Itachi vs. Kakashi (without sharingan)
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could kakashi own a sannin like itachi did at age 13.
when it comes to talent and intelligence there is no character that can match itachi in the same age.
I mean lets not debate a sannin and a jounin or shall we XD?
what the ****??? can you read the topic? no sharingan? can itachi own a sannin without his eyes???? you should go home and ask your mom why they made you such an idiot!!!!
hokutoshinken
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You should reread the manga .Sharingan can't copy elements , you have to have the affinity to copy a jutsu.For exemple Kakashi can't copy Wind and Katons jutsu because he doesn't have these affinity.
Kakashi has 3 elements even without sharingan he still have some jutsus except the one he copied from Zabuza,he's largelly above Itachi because Itachi has just 2 Katon jutsu and 1 Suiton jutsu.
Suiton > Katon
Doton > Suiton
Suiton > Raiton (see Daui vs Suigetsu)
Your first mistake he can use Katon because he used it against sakura and naruto in their training.
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Did he mention anywhere that there are jutsu that can´t be copied ?
oohhh waiiiit noooo. Counter any kind of tech. So what ?
So maybe u should reread the manga.
I wish tht u r trolling
Ill be surprized if u can prove me wrong. Cuz it clearly states in the manga tht rasengan is wind element, and according to urself kakashi can't copy wind jutsus.
You fail big time :scorps:
Thewhiteflash
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You’ll notice that every Itachi eye technique was presented in the japanese mythology, and all these items originally belonged to Susanoo.. the legendry barrel item was none of which one of these items, so that explains why the barrel item was not shown as a spiritual item in Naruto, also.. the barrel is not actually an item which can be used as an offensive weapon, it’s just a barrel to seal the Jinchuuriki's, so obviously it should have a physical looking shape.
EliteKakashi
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I agree with you on a lot of things, Blaze..but that right there..just no...
None of Itachi's "finger" genjutsu's are going to work on Kakashi. If Kakashi found a way to counter Tsukyomi, I'm sure he has ways to get out of a simple genjutsu, on the rare chance he'd ever get caught in something like that.
Giving both sharingan is obviously Itachi >>>>>> Kakashi. Both without, the gap decreases a good amount, but Itachi still has the advantage, but giving Kakashi the sharingan gives him a huge advantage over sharingan-less Itachi.
This current Kakashi, with his massive stamina improvement has established him as a kage level ninja. This isn't Kakashi of part 1 or Kakashi at the start of shippuden, who I'd argue wasn't even konoha's best jounin(I actually argue that Gai and Asuma both were > than Kakashi in part 1, and Gai was still better at the start of Shippuden). Those 2 versions of Kakashi are nothing compared to the current one.
dude naruto only know how to use wind element jutsus. And kakashi also stated tht naruto has the advantage of rasengan against sasukes chidori due to rasengan being wind element which has the advantage against lightning
what the pak go read another manga or look for ben 10!dude naruto only know how to use wind element jutsus. And kakashi also stated tht naruto has the advantage of rasengan against sasukes chidori due to rasengan being wind element which has the advantage against lightning
what part in that scan did you not understand???? :rofl:
Blaze Release
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You are the only worth while person here who i actually take seriously in this thread therefore for you ill burn some time. Ive to go eat first xd, but when i come back youll see why i believe without the sharigan itachi is still the superior opponent. For now ill leave you with this, the only thing kakashi has over itachi is ninjutsu and stamina and in both cases its debatable.
First of all without the shairgan kakashi obviously wouldnt have learnt the 1000 jutsu's he has, if we take the sharigan away you could argue that since its that, that allowed him to learn this jutsu's we should also take that away from him, meaning the only jutsu he showed us without the shairgan was chidori and without the sharigan chidori is a very risky move to use. I do agree that kakashi has however shown more ninjutsu feats that itachi because he has not only been in more fights but also itachi's main fighting style in genjutsu.
Second thing is stamina. How kakashi isnt dead my now is beyond me. its clearly plot no jutsu in motion which has allowed him to continue to fight and even say he would teleport tbb
. Now whether kakashi's stamina would increase because of this we dont know therefore he still gets him 3/5. Now itachi due to his illness obviously decrease his stamina and potentially his strength, no different to how sarutobi's old age affected him. Now if we were to estimate itachi's stamina id say its either the same as his little brother at 3.5/5 when he is healthy or due to him being abit holder than sasuke might gain a 0.5 advantage taking him to 4 because its in 20's that your stamina increases and decrease in your late 30's although this differs from person to perosn.What i find funny the most is how people say without the shairgan kakashi would win, but forget that he has used his sharigan ever since he got it therefore it would feel no different to itachi's not using his sharigan. Itachi activated it at 8, kakashi gained his at 13. If both lost it, it would affect either the same way
MasterofSenjutsu
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Are you stupid? The original rasengan does not have an element. There is Wind Style: Rasengan and Wind Style: Rasenshuriken. But the ORIGINAL one does not have an element.dude naruto only know how to use wind element jutsus. And kakashi also stated tht naruto has the advantage of rasengan against sasukes chidori due to rasengan being wind element which has the advantage against lightning
assasinitachi123
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Itachi of course.... well he can use susanoo and that too without sharingan...
he also knows a lot of fire ninjutsus.... he was not head of anbu in very low age just like that.... he also is good in taijutsu and can also do finger genjutsu, explosive shadow clone.... n all..... kakashi without sharingan cany anicipate itachi's movement and will be defeted...
he also knows a lot of fire ninjutsus.... he was not head of anbu in very low age just like that.... he also is good in taijutsu and can also do finger genjutsu, explosive shadow clone.... n all..... kakashi without sharingan cany anicipate itachi's movement and will be defeted...
MasterofSenjutsu
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No, Itachi can't use Susanoo without Sharingan. Why would you think something like that? :sy: