Tales of a Gutsy Ninja

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No, this thread is'nt about Naruto, its about..............Itachi.


When it comes to guts, no one has more. You don't massacre the Uchiha, take all the blame yourself, then double cross Tobi while being a part of the Akatsuki w/o some serious balls(Kabuto was'nt man enough to do it).

I feel that after everything that's been revealed, he was an unsung hero, probably the 2nd biggest one of the series.


Despite the Akatsuki having such a powerhouse as Nagato in their ranks, Tobi was forced to lay off Konoha as long as Itachi was alive. There were no questions asked. Makes you wonder whether this man is capable of even more than what we've been shown thus far. And this is where this thread starts.


Now the reason i bring this up is the predicament of the current manga. Itachi has confronted Kabuto. Let's do a time travel here:

When downing Orochimaru, who is Kabuto's role model Itachi trapped him in genjutsu:

'What a great eye power. Its splendid'. This was the point from where Orochimaru became obsessed with the sharingan, and the need to have a sharingan heir as his host body, thus making him target Sasuke. This obsession with Sasuke has been inherited by Kabuto as well.

Itachi's statement is important here:

Orochimaru, all your jutsus are ineffective in front of these eyes.

Now, what has Kabuto done exactly? Surpass Orochimaru by improving all his jutsus and taking them to another level. Like Edo Tensei, or an improved Manda,etc. But regardless, they're still just Orochimaru's jutsus and as Itachi said all of those are ineffective in front of his eyes.

This view point gets reinforced when we see Oro/Kabuto's edo tensei jutsu overcome by Itachi here:

Kabuto was completely shocked by Itachi's technique.And then:
"he's clearly on another level to the others". Now, its important to note here that Kabuto did'nt know about Naruto and Itachi's meeting, so he is overwhelmed by what he sees as Itachi's power.

And just now:
Itachi saw through his Kekkai, thus leading him to Kabuto
Once again proving that Itachi's eyes>Kabuto/Oro's jutsus.
So in conclusion, there is no need to fear for a man who is an unrivaled giant in the Narutoverse. He'll turn to dust after taking out the Edo Tensei, he will not fail, leaving the show like he came into it, like a boss.


EDIT: the prediction is Kabuto won't beat him, despite the laugh, that is to say that the Edo Tenseis and Madara and Itachi will both turn to dust, leaving Sasuke to probly go fight Naruto.
 
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Umh.... You fail Itachi is no unrivaled Giant and he will not defeat Kabuto.
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Fail trolls smh. Lol at you kids here, when i said he'd lose to Minato, these guys are labeling me an itachi hater and now its the other way around lol. And this is one of the few times i've ever spoken in favor of this character. Its about the current manga, geniuses not some character

EDIT: Ignore the sentimentality of the thread, the idea is that Edo tensei is going to stop, so don't be a noob
 
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No, this thread is'nt about Naruto, its about..............Itachi.


When it comes to guts, no one has more. You don't massacre the Uchiha, take all the blame yourself, then double cross Tobi while being a part of the Akatsuki w/o some serious balls(Kabuto was'nt man enough to do it).

I feel that after everything that's been revealed, he was an unsung hero, probably the 2nd biggest one of the series.


Despite the Akatsuki having such a powerhouse as Nagato in their ranks, Tobi was forced to lay off Konoha as long as Itachi was alive. There were no questions asked. Makes you wonder whether this man is capable of even more than what we've been shown thus far. And this is where this thread starts.


Now the reason i bring this up is the predicament of the current manga. Itachi has confronted Kabuto. Let's do a time travel here:

When downing Orochimaru, who is Kabuto's role model Itachi trapped him in genjutsu:

'What a great eye power. Its splendid'. This was the point from where Orochimaru became obsessed with the sharingan, and the need to have a sharingan heir as his host body, thus making him target Sasuke. This obsession with Sasuke has been inherited by Kabuto as well.

Itachi's statement is important here:

Orochimaru, all your jutsus are ineffective in front of these eyes.

Now, what has Kabuto done exactly? Surpass Orochimaru by improving all his jutsus and taking them to another level. Like Edo Tensei, or an improved Manda,etc. But regardless, they're still just Orochimaru's jutsus and as Itachi said all of those are ineffective in front of his eyes.

This view point gets reinforced when we see Oro/Kabuto's edo tensei jutsu overcome by Itachi here:

Kabuto was completely shocked by Itachi's technique.And then:
"he's clearly on another level to the others". Now, its important to note here that Kabuto did'nt know about Naruto and Itachi's meeting, so he is overwhelmed by what he sees as Itachi's power.

And just now:
Itachi saw through his Kekkai, thus leading him to Kabuto
Once again proving that Itachi's eyes>Kabuto/Oro's jutsus.
So in conclusion, there is no need to fear for a man who is an unrivaled giant in the Narutoverse. He'll turn to dust after taking out the Edo Tensei, he will not fail, leaving the show like he came into it, like a boss.
It takes no guts to kill someone, it takes guts to stop one self from killing someone.
 

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It takes no guts to kill someone, it takes guts to stop one self from killing someone.
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You completely missed the context there. And if you failed to notice, Itachi was responsible for konoha's destruction by Pain to be delayed and technically he could have killed Kakashi .Anyway...

Do you agree that Kabuto will lose and the Edo tensei will end? Despite what it may seem like, this is'nt a character parade. Its answering this simple question .
 

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I honestly don't think Itachi is the gutsiest ninja out there. I think what drove him to carry out the mission of the Uchiha massacre was logic, determination, and emotion, the combination of which is similar to guts, but distinct. It may have included guts as well; I'm not a Narutoverse psychologist, so I'm not going to exclude it based on what I'm thinking right now, lol. Jiriaya, Minato, Naruto, and Nagato are the gutsiest ninja of the series in my mind, and there seems to be a correlation with peace by protection and love with that as opposed to peace by force, which is what the Uchiha massacre was. That doesn't mean that Itachi doesn't have guts or a significant amount, but I'm not going to rank him up there at the top either. We've seen eye to eye on a number of issues, but I think on this we're going to have to disagree.

I think that there's also something illogical and intuitive about gutsy thinking (e.g. Naruto jumping into the toad oil well to expedite sage mode training, which was insane. That was guts and something Itachi would never do because it was insane and illogical.), whereas Itachi is one of the most logical thinkers in the Narutoverse. Itachi thinks everything out and calmly plans his thoughts and actions in advance based on logic, albeit sometimes his emotions do intervene - see Uchiha Sasuke for that, lol. xd

Note: I think you read that line about Itachi seeing through Kabuto's Kekkai too literally. Itachi said he could sense the origin of the chakra while he was under Kabuto's control, but I don't think it had anything/everything to do with his doujutsu, so I don't think you can reach the conclusion that:
Once again proving that Itachi's eyes>Kabuto/Oro's jutsus.
Regarding the outcome with Kabuto. Sasuke may have just made things a whole hell of a lot more complicated as he may not know the consequences of Impure World Resurrection (IWR) and killing Kabuto, nor do I believe that he's back to thinking clearly (i.e. out of the darkness), which is why I think Itachi said, "jeez" at the end of the chapter. Further, I'm not sure if he knows that Kabuto is after him, or if he gained that intel from Tsukiyomi'ing the White Zetsu.

I don't have a problem with Itachi ending the IWR, but I do with the timing if it means stopping the 5 Kages from having their moment against ET Madara. Kishi's been building this up now for some chapters, and for the 5 Kages to go through all that they've gone through just to have ET Madara crumble to dust thanks to ET Itachi is pretty weak and undermining of their characters in my opinion. I'd feel the same way if for some reason Naruto or anyone else intervened on their behalf. ET Madara is the 5 Kages' fight, no one else really has a right to interfere (again my opinion). Thus, if Itachi ends IWR after the ET Madara vs. 5 Kages fight, that's fine because then there's really just 1/2 Muu, and a contained Dan, amongst others. This is fully possible given that he's got to fight Kabuto who's likely not going to drop after 1 chapter, lol. Further, Itachi needs to return to the pure world where he belongs, so he needs to end IWR.

However, I don't think Kabuto is going to go down so easily, and I do wonder what tricks he has up his sleeve other than "that jutsu." I don't believe he told Tobi everything about IWR. I'm not sure if he know's about Itachi's sealing Sword of Totsuka from watching ET Nagato, or what ET's he might have on hand, etc. Is Sasuke going to be a benefit, a distraction, or both? There's a lot of unknown variables; thus, it's too early for me to commit to anything too strongly since the fight hasn't even started, lol. :)

I wonder what Kishi has planned for Kabuto, which is a key variable in the outcome. If Kishi has big future plans for him that will affect this battle obviously. Will he retreat, be smoked, draw, or even win? IWR has to end, so that could happen and Kabuto could still live/win, but I think it depends on what kind of future plans Kishi has for Kabuto. I don't know pretend to know the outcome, but it will be interesting to see what happens when an ET master MS user and a powerful new EMS user confront Kabuto in his home base, where he's likely been waiting for Itachi anyway. We'll see... :)

Peace
 
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