It's fairly certain that Tobi is not a previously mentioned Character. Rebuttal?

[IamMe]

Izuna's death was far from honorable (if he actually died), at the time the whole clan was disgusted with the act that they exiled madara from the village. To him the sacrifice of his eyes was meant to solidify the uchiha's power in the village, but the opposite happened instead it got his brother kicked out. It was here that I figure Izuna changed his opinion of the village and his clan to let such a thing to occur. A sacrifice of brothers for their people just to become subserviant to the senju's (brothers thoughts). Also if Izuna did in fact survive he would know that, the seal of the kyuubi weakened at child birth from living through the first hokage wifes fiasco. Also to me minato saying that when they fought brought back memories of madara (paraphrasing), just seemed to hint at this. This is why I figure it to be Izuna, just my opinion

 

[SAGEPATH]

Itachi said he got his eyes taken from him. So again how is this honorable

So you are saying if your brother took your eyes from you and you after that you still went to the battlefield and put up a good fight and died for your clan because all you want to do is for your people to live on is not a honorable death

 

[WZRD]

Maybe true. Also it seems like you like CuDi's new album.

Brah it's the only thing I'm listening to.

 

[SAGEPATH]

AND again read izunas profile this is what it says Eighty years prior to the start of the series, Izuna and his older brother Madara were said to be equals as the most gifted members of the Uchiha clan. They usually competed with each other every day in order to get stronger. Both awakened their Sharingan early in life, and they became the first Uchiha to awaken the Mangekyō Sharingan. Madara used the power of his Mangekyō Sharingan to take control of the clan, with Izuna at his side. When Madara eventually went blind, he took Izuna's eyes to regain his sight. Itachi Uchiha suggested that his eyes had been taken by force; however, Tobi insisted that Izuna had willingly given up his eyes for the good of his brother and the whole clan, seeing that Madara needed to remain strong to protect the clan from its growing number of enemies. Izuna later died honourably in battle, fighting to the death even in his blind state.

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[-Broly-]

I have no clue how u think anyone can put up a good fight with no eyes secondly I'm pretty sure he was forced to fight who in their right mind would willingly fight with no eyes

 

[-Broly-]

AND again read izunas profile this is what it says Eighty years prior to the start of the series, Izuna and his older brother Madara were said to be equals as the most gifted members of the Uchiha clan. They usually competed with each other every day in order to get stronger. Both awakened their Sharingan early in life, and they became the first Uchiha to awaken the Mangekyō Sharingan. Madara used the power of his Mangekyō Sharingan to take control of the clan, with Izuna at his side. When Madara eventually went blind, he took Izuna's eyes to regain his sight. Itachi Uchiha suggested that his eyes had been taken by force; however, Tobi insisted that Izuna had willingly given up his eyes for the good of his brother and the whole clan, seeing that Madara needed to remain strong to protect the clan from its growing number of enemies. Izuna later died honourably in battle, fighting to the death even in his blind state.

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Lol who said he died an honorable death? Tobi yeah a very trustworthy person

 

[SAGEPATH]

I have no clue how u think anyone can put up a good fight with no eyes secondly I'm pretty sure he was forced to fight who in their right mind would willingly fight with no eyes

:sy::sy::syid you just read his profile?

 

[-Broly-]

:sy::sy::syid you just read his profile?

Tobi said he died an honorable death and everyone knows that we can put our trust in tobi

 

[IamMe]

How would tobi know that izuna willingly gave his eyes, unless he was him. No one knew that fact, the rest of the clan claimed it was by force and that was the story passed the following generations. Also it had stated madara died in battle too, but we know that to be false now as well

 

[SAGEPATH]

Tobi said he died an honorable death and everyone knows that we can put our trust in tobi

Who told sasuke the truth about itachi ? :shrug:

 

[Varada]

Brah it's the only thing I'm listening to.

Hahaa. I personally like efflictim.

 

[-Broly-]

Who told sasuke the truth about itachi ? :shrug:

Who told us he was madara who told us he didn't attack the village who blackmailed Sasuke into joining aka taiko who manipulated nagato to do his bidding who took control of the 4th mizukage? Need I go on

 

[Varada]

Izuna's death was far from honorable (if he actually died), at the time the whole clan was disgusted with the act that they exiled madara from the village. To him the sacrifice of his eyes was meant to solidify the uchiha's power in the village, but the opposite happened instead it got his brother kicked out. It was here that I figure Izuna changed his opinion of the village and his clan to let such a thing to occur. A sacrifice of brothers for their people just to become subserviant to the senju's (brothers thoughts). Also if Izuna did in fact survive he would know that, the seal of the kyuubi weakened at child birth from living through the first hokage wifes fiasco. Also to me minato saying that when they fought brought back memories of madara (paraphrasing), just seemed to hint at this. This is why I figure it to be Izuna, just my opinion

This is an idea, Kishimoto would use.

 

[IamMe]

On an irrelevant person, I saw an interesting theory saying sasuke's dad might be tobi. Don't remember the thread, but it was a new take on this discussion.

 

[WZRD]

Hahaa. I personally like efflictim.

THATS MY FAVE. but I gotta say, I'm more hyped for Man on the moon three

 

[WZRD]

On an irrelevant person, I saw an interesting theory saying sasuke's dad might be tobi. Don't remember the thread, but it was a new take on this discussion.

Didn't sasuke see his dad dead on the floor? Not that it was real, possibly just a dummy body like kabuto used to use. That is an interesting idea...

 

[Varada]

THATS MY FAVE. but I gotta say, I'm more hyped for Man on the moon three

Yea, Common is supposed to come back and narrate. I hope he takes his time with it though, the Legend of Mr.Rager seemed rushed...but then again those were his darker days.

 

[WZRD]

Yea, Common is supposed to come back and narrate. I hope he takes his time with it though, the Legend of Mr.Rager seemed rushed...but then again those were his darker days.

Yeah MOTM 1 had so many fantastic songs, while 2 had a couple gems but were way darker and sad. Cudder's in a good place now in his life now, I think anyway, so 3 oughta take a shit on everything in the genre currently.

 

[Varada]

Yeah MOTM 1 had so many fantastic songs, while 2 had a couple gems but were way darker and sad. Cudder's in a good place now in his life now, I think anyway, so 3 oughta take a shit on everything in the genre currently.

Yep, precisely. He sure went into a "Upper Room". I read somewhere that he plans on dividing the acts with orchestra from Thomas Bergersen. If so then the game will never reached Cudi's level.

 

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