define base mode do you mean
naruto without kurama and sage mode
or naruto with out kurama but still has sage mode?
sage mode is a fighting style/jutsu , basically nintaijutsu , similar to the raikages armour
so sage mode techniques are allowed imo
oh than yea with sage mode i consider him jounin level
but i dont really consider base naruto without sage mode or kurama sage mode jounin level
read my reply above the 1 you quoted
no, i dont wanna sound like a hater but naruto has never shown me anything to prove he has the skills as a jounin. you cant compare his chakra mode to his base forms because his base is just terrible.
if anything i'd say sasuke has the skills of an elite jonin and his skills far surpass that of naruto
u just said paths arent that fast...
while naruto base clearly could hold his ground in pure taijutsu vs him
yet that same path was dodging a rampiging naruto/kyuubi
i know base naruto speed is still inferior to the likes of itachi , lee, gai
but its def jounin level or better
His a chuunin lvl with 1 S rank tech
The guy is slow,ave tai, no gen, and only 1 element how can he be jounin level in base.
+ rep for showing me taijutsu duel but i still hold my stance.
Naruto in base doesnt have the raw speed of lee, nor is he is a shunshin user
Well that S- Rank tech makes him loads strongerhe took two of kakuzu's hearts in a single blow , unlike kakashi who is a jonin
that taijutsu duel was nothing impressive, all he had to do was hold off pain for a couple of seconds. any of the leaf 11 can do that
hinata couldnt.... o wait , shes 4th best at taijutsu out of the whole group
rasengan is an A- rank tech , Odama rasengan too , summoning gamma the boss is not a S-rank either , toad collaboration , sage mode is a form yes because you have to gather nature chakra , an then you have a another form with upgrades . The only one he really has is Rasenshuriken
Are you retarded? Rasengan is the highest form of chakra manipulation also developed by the 4th hokage himself, And summoning the boss is defiantly above S Rank. It takes alot of chakra in naruto base mode to summon gamma. :flaw::flaw: