize the chakra consumption of amaterasu? and incredible reach really i only saw between 8-15 meters in length tops.

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How can J-man dodge this?
Sasuke's completed Susanoo displays an unusually shaped bow on its left arm. The arrows it uses are produced in an orb in its third hand. The arrows fly very fast and have great piercing power, going through a tree created by Wood Release with ease. Kakashi, a ninja with impressive speed, resorted to using Kamui to warp the arrows away due to the impossibility of evading them. The bow also doubles as a shield which is strong enough to withstand powerful Wind Release attacks.

havent you read the other posts on how to counter it go bacl and read. you came a little late.

 

[Monkeysageof6paths]

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I'm starting to enjoy this xd

:rofl: you said that at the right moment dude xd

 

[-Cerberus-]

havent you read the other posts on how to counter it go bacl and read. you came a little late.

I couldn't care less if i came late kid tell me how he would avoid this?

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

You give me no reasons why Sasuke wouldnt be able to control them for short seconds, nothing.

Not really, EMS unlocks 4th kaleidoscope technique and from Susanoo example I can also say that it also makes previous ones more powerful.

Yeah, just like MS > three tomoe Sharingan, and EMS >> three tomoe Sharingan. Bot to mention that MS is even able to contol Kyuubi.

i gave you reason on how they PREPARE AND COUNTER IT. where is this 4th technique because untill we see it aint valid.

 

[-Cerberus-]

omg go read back im not repeating something that took me a while to write ass whole.

Its hole not whole. You really are a kid.

 

[Blaze Release]

do you actually think it is that simple this is a chakra infused swamp here just read this facts provided by the databook kishi himself wrote and yes its sticky

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Chakra infused swamp so what?. Are you trying to say because its been infused with chakra you cannot walk on it, if thats the case then here you go;

Zabuza released his chakra into the water;

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Due to the water being infused with chakra it made the water heavy, kakashi was still able to recover and was about to stand on it, (but zabuza used the water prison). This is besides the point though;

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He was able to stand on top of the chakra infused water;

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Moral of the story, just because something has been infused with the users chakra doesnt mean the opponent cannot stand on it and with this im done

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

you know prince charles it would be nice if you came in and helped rather than watch.

 

[Turson]

i gave you reason on how they PREPARE AND COUNTER IT. where is this 4th technique because untill we see it aint valid.

So now they gonna know exactly when Sasuke will use Genjutsu and prepare for it? How? And Itachi clearly said that EMS gives its user completely new eye technique.