I dont understand something about kyubii

[twistedlink]

Why does naruto become uncontrollable so much more easily??

since releasing into 4tails he appears to go to 4tails all the time now, suggesting the seal is nearly broken.

I mean when yamato had to repeatedly stop him during rasenshuriken training, why did they always go 4tails kyubii mode?

why not 1 or 3 tails? why does he appear to keep going 4tails and 4tails only? because ususally he goes to 1-3 tails until hes majorly majorly pissed off, and then goes 4 tails, but now hes just turning directly into 4tails mode.

I dont get it unless the seal is weakening a LOT.

 

[konoha s beautiful beast]

we know that kuubi is the most powerfull creature in naruto universe.therefore is is eqstremly hard to controle it by a human.naruto is just a teenager who gets pissed of easyly. 4 tales is the limit naruto can handle.naruto can still controle himself after gaining one,two or three tales.after that kuubi gets nearly reseased and it is highly dangerios becaause if naruto looses controle over kuubi he will be consumed be the beast and kuubi will be released.4 tailes is just a limit that naruto can handle.
thats me opinion.I am interested in your ideas too

 

[zagubus]

i think naruto's body also uses it's own chakra to block the fox. so when naruto exhausts himself the fox chakra finds a way out. and i think he gets to 4 tails right away because... well... i think of it like a dam. at first the seal let a little chakra out but the more naruto used the chakra the bigger that leak got. now it's a hole big enough for the 4 tails to slip through. naruto doesn't know how to "fix" the seal but he can plug it up with his own chakra. but since he's just plugging it up it's not making the hole any smaller. so when he lets go the fox's chakra rushes out in 4 tail fashion... that's what i think anyway. make any sense? lol

 

[sandshark]

I agree with both statements above. The seal is weakening, J-man said so. When Naruto get very angry the fox leaks out. When four tails come out he loses conciousness, and can't control himself anymore. If left alone he would eventually go nine-tails.

 

[Toadie]

Why does naruto become uncontrollable so much more easily??

since releasing into 4tails he appears to go to 4tails all the time now, suggesting the seal is nearly broken.

I mean when yamato had to repeatedly stop him during rasenshuriken training, why did they always go 4tails kyubii mode?

why not 1 or 3 tails? why does he appear to keep going 4tails and 4tails only? because ususally he goes to 1-3 tails until hes majorly majorly pissed off, and then goes 4 tails, but now hes just turning directly into 4tails mode.

I dont get it unless the seal is weakening a LOT.

i think it has something to do with rather how intense the training was...

like if you get sick at the top of your health... it nothing you can power though it...but if you get sick while your exhausted your immunity are down... you get sick alot quicker..and its more likely that you might die...

so when he gets pissed he still at full power... but when he gets fustrated .. and he is exhausted the kyubbi tries his best to take control

i dont know thats the way i look at it...

 

[Hiruzen Sarutobi]

i think naruto's body also uses it's own chakra to block the fox. so when naruto exhausts himself the fox chakra finds a way out. and i think he gets to 4 tails right away because... well... i think of it like a dam. at first the seal let a little chakra out but the more naruto used the chakra the bigger that leak got. now it's a hole big enough for the 4 tails to slip through. naruto doesn't know how to "fix" the seal but he can plug it up with his own chakra. but since he's just plugging it up it's not making the hole any smaller. so when he lets go the fox's chakra rushes out in 4 tail fashion... that's what i think anyway. make any sense? lol

That's a great way of illustrating things. How do you guys think this problem will be solved? Can strenghten a seal?

 

[MinatoNaruto]

No Jiriaya weakened it himself remember he said that when they were off for that 2 year training he weakened the seal and almost got killed...at first when naruto got real angry it was just one tails....since its weakened it is now 4 tails and then he falls uncontious

 

[zagubus]

No Jiriaya weakened it himself remember he said that when they were off for that 2 year training he weakened the seal and almost got killed...at first when naruto got real angry it was just one tails....since its weakened it is now 4 tails and then he falls uncontious

that's right... but i thought it was mentioned in the manga that the seal also weakens bit every time Naruto uses the fox chakra. in any case, J-man did open the seal a bit to release more chakra allowing 4 tails to come out. though i still think the patch vs. plug still holds true that since naruto doesn't know how to fix the seal he's only able to plug up the hole. why doesn't anyone teach naruto about seals? then he'd have way better control over how much fox chakra leaks out.

 

[leafeater]

that's right... but i thought it was mentioned in the manga that the seal also weakens bit every time Naruto uses the fox chakra. in any case, J-man did open the seal a bit to release more chakra allowing 4 tails to come out. though i still think the patch vs. plug still holds true that since naruto doesn't know how to fix the seal he's only able to plug up the hole. why doesn't anyone teach naruto about seals? then he'd have way better control over how much fox chakra leaks out.

Yeah that's right, Jiriaya opened the seal with the scroll toad key. I presume that he closed it afterwards, though that's not mentioned. The seal itself is also weakening. Naruto will need to learn about the seal and seals in general unless that thing weakens to the point of him going 9-tails. I wonder if every time he uses a tail formation that that also weakens the seal or if they are independent. Either way, Minato wanted Naruto to have the toad seal scroll.

With Nature chakra in him, I believe that Naruto can balance any amount of Kyuubi chakra he takes in across the seal. If there is an infinite amount of Kyuubi and nature chakra, then he should be able to balance them even if they don't suppress themselves, though I wonder if I'm wrong and this is limited by Naruto's own chakra for the correct balance. It could be that the above would dwarf Naruto's chakra making him a toad, Kyuubi, or some freak. I could use some help on this, if anyone doesn't mind. Thanks

Also, assuming Naruto can control his emotions, does anyone think he can go four-tails and look like he does in 3-tails but with an extra tail?

 

[TheLoneWolf]

Also, assuming Naruto can control his emotions, does anyone think he can go four-tails and look like he does in 3-tails but with an extra tail?

i dont think so because each tail just reps how much of the 9tails charka naruto is using and with the addition of each tail naruto becomes more fox like in nature

 

[TheLoneWolf]

naruto needs to get that toadkey and use it to tighten up the seal althought it wont work that well because like stated early about the hole/plug theory (which i think is 100% correct) charka will still leak out through that hole but aleast the rest of the seal will be tightened.

 

[zagubus]

about that toad key... keys work both ways right? they can unlock and lock doors and such... everyone goes though so much trouble making sure naruto isn't over taken by the fox, why doesn't someone lock that mutt back up? surely there must be someone with the ability to use the toad key. i'm one of those people that believes naruto would be stronger at this point with out the kyuubi. i believe he uses a large amount of chakra to keep the fox in check and that if he didn't have to spend the chakra to do that he'd have a lot more chakra available to him.

 

[punk365]

Why does naruto become uncontrollable so much more easily??

since releasing into 4tails he appears to go to 4tails all the time now, suggesting the seal is nearly broken.

I mean when yamato had to repeatedly stop him during rasenshuriken training, why did they always go 4tails kyubii mode?

why not 1 or 3 tails? why does he appear to keep going 4tails and 4tails only? because ususally he goes to 1-3 tails until hes majorly majorly pissed off, and then goes 4 tails, but now hes just turning directly into 4tails mode.

I dont get it unless the seal is weakening a LOT.

the seal is prolly breaking