How did the 1st beat Madara???

What do you guys think?

  • Madara Shoulve Won.

    Votes: 27 6.6%
  • Hashirama Won because he was way stronger.

    Votes: 203 49.5%
  • They where equal, it was anyones battle.

    Votes: 114 27.8%
  • plot no jutsu strikes again!

    Votes: 66 16.1%

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Shodaime

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No, manga states that tailed beast are weak against Wood. Anyways you underestimate the 9 tails cause he wouldnt be taken down that easily and while Hashi is struggling with the 9 tails to seal him Madara is also attacking. You think Madara would let him control the fox just like that even while its under the influence of his sharingan.
Dude you are missing the point! If tailes beast are weak against wood jutsu that mean the 9 tails aint shit! Its been said hashi could control the tails beast lik a pet!! so 9 tails aint nothing against him while fighting with madara!! Remember hashi could make this thing call the perfect clone witch madara use latest chapter. Maybe its impossible for him to get beating with that perfect clone!! Madara is useless against hasshi.Maybe the wood was the source of hashi life, Dont you think so? and he could make a huge forest with his wood, maybe he cover madara and the kyubi and cramble both of them down till hesqueeze them to death. last week manga revealed hash wood could created instantly,maybe madara or the kyubi couldnt keep up with his move maybe that's how he tear them both up
 

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Yeah Guys lets overrate Hashirama and Underrate Madara. Yeah you guys are right Hashirama was master of all elements and strongest shinobi and Madara was really weak. YEAH OK THATS ALL BULLSHIT. The leader of the Uchihas couldnt possibly be weak so if anything Hashirama and Madara where equal in power.

Dude you are missing the point! If tailes beast are weak against wood jutsu that mean the 9 tails aint shit! Its been said hashi could control the tails beast lik a pet!! so 9 tails aint nothing against him while fighting with madara!! Remember hashi could make this thing call the perfect clone witch madara use latest chapter. Maybe its impossible for him to get beating with that perfect clone!! Madara is useless against hasshi.Maybe the wood was the source of hashi life, Dont you think so? and he could make a huge forest with his wood, maybe he cover madara and the kyubi and cramble both of them down till hesqueeze them to death. last week manga revealed hash wood could created instantly,maybe madara or the kyubi couldnt keep up with his move maybe that's how he tear them both up
Dude you overrate him so much... Yes its easy for him to control the 9 tails BUT IT WAS ALREADY UNDER THE POWER OF MADARAS SHARINGAN!!!! It can be that easy to just take control of the 9 tails while Madara is controlling him...cmon dude..
 
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Dude you are missing the point! If tailes beast are weak against wood jutsu that mean the 9 tails aint shit! Its been said hashi could control the tails beast lik a pet!! so 9 tails aint nothing against him while fighting with madara!! Remember hashi could make this thing call the perfect clone witch madara use latest chapter. Maybe its impossible for him to get beating with that perfect clone!! Madara is useless against hasshi.Maybe the wood was the source of hashi life, Dont you think so? and he could make a huge forest with his wood, maybe he cover madara and the kyubi and cramble both of them down till hesqueeze them to death. last week manga revealed hash wood could created instantly,maybe madara or the kyubi couldnt keep up with his move maybe that's how he tear them both up
:sy: Madara said he could see through the Wood Clone, so that's not what won the fight for Hashirama, was other techniques of his.

Also just so we're clear on the Hashirama Water Release.

Tobirama was primarily known for his mastery of Water Release. He could perform powerful water-style techniques in areas that lacked bodies of water by creating his own water out of thin air, and perform some of the most complex water-style techniques, such as the Water Release: Water Dragon Bullet Technique, with a single hand seal. This amongst other reasons is why he is revered as the greatest known Water Release manipulator in the series.

Dude you overrate him so much... Yes its easy for him to control the 9 tails BUT IT WAS ALREADY UNDER THE POWER OF MADARAS SHARINGAN!!!! It can be that easy to just take control of the 9 tails while Madara is controlling him...cmon dude..
To be fair, Minato did it pretty easily against Tobi, but anyways yes I agree if Hashirama does not have that Contract Seal technique, it'd be pretty tough to do so.
 

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Yeah Guys lets overrate Hashirama and Underrate Madara. Yeah you guys are right Hashirama was master of all elements and strongest shinobi and Madara was really weak. YEAH OK THATS ALL BULLSHIT. The leader of the Uchihas couldnt possibly be weak so if anything Hashirama and Madara where equal in power.



Dude you overrate him so much... Yes its easy for him to control the 9 tails BUT IT WAS ALREADY UNDER THE POWER OF MADARAS SHARINGAN!!!! It can be that easy to just take control of the 9 tails while Madara is controlling him...cmon dude..
Dude you are still missing the point, even if he was under madara command aslong its a damn tails beast he will remain a pet against hashi!!
 

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To be fair, Minato did it pretty easily against Tobi, but anyways yes I agree if Hashirama does not have that Contract Seal technique, it'd be pretty tough to do so.
Exactly and if to that you add the fact that Madara was pressuring him while trying to take control of the 9 tails... it makes it pretty much impossible for Hashirama to seal the fox.
 

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Yeah Guys lets overrate Hashirama and Underrate Madara. Yeah you guys are right Hashirama was master of all elements and strongest shinobi and Madara was really weak. YEAH OK THATS ALL BULLSHIT. The leader of the Uchihas couldnt possibly be weak so if anything Hashirama and Madara where equal in power.



Dude you overrate him so much... Yes its easy for him to control the 9 tails BUT IT WAS ALREADY UNDER THE POWER OF MADARAS SHARINGAN!!!! It can be that easy to just take control of the 9 tails while Madara is controlling him...cmon dude..
Dude you forgot that itachi kill hes father the leader of the clan and itachi was virgen remenber
 

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Dude you forgot that itachi kill hes father the leader of the clan and itachi was virgen remenber
Wth are you talking about...that has nothing to do with this thread at all???? WTF???

Dude you are still missing the point, even if he was under madara command aslong its a damn tails beast he will remain a pet against hashi!!
That doesnt apply when the tailed beast is already under someone elses control...
 

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Let me make something cleared to you. Kabuto stated people that heard about his strength considered him as a fairy tail just like rikudou sennin . That is all i have to say. comparing his power with the sage that mean madara and 9 tails was nothing against him.
 

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Let me make something cleared to you. Kabuto stated people that heard about his strength considered him as a fairy tail just like rikudou sennin . That is all i have to say. comparing his power with the sage that mean madara and 9 tails was nothing against him.
It is stated that Madara and Hashirama where of equal strenght. Stop overrating Hashi so much...
 
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Hashirama was said to be insanely powerful, his wood release could be burned, but this is a bit beyond the point, as he would of most likely used his mokuton as a defense, like Yamato, and as long as this withstands the initial blast it does its job, and when using it offensively the aim (I believe) is to either restrict movement, (no chance for hand seals) or things like flower world (real name escapes me) in which its effect would not be stopped by fire. As well as just mokuton, Hasirama also used water (water+ground = wood) so he probably would have been able to counter Madara's firejutsu. Along with all these his supreme healing abilities and huge chakra pool may of helped. This is all I can say, as we have not actually seen him fight
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It is stated that Madara and Hashirama where of equal strenght. Stop overrating Hashi so much...
Dude i am not over powering him. Even madara said people call him the strongest. What part of this do you understand! last few chapter he praised him so much! Here's something that will wake u up. His power was ****ing beast at the end of the fight madara stole his potion DNA,watever u call it
 

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It is stated that Madara and Hashirama where of equal strenght. Stop overrating Hashi so much...
hashirama has wood techniques with speed capable of blocking sasukes susanoo arrow (danzo vs sasuke)....
hashirama has strong water techniques and earth techniques....
hashirama has bringer of darkness tech(genjutsu)...
hashirama has wood clone that fooled the five kages making them seal a wood clone....
hashirama has flower world which makes the opponent faint with one sniff.....
hashirama's wood controls tailed beasts(kyuubi) using yamato's style.....
hashirama could heal himself without seals... that means if madara cut him, it heals immediately after......
hashirama has one of the largest chakra in the naruto series.....
Basically if madara used amaterasu, hashirama can evade using his wood substitution and madara will think he got hashirama just like how edo madara fooled the five kage..... but madara confessed that only his eyes could see through it so i guess the battle came down to who had more chakra..... :shrug:
 
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Yes but he is known for his expert wood usage! Madara can easily cancel his strongest techs with a simple fore tech.
Eh, Fire doesn't beat wood. Wood burns slowly, wildfires don't burn for a few seconds. So all that Madara succeeds in doing is getting poked by flaming wooden trees rather than just normal wooden trees.
 

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Ameratasu>Water+Wood+Earth so I don't see how Hashirama could have won either

I'm also guessing Plot no Jutsu
Sasuke use his amaterasu against the reikage did he died? No he ****in dodge it!! Hashi was probably to fast to hit by madara amaterasu! And if amaterasu was crazy why can madara knock the 5 kage out with that crap right now, instead, his using hashi justsu he know how amazing and godly hashi jutsu are! Get!?!?!
 

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Sasuke use his amaterasu against the reikage did he died? No he ****in dodge it!! Hashi was probably to fast to hit by madara amaterasu! And if amaterasu was crazy why can madara knock the 5 kage out with that crap right now, instead, his using hashi justsu he know how amazing and godly hashi jutsu are! Get!?!?!
Dude shut up before you sound any dumber. 1st of all Raikage lost one of his hands to amateratsu second of all Madara is just playing around with Kages hes not going full strenghts just testing his new abilities.
 

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Sasuke use his amaterasu against the reikage did he died? No he ****in dodge it!! Hashi was probably to fast to hit by madara amaterasu! And if amaterasu was crazy why can madara knock the 5 kage out with that crap right now, instead, his using hashi justsu he know how amazing and godly hashi jutsu are! Get!?!?!
I don't remember Hashi having a speed feat but ok. Also I was referring to the forest not Hashi himself. And Gaara + A would be enough to block any Ameratasu aimed at the Kages via speed and sand.
 

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I mean if you think about it Hashirama is known for his powerful wood techs.
Okay now what is the number one enemy of TREES??? FIRE. What burns down a forest in seconds??? FIRE. Isnt Madara one of the strongest Uchiha + he had the 9 tails on his side...what ever happened to just spamming fire techs all day and burning down Hashirama..I mean I dont get how with a matchup like this Madara coulve lost.

I mean...Madara has Fire release...!!!!

I get what you mean, I really do.
But here's my thought the 1st hokage was able to create a forest and place madara in the middle, madara is not going to burn every tree wood because if he does, his putting himself at risk.... Why?
1) Wood doesn't burn that quick.
2) Madara would be surrounding himself with fire ( which is bad )
3) Smoke well make the breathing and seeing very hard ( even with EMS )
4) Madara won't waste chakra on something like that, instad he well focus his strangth and chakra to kill/trap the 1st
5) 1st is master of wood, so really how many tree's you ganna burn :sy: to much wood man!!!

I would hate to fight someone like that if i was a character in naruto xd
Plus it's not like it's the only thing the 1st has.
 
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