Clearing up the confusion on who the strongest Hokage is......

[palmer]

Useless post,even d 3rd hokage wen fightin oro and his 2 edo tensi,commented while oro was tryn 2 brng up d 4th hokage,d 3rd made sure he stp d 4th coffin 4rm openin,cos he said it wl b impossible 2 win wit d 4th in d fight,so kp u ****n 2ots 2 ur selves

 

[prakashkumar]

first hokage is the strongest of all.

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

I have responded to your post,Viewtiful,if you want to check it out.​

 

[akamo]

Hiruzen old can do every jutsu Hiruzen prime can. The only difference is the speed and strength. You consider that Hiruzen knows many jutsu's when all of us have not seen what those jutsu's are. If I can only find the chapter where someone said that a pre requisite to be a Hokage is to have a thousand jutsu's then it can rule out the argument of Hiruzen defeating Minato because he was the professor and he knows all jutsu.

Prime or not, there is no jutsu in his arsenal that we have seen so far (FACT) that can defeat FTG. What jutsu do you think that Hiruzen had to stop FTG?

Hiruzen's jutsu's shown in the manga:

Dead Demon Consuming Seal
Earth Release: Earth-Style Wall
Fire Release: Fire Dragon Flame Bullet
Shadow Clone Technique
Shuriken Shadow Clone Technique
Summoning Technique (Monkey King: Enma)
Telescope Technique

If you'll say that he can defeat Minato because he was said to master all jutsu's then you're just speculating because until now there is no jutsu in Konoha that can stop FTG. And by speculating, you are making him a jutsu that can stop FTG which is not a good way to support Hiruzen being stronger than Minato.

i support ur idea,just think of it orochimaru knowin a lot of jutsu and yet couldnt defeat jiraya one on one and was defeated by sasuke who was his apprentice.knwning all jutsu doesnt make u best but just strong.

 

[pervy sage the master]

youre right

 

[aihki]

Useless post,even d 3rd hokage wen fightin oro and his 2 edo tensi,commented while oro was tryn 2 brng up d 4th hokage,d 3rd made sure he stp d 4th coffin 4rm openin,cos he said it wl b impossible 2 win wit d 4th in d fight,so kp u ****n 2ots 2 ur selves

u fail, 3rd means its impossible to win fighting 1st,2nd,orochimaru plus 4th. that's why he stop the 4th. fighting 1st and 2nd at the same time is not an easy feat.

 

[Naruto Boss]

there is no way hiruzen can be the strongest hokage not even in his prime ok

 

[Naruto Boss]

u fail, 3rd means its impossible to win fighting 1st,2nd,orochimaru plus 4th. that's why he stop the 4th. fighting 1st and 2nd at the same time is not an easy feat.

he didnt stop the summoning of the fourth the fourth is sealed thats why he didnt get summon ok guys.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Hmm I take back what I said about Minato being stronger than Hashirama. this healing without seals thing puts him on a different level

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

Users are acting like the DBs hold no wieght when Kishimoto writes them as fact, and I just decided to point out that the very same thing (approximately anyway) was stated by Iruka.

I'll post this one last time:

Page 117: "He is such a genius ninja that he was even called the 'Professor', and he still garners everyone's respect as the strongest Hokage in history." (「„プロフェッサー”と呼ばれたほどの天才忍者であり、歴代最強の火影として皆の尊敬を集め続ける。」, "'Purofessā' to yobareta hodo no tensai ninja de ari, rekidai saikyō no Hokage toshite mina no sonkei o atsume tsuzukeru")

Page 119: "'Strongest in history', 'genius', et cetera, the words used to describe the Third Hokage are filled with respect." (「„歴代最強”„天才”など、三代目火影を形容する言葉は賞賛に満ちている。」, "'Rekidai saikyō' 'tensai' nado, Sandaime Hokage o keiyōsuru kotoba wa shōsan ni michite iru.")

Page 265: "The Third is called the strongest, even among the past Hokage, and he is even admired as the 'God of Shinobi'." (「三代目は歴代火影の中でも最強と言われ、„忍の神”と謳われたことも。」, "Sandaime wa rekidai Hokage no naka demo saikyō to iware, 'Shinobi no Kami' to utawareta koto mo")


And that's just in the first databook. Both of the other ones state the same thing. Hiruzen being the strongest Hokage is indeed fact. I asked the guy that I requested the translation from over on the wiki if that included Minato, and he responded with this:

"Yes, I would say he's stronger —albeit not necessarily greater— than Minato, as well. If I'm not mistaken, '歴代' includes the current generation as well."


There's no doubt anywhere that Hiruzen is the strongest. All that has been going on is that Hashirama's strength has been expanded upon. Heck, the funny thing is, half of you are saying something along the lines of "Where's Hiruzen's feats?" or "Hiruzen is all hype" , yet that's all Hashirama has thus far gotten: hype.

but he was only called god of shinobi only in the leaf
and kabuto called him the strongest because he didn't know the full powers of hashirama
hashirama>3rd

 

[Ryuu..]

With the latest developments in the manga i'm inclined to say Hashirama > Hiruzen U_U

 

[Orochimaruwantsyourbody]

lol,so what?

Hiruzen has 101 jutsus.Hashi gets raped.​

 

[Raqura]

he didnt stop the summoning of the fourth the fourth is sealed thats why he didnt get summon ok guys.

You fail the 4th was stopped by the third

 

[Raqura]

lol,so what?

Hiruzen has 101 jutsus.Hashi gets raped.​

You must be a pot head :flaw:

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Hmm I take back what I said about Minato being stronger than Hashirama. this healing without seals thing puts him on a different level

wise decision is WISE xd

You fail the 4th was stopped by the third

what an idiot

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do you think a simple shuriken can stop the edo tensei ?

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[Ryuu..]

lol,so what?

Hiruzen has 101 jutsus.Hashi gets raped.​

Too excited.

You fail the 4th was stopped by the third

Too stupid.

You must be a pot head :flaw:

Too rude.

wise decision is WISE xd




what an idiot

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do you think a simple shuriken can stop the edo tensei ?

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Just right xd

 

[Viewtiful]

but he was only called god of shinobi only in the leaf
and kabuto called him the strongest because he didn't know the full powers of hashirama
hashirama>3rd

No. He was called the 'God of Shinobi' by all. It was nevr said that he was only called such in Konoha.


@Orochimaruwantsyourbody

Where's your response to my post? I couldn't find it.

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

You know, it's funny how these "clearing up the confusion" threads never really clear up anything. The irony....

 

[teutonicknite]

Hmmmm..... So, your saying that Hashirama>Hiruzen>Minato>Tobirama>Tsunade..... makes more sense than it breaks! +rep and cool down! Just cause there are preferences doesn't make one stupid.... just senseless U_U

 

[zombiejesus]

You know, it's funny how these "clearing up the confusion" threads never really clear up anything. The irony....

you can not clear up an opinion it is not intended to clear anything up it is to make a hot thread and he succeeded