kabuto (now) vs original akatsuki

[Nikes]

how od you know kabuto is not fast enough to notice it is just stand there and he has manda2.0 which is a great help. all those summons are useless against

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or jutsu of this scale

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and no tobi does not have juubi so shill and the thread maker said pein not nagato or prime so calm the **** down.
dust release can kill the tailed beats with a clean shot.
and kabuto's edo have summons two which have way better abilities then the slew of easily defeated summons he usually has. stop boasting about tobi he is definetly not great.
and if the third raikage tied with the second strongest tailed beast then he can handle the rest.
and jouki boy would rape them infinetly no matter how many times it is destroyed.
and kabuto doesnt have to avoid tobi if he is properly protected.

Pein is Akatsuki and a tool of Nagato's so have fun being dumb.

And yeah tobi does have the juubi he used them against Naruto Bee Kakashi and Gai.

For some reason you think Kabuto is going to be far away during this battle? He won't have the luxury of being a coward in an unknown area. The battle is Kabuto vs Akatsuki 1v10+6(Pein) in a battlefield like normal battles are. It's not Kabuto(in far away area) vs Akatsuki.

So all those massive jutsus you just named off would kill Kabuto too and leave Tobi+whoever he wants to teleport with him away still alive while Kabuto is dead. You want to keep naming the edos jutsus but the fact is if Kabuto dies he loses. Tobi can easily get to him with his ability w/o even having to deal with any edos.

You say if he's properly protected? Kabuto will need all of his edos to fight against just Itachi Nagato and his paths of Pein on top of that the rest of Akatsuki and the juubi and jinchuurikis. He won't have the luxury of body guards.

Tobi can EASILY reach him in the midst of the chaos.

 

[6pathofpain]

how od you know kabuto is not fast enough to notice it is just stand there and he has manda2.0 which is a great help. all those summons are useless against

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or jutsu of this scale

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and no tobi does not have juubi so shill and the thread maker said pein not nagato or prime so calm the **** down.
dust release can kill the tailed beats with a clean shot.
and kabuto's edo have summons two which have way better abilities then the slew of easily defeated summons he usually has. stop boasting about tobi he is definetly not great.
and if the third raikage tied with the second strongest tailed beast then he can handle the rest.
and jouki boy would rape them infinetly no matter how many times it is destroyed.
and kabuto doesnt have to avoid tobi if he is properly protected.

Kabuto's a bitch 1...
2 If its pain were talkin about itachi an deva path can fight madara with no problem, itachi's sword can suck up a forest jus like it did did oro big ass snake, pain has much more knowledge of the rinnegun then madara an if u think otherwise then ur retard, madara jus got those eyes b4 he died, pain can use the univeral pull to yank madara outta his suasnoo an itachi can seal him, not say it would b that easy but it can b done, itachi's mirror sheild can block any attack madara throws at them an pain can destroy an forest madara creates with a almighty push, but more likely since its pain an not nagato to save chakra he can punch the ground an create an ocean to drown the forest, which he did when he fought 6 tails, an if itachi gets him n genjustsu for even a second with pain there its over, i could go on but thats kinda long on jus that subject

Zetsu copies every1 n the clan three times, obvious they wont b as powerful but 3 deidara's with bombs an 300 puppets getting in the way not to metion like 1000 of the white zetsu gettin in the way will give people like Kisame, Kazuku, kohan, hidan(more likely to get in the way more than anything) time to do more damage an cause more confusion, an kisame can an will eat the chakra of the 3rd raikage's sheild, An to say any of them would go down easily with all that on there side is retarded

Tobi in all the confusion will warp around suckin the kages an the 7 swordsmen(who i didnt really mention cause most of them didnt have there actually swords an really arent gonna b much of a problem cause most of them got there ass kicked by kakashi) into another diminsion an once there there thats it for them an kabuto's numbers will lower very quickly

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

the boss toad already beat that mutt.



chiyo took down an entire castle with her jutsu and now being an edo... she'll take sasori down... and no one told me that tobi is an express taxi service...

well seeing that she wouldnt be able to use puppet master justu no she wont

 

[Kratos of cruxis]

Evryone's talkin bout how tobi gave nagato the eyes...its very likely that the eyes were originally madara's own to begin with...btw, tobi has 2 become solid to warp kabuto, once he does dat someone else can take him out...as kakashi proved..

how did kakashi prove that?????

 

[6pathofpain]

nagato has zero skill without the rinnegan so calm down at least madra has talent without it. and madara is not that strong he is beating the five kages to a pulp and pretty much wiped out a entire division. tobi cant do shit againt muu he wont be able to find muu who will go and rape the rest and come back and kick his dumbass. if he is so strong why does he always lose a arm in battle he is pathetic. raikage cant beat hidan and kakuzu is that a joke. the two of them cant do shit he can cut hidan into pieces. he can dodge and destroy all of kakuzu hearts. second mizukage>kisame so be quite and fourth kaze kage handles the rest. even then there are still the swordsman.kin gin bros and hanzo and you still think akatsuki can win.

If were talkin about nagato he doesnt need to have any other talents, we saw wat he did to the leaf village an naruto sage mode an 6 tails, he beat sage mode thats y hinata came an helped an he beat 6 tails which is y he turned into 8 tails an was about to go 9 tails cause he didnt have enough power. Deva path an itachi can take madara(an yes i do think those 2 can beat the 5 kages) Any forest that madara creates can be drowned if pain punches the growned an creates a ocean like he did when he fought 6 tails. Not to mention Itachi's sword i believe will suck up that forest jus like the giant 8 headed snake, an pollen will easily b pushed away with a small almighty push.Nothing madara or really any1 can do will get thru itachi's mirror sheild an deva path can stand behind that use the universal pull that will pull madara outta the suasnoo an itachi's sword will end it

An lets not underestimate tobi, muu's dust move wont work on him cause if u remember tobi saved suaske from inside it an really that all he can really do it seems

An for the record kakuzu is not a joke if he was he wouldnt of been sent to kill the 1st hokage some how was said to the strongest ninja since the sage, an he wouldnt of made it bak alive

An if zetsu copies the clan 3 or 4 times plus has 1000 of him self, think about it 4 deidara's droppin bombs An 400 puppets getting in the way, an yes he can copy their justsu's that how he continued the fight wit killer bee when he was fighting kisame

kabuto doesnt have enough people to summon to protect him, his concentration will be focused on not gettin killed, he cant concentrate on controllin every1 an that, plus we dont even no wat the black zetsu can do

An i appreciate the apology, no harm done yo

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

Pein is Akatsuki and a tool of Nagato's so have fun being dumb.

And yeah tobi does have the juubi he used them against Naruto Bee Kakashi and Gai.

For some reason you think Kabuto is going to be far away during this battle? He won't have the luxury of being a coward in an unknown area. The battle is Kabuto vs Akatsuki 1v10+6(Pein) in a battlefield like normal battles are. It's not Kabuto(in far away area) vs Akatsuki.

So all those massive jutsus you just named off would kill Kabuto too and leave Tobi+whoever he wants to teleport with him away still alive while Kabuto is dead. You want to keep naming the edos jutsus but the fact is if Kabuto dies he loses. Tobi can easily get to him with his ability w/o even having to deal with any edos.

You say if he's properly protected? Kabuto will need all of his edos to fight against just Itachi Nagato and his paths of Pein on top of that the rest of Akatsuki and the juubi and jinchuurikis. He won't have the luxury of body guards.

Tobi can EASILY reach him in the midst of the chaos.

really okay send me a pic of tobi using the juubi against naruto. im definetly sure you will find it. and it doesnt matter if kabuto dies cuz the jutsu wont end and if akatsuki wants to win they have to beat everyone. and no one will let that weak piece of shit white zetsu touch them so easily and he can be easily defeated. and even if he clones them they are not as strong as the original and wont last long. and madara has ems>itachi so calm down and his rinnegan which can summon meteorits. nagato rinnegan. dont boast nagato and his dumb paths. and he needs to be in that machine which means he will have all that shit stabed in him so he wont do much. and he has the strongest kage of their villages history in his control so i think he can manage against a loser like tobi.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

If were talkin about nagato he doesnt need to have any other talents, we saw wat he did to the leaf village an naruto sage mode an 6 tails, he beat sage mode thats y hinata came an helped an he beat 6 tails which is y he turned into 8 tails an was about to go 9 tails cause he didnt have enough power. Deva path an itachi can take madara(an yes i do think those 2 can beat the 5 kages) Any forest that madara creates can be drowned if pain punches the growned an creates a ocean like he did when he fought 6 tails. Not to mention Itachi's sword i believe will suck up that forest jus like the giant 8 headed snake, an pollen will easily b pushed away with a small almighty push.Nothing madara or really any1 can do will get thru itachi's mirror sheild an deva path can stand behind that use the universal pull that will pull madara outta the suasnoo an itachi's sword will end it

An lets not underestimate tobi, muu's dust move wont work on him cause if u remember tobi saved suaske from inside it an really that all he can really do it seems

An for the record kakuzu is not a joke if he was he wouldnt of been sent to kill the 1st hokage some how was said to the strongest ninja since the sage, an he wouldnt of made it bak alive

An if zetsu copies the clan 3 or 4 times plus has 1000 of him self, think about it 4 deidara's droppin bombs An 400 puppets getting in the way, an yes he can copy their justsu's that how he continued the fight wit killer bee when he was fighting kisame

kabuto doesnt have enough people to summon to protect him, his concentration will be focused on not gettin killed, he cant concentrate on controllin every1 an that, plus we dont even no wat the black zetsu can do

An i appreciate the apology, no harm done yo

the tsunami was only in the anim,e so i dont really consider it canon at all. and im pretty sure if he pulls madara his susanoo will go with him or he will manifest around him again. and while itachi is sucking in one tree that he impaled the other ones can come from all other sides and restrict susaanoo movements. and zetsu is weak and they can easily kill him before he touches and his clones are shy of the original power. kabuto dosnt have to control everyone thats why most have free will unless they try to betray him then he has to brainwash and take over like with hanzo. and black zetsu is nothing.

 

[6pathofpain]

the tsunami was only in the anim,e so i dont really consider it canon at all. and im pretty sure if he pulls madara his susanoo will go with him or he will manifest around him again. and while itachi is sucking in one tree that he impaled the other ones can come from all other sides and restrict susaanoo movements. and zetsu is weak and they can easily kill him before he touches and his clones are shy of the original power. kabuto dosnt have to control everyone thats why most have free will unless they try to betray him then he has to brainwash and take over like with hanzo. and black zetsu is nothing.

1 the anime is jus as reliable as the manga if u ask me cause im sure there made by the same person, plus its jus more iterestin to watch then to read

2 it would b kinda stupid of itachi to impale a tree rather than swing an take them all

3 it doesnt really matter if madara's susanoo comes with him because that sword will suck them both up jus the same

4 i u wanna use logic like some1 can kill zetsu b4 he uses his clones, then i can use logic like itachi will hit him with genjustu before kabuto can use the edo(which will end the fight) or the deva path will use the universal pull an the human path will take his soul b4 kabuto can use the edo(which will also end the fight) or itachi's susanoo will swipe all of them with the blade before they come out the coffin(which would again...end the fight)

5 since u seem to no the black zetsu abilities enough to say he's nothing please explain to me wat they are

6 kabuto himself is weak an useless to any1, there like no1 in the anime thats simi important that he could beat himself, rock lee(deffinitly),kiba,neji(deffinitly)kakashi(deffinitly) guy(deffinitly) maybe even hinata or sakura would beat his ass :flaw:

 

[Scryed]

But the thing is kabuto always secludes himself so unlikely tobi can find him. so i see akatsuki do having to take heavy casualties to win or draw it since a major advantage kabuto has is that they are edos. without tobi though i dont see akatsuki standing a chance, he is the one who should be on madara's level. I can even see kabuto winning if he can take out tobi but madara's meteor is a huge advantage to keep killing the weaker akatsuki members. he also has the numbers advantage but tobi has beasts so its a very tough battle. I keep having to reconsider cos i forget some important assets both sides have so very tough fight indeed.

Once again, you're right. If the fight takes place with Kabuto already hiding(scenario 1), I do see Kabuto winning. If this versus fight takes place face to face though(scenario 2), I would give this to Akatsuki since Kabuto would then have to hide while the Akatsuki are chasing him. Without Tobi, Akatsuki would lose in both scenarios since they won't be able to seperate Kabuto from his Edos by warping him to a completely different dimension.

Since Tobi could warp not only himself but others to his dimension, there might not be any Akatsuki tradegies in scenario 2 if he warps all of Akatsuki and himself to his dimension at the start of the battle then warps straight to Kabuto and in the next second warps Kabuto and himself away from the Edos and to his Dimension in which Akatsuki would be waiting to face Kabuto alone.

This also depends on another factor though. If the Edos are already summoned or if Kabuto would have to summon them in the middle of combat. Normally, Kabuto would have an advantage if the Edos are already summoned. In this case and against Tobi though, it would be better to summon them after the versus match has already started.

If the Edos are already summoned and Kabuto gets warped, he's ****ed.

If he summoned just a few Edos to aid him at the start of the fight and gets warped afterwards, he could summon the remaining Edos in the pocket Dimension to aid him. This way, if Tobi warps him back to the main battlefield along with Akatsuki to avoid the Edos there, the Edos he summoned first would already be waiting in the main battlefield. So this time, it could still go either way since the only person Akatsuki have to worry about killing is Kabuto and Kabuto would still have some Edos aiding him in this fight.

Someone else pointed something out though. If Kabuto could somehow do a reverse summoning to summon the Edos back to him if they are in another dimension, he could pull off this win on both scenarios too. It's still not one sided though since Akatsuki would be focusing on only killing Kabuto since he would be their main target but this way, he would have all of his Edos aiding him in combat.

This is only if he actually has reverse summoning. I haven't seen him summon his Edos to another spot if they're already out of their coffin so this is just a what if.

 

[Nikes]

really okay send me a pic of tobi using the juubi against naruto. im definetly sure you will find it. and it doesnt matter if kabuto dies cuz the jutsu wont end and if akatsuki wants to win they have to beat everyone. and no one will let that weak piece of shit white zetsu touch them so easily and he can be easily defeated. and even if he clones them they are not as strong as the original and wont last long. and madara has ems>itachi so calm down and his rinnegan which can summon meteorits. nagato rinnegan. dont boast nagato and his dumb paths. and he needs to be in that machine which means he will have all that shit stabed in him so he wont do much. and he has the strongest kage of their villages history in his control so i think he can manage against a loser like tobi.

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There is 4 Bijuu right there. So yeah.

If Kabuto dies the vs match up is over. The edos aren't Kabuto are they? No they are edos.

A loser like Tobi? Wow. The facts are right there on how easy it would be to snatch up Kabuto.

Honestly though you think the Edos can handle 5 bijuu and their TBB? Hell no and Kabuto can't either one TBB aimed at him ends this whole thing.

 

[nells0]

kabuto : edo.... all edos except the akatsuki people.

akatsuki : all alive , prime.

Pein
konan
itachi
kisame
kakuzu
hidan
deidara
sasori
tobi (with 6 paths)
zetsu

who wins.

kabuto:summons dead people
itachi: Amaterasu
tobi: teleports behind kabuto and suck him up
tobi: releases him next to the akatsuki
hidan/didara: ........ lets gang rape him.........

LOL

nar i think tobi can take madara, itachi and pein can take the edo (amaterasu and almighty push) then kabuto loses

 

[MickNerks]

If sure kabuto would keep Madara close to him and let the other edos fight them he would win.. Madara, raikage, and gold and silver brothers are capable of taking on tailed beast by themselves...

 

[-Vegeta-]

Kabuto

 

[Shinigami King]

Akatsuki, All the Edo Tenseis have the souls of the people inside right? So Nagato could just take their souls away just by touching them.
Alternative Itachi could use shisui's eye on Kabuto

 

[MrNarutoBase]

So many ppl on Kabuto's jock...smh. Itachi states that all jutsus have a weakness. All of Akatsuki lose against Kabuto? GTFO. If Kabuto was really badass he wouldn't try to have an alliance with Akatsuki in the first place. Akatsuki coulld definitely defeat Kabuto. The real question is... How the eff do you stop edo tensei? lol

 

[dareak]

Do all the sealed edos count or only the ones remaining now?

 

[TobisPawn]

Akatsuki.
Sasori summons his 100 puppets, and Itachi lights them on fire with Amaterasu. Sasori sends them at the edos = burn? Tobi rapes with 6 bijuus, bijuu bombing waves of edos away. Six Paths of Pain do their thing. Hidan distracts while Kakuzu attacks...Kisame does his huge Shark Missile thing. Zetsu attaches spores to everyone, slowly absorbs the edo's chakra + hinders them. Konan does her thing. Deidara is all the meanwhile just blowing shit up.

 

[Pokydirtysouth]

ok ive fallen in love with the crimson tricksters mind
she has valid points with everything shes said
im impressed
and if i wanted kids id ask her to mother them

as far as this thread goes shes right Kabuto would most def win not easily but a wins a win
not to mention we really dont know much about him since hes absorbed Orochimaru
he walked up to Tobi for a conversation knowing it couldve led into a fight
think about it

 

[ghost nappa]

I'm just lol'ing at the thought of kakuzu in his prime. Did he wear bell bottoms?

 

[ghost nappa]

The fight depends on how close they start off to kabuto. If he's in eyesight of them from the start of the fight he's dead before he can react. If not, then he starts a small war.