Kisamez>>>>Mei Terumi
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this thread is pretty based...we've seen a shyt load of kisame, and not even a backstory of mei. this thread was designed for ppl to automatically take kisame's side. therefore, it doesn't even deserve a debate because no logical one can be made...
You people are comparing Roshi to Mei? How the hell do you even know what level Roshi even was? Are you saying Roshi was equivalent to Kage level?
Just because Roshi was a Jinchuuriki does not mean he was on Mei's level. None of you have any idea how much control Roshi had over his Bijuu. The only Jinchuuriki who were able to completely control their Bijuu were Bee, Yagura, and now Naruto. Just because Roshi was a Jinchuuriki does not automatically make him some top baller. Nor do any of you know to what proficiency he had with his Lava Release.
Your entire basis in comparing Roshi's Lava to Mei's Lava is flawed because there is no support or fact that shows how good Roshi was at using it. They are not comparable. This is absurdly horrible logic.
It's like comparing Yamato's Mokuton to Hashirama's Mokuton. Just because they used the same Kekkei Genkai does not mean they are comparable.
Just because Roshi was a Jinchuuriki does not mean he was on Mei's level. None of you have any idea how much control Roshi had over his Bijuu. The only Jinchuuriki who were able to completely control their Bijuu were Bee, Yagura, and now Naruto. Just because Roshi was a Jinchuuriki does not automatically make him some top baller. Nor do any of you know to what proficiency he had with his Lava Release.
Your entire basis in comparing Roshi's Lava to Mei's Lava is flawed because there is no support or fact that shows how good Roshi was at using it. They are not comparable. This is absurdly horrible logic.
It's like comparing Yamato's Mokuton to Hashirama's Mokuton. Just because they used the same Kekkei Genkai does not mean they are comparable.
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Mei terumi has no chance... Giant Shark eating chakra
Kisame already beat two jinjuriiki, Killerbee and Roshi
please explain how can she beat Kisame? just because she is a kage doesnt mean she is stronger than a jinjuriki?
Kisame already beat two jinjuriiki, Killerbee and Roshi
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Tell me, what level is a "Jinchuuriki" exactly? It's not a rank, it's not a position, and it's not a title. It's a noun. Even a child is called a Jinchuuriki if they are host to a Bijuu. All it means is that you're a host. That's all.
Among the Jinchuuriki there are formidable shinobi like Bee and Naruto, but that does not mean that all Jinchuuriki are that powerful in general. What you and several people are doing is comparing Roshi to the likes of Bee and Naruto just because he's "another Jinchuuriki". The fact that Kisame beat Roshi tells us absolutely nothing in terms of how he'd fare against Mei. Like I said, we know absolutely nothing of Roshi's powers. We don't know how adept he was in Lava Release nor do we know what extent of control he had over the Yonbi.
So Kisame wins automatically because of his Great Shark Bullet? That's wrong. Kisame cannot use the technique (or his other major Suiton techniques for that matter) unless he's around a very large body of water. It's common knowledge that high-level Water Techniques require the user to be around a large body of water. He was only able to use his Giant Shark Missile (and his 1000 Sharks) against Gai because they were on the Turtle Island which is...in the middle of the OCEAN. Even if Kisame creates his lake it's nothing like an ocean. The more access to water you have, the more stronger your water techniques become.
Long story short, every single one of Kisame's offensive ninjutsu are Water-based. This means, aside from his kenjutsu, his ninjutsu style is largely dependent on the terrain where the battle takes place.
Mei on the other hand isn't limited to fighting around large bodies of water. She has three elements - Fire, Water, and Earth (Plus her KGs Lava and Acid). This alone gives her extreme flexibility with ninjutsu usage.
It's also a fact that Earth has an elemental advantage over Water.
Something that everyone seems to be conveniently forgetting...
Now you may bring up Kisame's fusion with Samehada. Bee had no idea Kisame could even do this which means he had no possible way of foreseeing it or preventing it. Mei, on the other hand, being the Mizukage would be aware of this the moment the battle begins. Even Chojuro knew this because he's a member of the 7 Swordsman. No Kage who has intel on Kisame's fusion with Samehada would let it happen. Every single Kage has the ability to see into a situation and make assessments. That's largely a what a Kage does as head of their respective villages - they are no fools.
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So you are basing on ranks, then if that is your logic then
kurenai can beat naruto because naruto is still a chunin. right?
Its not just an ordinary jutsu. LMAO! This technique differs from the original in that it is able to absorb the chakra from an opponent's technique and in turn, use that chakra to grow larger and more powerful. Therefore, the stronger the opponent's technique is, the stronger this technique will get.
You said a large amount of water? No problem for Kisame, he summon a huge amount of water. He increases his field advantage even further by creating a giant dome of water around himself, forcing his opponents to battle him underwater.
So stop being a fan girl! Mei is currently the weakest kage. She has no chance against Killerbee and Roshi
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You didn't read my post at all did you?
I said comparing Roshi to Bee or Naruto is flawed because we haven't even seen what Roshi can do. Being a Jinchuuriki doesn't automatically bring you onto their level. I'm not going to re-type what I clearly said in my last post.
I didn't say it was an ordinary jutsu. Please don't put words in my mouth.
Again, it appears you didn't read my post. I said Kisame was only able to use it in the first place because he was in an ocean. Like I already said, it's common knowledge that Water techniques are largely dependent on being around large bodies of water. Are you personifying this one technique as the representation of Kisame's strength? Cause if you are then you need to go and fix that skewed logic. Kisame's Giant Shark Bullet will not be used to win all of his battles. It's like Konan's 600 billion explosives. It's a technique that can only be used occasionally at best. Kisame isn't always going to be surrounded by an ocean to be able to use the technique.
I already pointed out he can create a lake. But a lake is nothing compared to the vast sea. I would think this is obvious but apparently not...
Are you saying Kisame would be able to use his Giant Shark Bullet in a lake that he creates? You saw the sheer size of his Giant Shark Bullet. Nothing smaller than an ocean would be able to house it. Again, this is common sense.
*sigh* Again, Kisame can only create his dome of water after he's fused with Samehada. Mei won't let him fuse in the first place. Like everything else above, I've already said this.
I never said Mei could beat Bee. Again, don't put words in my mouth
I didn't base anything on ranks.
I said comparing Roshi to Bee or Naruto is flawed because we haven't even seen what Roshi can do. Being a Jinchuuriki doesn't automatically bring you onto their level. I'm not going to re-type what I clearly said in my last post.
I know what his Giant Shark Bullet is. I didn't ask for a description of the technique so I don't even know why you said this.
I didn't say it was an ordinary jutsu. Please don't put words in my mouth.
Again, it appears you didn't read my post. I said Kisame was only able to use it in the first place because he was in an ocean. Like I already said, it's common knowledge that Water techniques are largely dependent on being around large bodies of water. Are you personifying this one technique as the representation of Kisame's strength? Cause if you are then you need to go and fix that skewed logic. Kisame's Giant Shark Bullet will not be used to win all of his battles. It's like Konan's 600 billion explosives. It's a technique that can only be used occasionally at best. Kisame isn't always going to be surrounded by an ocean to be able to use the technique.
You really really didn't read my post.
I already pointed out he can create a lake. But a lake is nothing compared to the vast sea. I would think this is obvious but apparently not...
Are you saying Kisame would be able to use his Giant Shark Bullet in a lake that he creates? You saw the sheer size of his Giant Shark Bullet. Nothing smaller than an ocean would be able to house it. Again, this is common sense.
*sigh* Again, Kisame can only create his dome of water after he's fused with Samehada. Mei won't let him fuse in the first place. Like everything else above, I've already said this.
I'm being a fan girl? Explain how so. Every single thing I've said is derived directly from the manga. I'm providing facts and reason while you've said nothing I haven't already addressed in my last post.
I never said Mei could beat Bee. Again, don't put words in my mouth
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