Why Jiraiya > Sasuke

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you do realize the chakra consumption of amaterasu? and incredible reach really i only saw between 8-15 meters in length tops.
You do realize that its not the chakara consumption but the eye back lash you get when you don't have EMS. When you don't have EMS and use MS techs it strains the eyes to a very bad point that it could almost bring you to your knees. This is A LOT different now that he has EMS. His EMS makes his MS techs normal abilities now. If that was the case then he would not be spamming Susanoo again right off the bat after he got his EMS as he is doing now.

Also stop dictating the reach on his Susanoo sword. Itachi has shown that his own sword has long reach. The only difference is that its not the Totsuka sword when it comes to Sasuke.
 

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When creating a thread like this you gotta have your info ready otherwise you get demolished by the people who speak the truth because they got their info ready.
 

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Chakra infused swamp so what?. Are you trying to say because its been infused with chakra you cannot walk on it, if thats the case then here you go;

Zabuza released his chakra into the water;
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Due to the water being infused with chakra it made the water heavy, kakashi was still able to recover and was about to stand on it, (but zabuza used the water prison). This is besides the point though;
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He was able to stand on top of the chakra infused water;
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Moral of the story, just because somehing has been infused with the users chakra doesnt mean the opponent cannot stand on it and with this im done
he didnt realese it into the water he just created the mist and kakshi can sense the overflowing chakra.
in the prison he's floating around and even if he is standing what difference does it make he doesnt have anything else to stand on trapped in there. besides if you read the link it is adhesive and will drag you down.
 

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he's floating around and even if he is standing what difference does it make he doesnt have anything else to stand on trapped in there. besides if you read the link it is adhesive and will drag you down.
Floating around, is this guys serious?. It does make a difference because there isnt a difference whether jiraiya chooses to use this. As we saw kakashi was able to attack and stand on top of the water regardless. It would feel no different to being on dry land if you can stand on either water or mud.

Now you say he didnt release chakra into the water?, is this guys serious?. There are better things to do than try and argue with you
 

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Floating around, is this guys serious?. It does make a difference because there isnt a difference whether jiraiya chooses to use this. As we saw kakashi was able to attack and stand on top of the water regardless. It would feel no different to being on dry land if you can stand on either water or mud.

Now you say he didnt release chakra into the water?, is this guys serious?. There are better things to do than try and argue with you
did u not read the link it said both enemies and large creature summons. kishi wrote that himself. do you think it would be useful in a fight if academy students or genin can counter it?
 

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You do realize that its not the chakara consumption but the eye back lash you get when you don't have EMS. When you don't have EMS and use MS techs it strains the eyes to a very bad point that it could almost bring you to your knees. This is A LOT different now that he has EMS. His EMS makes his MS techs normal abilities now. If that was the case then he would not be spamming Susanoo again right off the bat after he got his EMS as he is doing now.

Also stop dictating the reach on his Susanoo sword. Itachi has shown that his own sword has long reach. The only difference is that its not the Totsuka sword when it comes to Sasuke.
whats the point there all still chakra taxing techniques. as itachi said after he did both amaterasu and tsukiyomi on sasuke and the toad stomach. and you stated it had a long reach and im just saying it doesnt.
 

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did u not read the link it said both enemies and large creature summons. kishi wrote that himself. do you think it would be useful in a fight if academy students or genin can counter it?
Even if that was the case and it isn't. Sasuke can just summon his Hawk like he did vs Danzo.

whats the point there all still chakra taxing techniques. as itachi said after he did both amaterasu and tsukiyomi on sasuke and the toad stomach. and you stated it had a long reach and im just saying it doesnt.
Because Sasuke proved during his match with the 5 kages AND Danzo AND Kakashi that its not the chakara that is the problem. Its the back lash to the eyes. Sasuke was able to form a complete Susanoo even after killing Danzo while fighting Kakashi. Sasuke has a sh*t load of chakara.
 
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did u not read the link it said both enemies and large creature summons. kishi wrote that himself. do you think it would be useful in a fight if academy students or genin can counter it?
Meh you hopeless. Ninja's can stand on it. Kishis wrote that himself?, the databook also claimed amaterasu was as hot as the sun, but it clearly isnt. Genins with great chakra control will counter it. Actually a waste of chakra to use it on a ninja
 

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You obviously hate Sasuke, do you? Lol.. anyways, J-man will not defeat an EMS Sasuke.. he'll not be able to break through Susanoo, Danzo vs MS Sasuke is an enough prove for that.
 

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Even if that was the case and it isn't. Sasuke can just summon his Hawk like he did vs Danzo.
he is gonna summon the hawk while he is in it i doubt that would work. but before he sinks it i suppose it works. but the point of bringing up this technique was to show how it counters susanoo. and it would be weird to watch im use susanoo while flying on that hawk. and the toad summons>hawk.
 

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Meh you hopeless. Ninja's can stand on it. Kishis wrote that himself?, the databook also claimed amaterasu was as hot as the sun, but it clearly isnt. Genins with great chakra control will counter it. Actually a waste of chakra to use it on a ninja
just no there is no point as you dont see what im saying. and it wont change your mind anyway so there is no point. and where do yuo think the databook got its facts from. if they made it up then no one would care about it or take it seriously.

sorry bro i was eating what u need help on?
just need someone on my side you know im getting attacked from all angles here.
 
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you know prince charles it would be nice if you came in and helped rather than watch.
just need someone on my side you know im getting attacked from all angles here.
k i got ya ima counter some posts right now :cool:

You obviously hate Sasuke, do you? Lol.. anyways, J-man will not defeat an EMS Sasuke.. he'll not be able to break through Susanoo, Danzo vs MS Sasuke is an enough prove for that.
yea thats y danzo was braking some rib cages :cool:
 
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:rolleyes:
Meh you hopeless. Ninja's can stand on it. Kishis wrote that himself?, the databook also claimed amaterasu was as hot as the sun, but it clearly isnt. Genins with great chakra control will counter it. Actually a waste of chakra to use it on a ninja
bro i gave you many reasons for jman's victory.:flaw:
how does sasuke counter getting turned into a frog
 

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Even if that was the case and it isn't. Sasuke can just summon his Hawk like he did vs Danzo.


Because Sasuke proved during his match with the 5 kages AND Danzo AND Kakashi that its not the chakara that is the problem. Its the back lash to the eyes. Sasuke was able to form a complete Susanoo even after killing Danzo while fighting Kakashi. Sasuke has a sh*t load of chakara.
he may have alot of chakra but they are all still chakra taxing techniqurs. and his susanoo fell in his fight with kakashi with his low chakra.
 
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