Itachi vs. Kakashi (without sharingan)

[Rovian]

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I call that an Adrenaline rush, not a gate.. lol.

 

[BloodSeed]

k i understand. But if he is so tough why does he tire easily after using sharingan while a true uchiha doesn't. Thats bcuz kakashi doesn't have an uchiha body.

That was stated in the manga against kakashis first time confrontation against itachi

And to be able to do copied techqs u hv to activate ur sharingan

uchiha also get tired easily after few mangekyou sharingan tech. kakashi takes a toll much more because he dont have uchiha blood but that proves him to be more genius dispite of that toll he still manages to use and copy jutsu than any uchiha who takes less toll from the sharingan. bye for now im gonna sleep

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

k i understand. But if he is so tough why does he tire easily after using sharingan while a true uchiha doesn't. Thats bcuz kakashi doesn't have an uchiha body.

That was stated in the manga against kakashis first time confrontation against itachi

And to be able to do copied techqs u hv to activate ur sharingan

Read this

He probably could. Sasuke could do it, Kakashi could do it, why not Itachi? And anyways, Kakashi doesn't really "copy" jutsus, he is able to read the signs and understand the technique just by looking at it, due to Sharingan's enhanced vision. And then Kakashi is able to do the jutsu too. I'm pretty sure anyone with a Sharingan could do this.

Let me add something. The Sharingan is used just to READ how to do the move. Kakashi does not need the Sharingan to use the move he copied. He's not gonna suddenly forget how to do the move.

 

[Shamami]

Kakashi has other derivations of Chidori that he can use. He can also use Earth and Water techniques, but not the way he can with Lightning.

true. Just in case u didnt read it. u were right about rasengan. I was convinced tht it was wind but it wasn't. only raseshuriken, so thnx bro

 

[Brucewen001]

Kakashi takes this with high difficulty...

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

true. Just in case u didnt read it. u were right about rasengan. I was convinced tht it was wind but it wasn't. only raseshuriken, so thnx bro

I did. And if you are uncertain about something from Naruto and you don't want to read it, check out Narutopedia. It's 90% reliable, if not all.

 

[Shamami]

Read this



Let me add something. The Sharingan is used just to READ how to do the move. Kakashi does not need the Sharingan to use the move he copied. He's not gonna suddenly forget how to do the move.

K but then why he activates his sharingan while doing a move he copied. Example against kisame water dragon tech.

Well.....he copied over 1000 jutsus so im pretty sure tht if he doesnt hv the sharingan he wud not be able to memorize all of them

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

K but then why he activates his sharingan while doing a move he copied. Example against kisame water dragon tech.

Well.....he copied over 1000 jutsus so im pretty sure tht if he doesnt hv the sharingan he wud not be able to memorize all of them

One, this is Kisame. Of the Akatsuki. And was one of the Legendary Seven Swordsman. If I was Kakashi, I'd be definitely putting on some Sharingan.
Two, he was considered a genius. I am damn sure he is capable of remembering 1000 jutsus.

 

[Shamami]

One, this is Kisame. Of the Akatsuki. And was one of the Legendary Seven Swordsman. If I was Kakashi, I'd be definitely putting on some Sharingan.
Two, he was considered a genius. I am damn sure he is capable of remembering 1000 jutsus.

You and I r talking about the same point but analyzing it differently.

You r talking about the sharingan interms of READING moves.

I am talking about the sharingan to COPYING moves.

But isnt it a bit of both?

 

[Splendid Ninja]

I don't know what these people are smoking lmao,
According to databooks, itachi is faster , tied in taijutsu, strength etc...

And the key winner of this fight is his genjutsu.... which he obviously still has without his sharingan .... >>>>>>>>>

And id love to see how easy kakashi will get out of them with out sharingan to aid and help him see through them

this :scorps:

lol everyone is blinded and thinks that itachi hasn any talents besides his sharingan but believe me he has.

 

[Splendid Ninja]

I don't know what these people are smoking lmao,
According to databooks, itachi is faster , tied in taijutsu, strength etc...

And the key winner of this fight is his genjutsu.... which he obviously still has without his sharingan .... >>>>>>>>>

And id love to see how easy kakashi will get out of them with out sharingan to aid and help him see through them

this :scorps:

if you just think fairly you should know that itachi without his sharingan will shit on kakashi everytime.

 

[Splendid Ninja]

im looking at the poll and to my surprise i can count the idiots :rofl:

you forgot yourself i think xd

 

[DeViliShChild]

That's not true I posted a link showing that the totsuka blade and yata mirrorare just weapons he equipped to susanoo but if you don't believe me google yata mirror and you'll.see there just weapons

Seriously post the link where it says anything about anyone else ever having them. Itachi had them even after death

 

[Uchiaofthemist]

Kakashi why because he doesnt need the sharingan to do the chidori he did it before he got the sharingan. The only reason itachi and kakashi are good at jutsus tai jutsu and all that is because the sharingan can read peoples moves and copy it. so Itachis not that strong without a sharingan maybe a fire ball jutsu at best but thats the uchias sig move.

 

[Shamami]

One, this is Kisame. Of the Akatsuki. And was one of the Legendary Seven Swordsman. If I was Kakashi, I'd be definitely putting on some Sharingan.
Two, he was considered a genius. I am damn sure he is capable of remembering 1000 jutsus.

Just in case if u misunderstood me, I knw tht against kisame kakashi should obv hv his sharingan activated,


What I am not so positive about right now is whether he COPIED the tech previously from zabuza and had a photographic memory image of how he did it with zabuza and then carried out the water dragon tech.

Or, did he READ kisame's tech beforehand by looking at his handseals movement and anticipating the same tech ending up doing the same tech?

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

You and I r talking about the same point but analyzing it differently.

You r talking about the sharingan interms of READING moves.

I am talking about the sharingan to COPYING moves.

But isnt it a bit of both?

That is how the Sharingan works. Quote for quote from Narutopedia, "The Sharingan's third and most well-known ability is that it grants the user the ability to memorize almost any technique he or she witnesses, apart from other kekkei genkai techniques. The user can memorize ninjutsu, genjutsu, or taijutsu with near perfect accuracy, allowing the user to use the techniques as their own."

 

[Minato4hokage]

kakashi is strong because of his sharingan
he copied 1000 techquines bc of he has sharingan

i dont know how strong itachi would be without sharingan

 

[Shamami]

Just in case if u misunderstood me, I knw tht against kisame kakashi should obv hv his sharingan activated,


What I am not so positive about right now is whether he COPIED the tech previously from zabuza and had a photographic memory image of how he did it with zabuza and then carried out the water dragon tech.

Or, did he READ kisame's tech beforehand by looking at his handseals movement and anticipating the same tech ending up doing the same tech?

I confused myself when ive already knw the answer.

Lol iam replying to myself

 

[Vexorian]

You all do realize itachi still has all his genjutsu except tsukyomi etc? and can cast them with handseals?

Kakashi has shown many times to be proficient in Genjutsu, no argument there because we don't know who would win and could only assume.

 

[EliteKakashi]

Kakashi has shown many times to be proficient in Genjutsu, no argument there because we don't know who would win and could only assume.

When has Kakashi shown to be more than proficient in genjutsu? I don't think he'd fall for any finger genjutsu or any crap cast by Itachi, but he has no real genjutsu feats.

No, knocking out ANBU with it is not a feat. Why is knocking out ANBU not a feat? Because this ANBU leader, and another top-flight ANBU member went after Kidomaru and got absolutely OWNED by him after they tried to go after Orochimaru. Remember, these are the same ANBU members trusted with protecting the Hokage.

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Later on, when Kidomaru was with Sakon&Ukon, Tayuya and Jirobo, they feel the need to ALL go cursed seal level 2 to fight Genma and Raido(I don't have the manga page, don't feel like looking for it, but here is the description from Narutopedia)

When Tsunade returns to the village, Genma and Aoba are assigned to announce her inauguration as the Fifth Hokage. He is later sent on a mission with Raidō Namiashi, Iwashi Tatami and Shizune. As they return home after completing the mission Genma and Raidō encounter the Sound Four. He inquires about what they were carrying since they were coming from the direction of Konoha. In retaliation Sakon throws a kunai at him but Genma deflects it with his senbon. In order to defeat Raidō and Genma, the Sound Four activate level two of their cursed seals, leaving Genma and Raidō gravely injured and in serious need of medical attention. Shizune stabilises their conditions and takes them back to Konoha for further treatment.

Yeah, the ANBU is a joke.

Edit: Narutopedia had it as a reference on Raido's page, so I found it -

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