[Debate] Does God exist?

[hawaiianmike]

A lot of people end up changing their beliefs when they get older. Thats ok. We're all trying to find truth and reconcile that to our lives. Why don't you believe anymore?

Well if you must know it wasn't a thing I just decided in one day. It was a collective of questions of questions that arose within me over the years.

 

[SSW Imp]

Agreed. Now having said that, Atheists, Christians, Catholics, Etc. Let's all just go lay down my a nice fire and make love.:y

Yes except for the laying down and making love part, ..... that's just weird

 

[acdcrockgods]

if he proof to be real a lot of ppl will have the sh*ttest face in history and a nightmare of a life from that point on it's sad

 

[Slingshot]

Agreed. Now having said that, Atheists, Christians, Catholics, Etc. Let's all just go lay down my a nice fire get married and make love.:y

fixed

 

[Darr06]

You can't really use that look at creation theory anymore since they are discovering more and more proof of things like the Big Bang, we are close to finding the Higgs Boson particle as well, soon as that Is found or even If It will be, It will disprove all those stories about how God created the universe. Since the Higgs Boson is pretty much existed right after the Big Bang and created and gave mass to everything. This being said It's nickname is called the "God particle". Now as much as people want both sides to be true the simple fact remains that there is no 100% proof on either side. You can't prove God exist you go by your faith, just like you can't prove everything 100% Science to be real you go off facts.

That is the reason I dislike religion, Hell and Heaven. Seems like a threat to me, If you follow my rules and love me you go to heaven, If you disobey you go to hell. Sounds like a top notch guy to me, you wanna dissect the bible and read between the lines you will see all the genocides that God committed, don't sound to merciful and loving to me. Some religions even believe and state that If a baby dies before It's baptized It goes to hell. That is just downright disgusting. If you believe in God good for you, If you don't then good for you as well. I won't say anymore on this subject, I tend to let people believe what they want no matter what It is.

I'm Agnostic so you can take whatever from that. That's all I'ma say on the subject.

Actually, I really hope they find the higgs boson, haha. I love quantum physics. its so cool. Anyway, subatomic particles aside, hell is not a punishment for not loving God. It is a punishment for living a life of crimes against God. Hell is total separation from God. He's giving you what you want in a sense. If you don't want to be with God, and you refuse to believe in Him, then he allows you to choose to be completely away from him. Interestingly enough, since God is everything that is good and beautiful in life, to be apart from God means to be apart from all things good. So a little bit about hell, haha.

Additionally, even if evolution and the big bang did happen, those things only disprove a literal interpretation of genesis, not an allegorical interpretation of creation and the human condition. As such, the big bang doesn't disprove God as it could have been a tool or vessel God used to bring about all things.

In the end though, I agree that you can't 100% prove God or science or anything really (cogito ergo sum). Everything takes a little faith

 

[AMfree]

god surely exists and everything shows that! but u know what? u can deceive urself that he doesnt and that is as far as u can go!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[enthaim]

First: Insulting me shows I am bothering you, while I barelly state my oppinion... Why does that bother you? Maybe it makes your mind think I might be right, and you don't like that...
Second, I lost faith because it seemed illogical to belive in something that has no proof to back it up... The question is, why do you belive? Isn't it more like you need something for psychological support? Not trying to be offensive, but I can understand you people... You still haven't made peace with the fact that death is to come, so you need religion to apease your fear... I don't...
finally, you talk about sin... so, how is it fair for me to pay for the sins of my ancestors?

God stopped making people pay for other people's sins. Unfortunately, people themselves have not. Look at what's going on around the world. People are killing the children of dictators and terrorist as if it is automatic that there children will do the same thing later on in life. They actually have to be trained to do so. Back to subject, focusing only on the negatives just denies the positives. Everything has positives and negatives as long as there's sin so if the negatives are enough to deter you from believing then that's just your op I guess.

 

[Darr06]

Well if you must know it wasn't a thing I just decided in one day. It was a collective of questions of questions that arose within me over the years.

I don't need to know, and I know you didn't have to tell me, but i appreciate you sharing. Do you mind sharing some of your questions? You don't have to, but i have questions too and I don't know everything. I just like sharing common ground

 

[Necron]

So we don't go to hell. And besides, you may not have had it happen in your life but many people including myself have had God influence their lives. For some people Christianity has changed their lives for the better. So let's say you don't believe in God. But would you tell those who lives have become better, who feel better, who have taken up new lifestyles and become better people because of religion that they don't need God? That he changes nothing in their life?

Sure we all make our own decisions on how we live our life. But if belief in God and following the teaching of Jesus helps us then what's the harm? Tell me, how many atheist do you know that live a sin free life?

I know some that try the best they can... How many religious people do you know that do so?

lol

God does exist. once you realize that you should get on your knees repent and ask Jesus to be your personal savior and to come into your life

there is a heaven and hell. those who except jesus go to heaven. those who dont go to hell. its not about being good or nice or being a good person. its not about you at all. its about God. did you accept him whole heartedly and truthfully? do you try to follow his examples? walk the way he walk, talk the way he talk?

doing good works doesnt get one into heaven. we are not saved by works alone but by grace we have been saved.

once again God does exist. we all need God.

does your parent exist? do you have faith in your parents? you know they exist but do you have faith in them? do you have faith that they will help you out when you when you need help? do you have faith that they will be there when you call? hmm? if you have faithful parents than you have the answer to that question.

what do you have against God?

I have nothing agaist god, for me it would be like having something agaist a fictional character... I do not belive in his existance, but feel free to do belive if you want to... My oppinion is that religion is illogical, why do you care so much to change my oppinion... It is true I view most (not all of them) religious people as immature, but you don't have to care about my oppinion... If you are right, your god will punish me, won't he? Getting mad and insulting me proves you question him yourself... If you were a true beliver, you'de let me get what I "deserve" from his divine power...

 

[Slingshot]

Well if you must know it wasn't a thing I just decided in one day. It was a collective of questions of questions that arose within me over the years.

Same with me for a while. I used to be atheist because I had a whole bunch of questions and neither of my Christian parents could answer them for me. It wasn't until I visited a church, talked to people, and looked in the bible that I found my answers.

I implore you if you have any questions about Christianity that you genuinely want answered and can't seem to find anyone to talk to about them go to your local church. Most likely one of the leaders or the pastor himself would take the time to speak with you.

 

[Ninpou]

science only explains the creation of God

you look at life and you see uniformity, balance, art, beauty. look into dna. look into the cell. look into gravity. the distance the earth is from the sun. the solar system.

you think all of it is by chance?

but if i showed you the Mona Lisa would you say it was made by random color paints splashing on a canvas board? no you would say it was painted. if i showed you Mount Rushmore would you say it was erosion of mountains over millions of years from oceans or rain water or that it was carved by a person?

If you take into acount how vast the universe is then it is all possible by chance, if you were to throw colors of paint at drawing board using a new drawing board everytime, you would eventualy get one that is identical to the monalisa, its the same with the other things you mentioned.

 

[Deadai]

science only explains the creation of God

you look at life and you see uniformity, balance, art, beauty. look into dna. look into the cell. look into gravity. the distance the earth is from the sun. the solar system.

you think all of it is by chance?

but if i showed you the Mona Lisa would you say it was made by random color paints splashing on a canvas board? no you would say it was painted. if i showed you Mount Rushmore would you say it was erosion of mountains over millions of years from oceans or rain water or that it was carved by a person?

1. yeah I would say it was painted because it was point?...
2.duh of course it was carved by man
Approximately 400 men and women used their abilities to create the carving on Mount Rushmore. Some worked only a few days. Others worked for years. again I don't see your point ​

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

A) still insulting me...
B) So, some babyes born with a mutation, what did they do to deserve it?
also, people born in wealthy fammilies, how did they get there?
C) you don't fear death, because you belive you'll go to heaven... I don't fear death because I accept it as part of my life... I embrace the unknown, be it an afterlife, a re-incarnation or an eternal darkness...
D) The way you view sin is different than mine... I've had *** with multiple girls, yet I don't think of it as a sin, since we both wanted intercource... So, why would intercource be considered a sin? And yes, I did get mad at people, then realised that doing so has no purpose at all... The only thing that matters is to have a good time, and ensure the people around you do so as well... Happyness is the ultimate wisdome in life...
E) and, yes, I live an extream life, and live every day as my last one... That is my philosophy. I know I am happy with my life... are you happy with your's? If yes, good for you, if not, well, you know the recipie...

i at least am apoligizing. sorry again

you're asking me a question that i cannot answer. do you expect to find all the answers? and if God cant answer it for you do you than conclude that God cannot exist? is that how it works? God why am i hear? no answer. well than i guess that means evolution. God where did this world come from? no answer? well i guess that means big bang.

why dont you ask: God why did you allow me not to be born with a mutation?

you embrace the unknown? bullshit. you embrace the unknown but yet you question God. either way who is in fear? you said i feared death but i dont so who is in fear? you explained why both of us arent in fear but who is in fear? or did you have a huge misconcetption?

lmao wrong wrong wrong. and yea i summed you up pretty well huh? living livida loca. live life to the fullest. enjoy life no regrets blah blah blah. you may have happyness doing what you want but having Jesus in your life and you will have joy. *** was meant for the marital bed. not so you can *** multiple chicks before hand. your view of sin is wrong. your view of sin is to comfort your own conscious.

let me ask you this? what if it makes someone happy to have *** with a minor? is that the ultimate wisedom in life? let me ask you this again. what if someone wants to kill themself? what if their death would make them happy? is that wise? is it right? is it not sin? according to your view of sin? is the pedo and suicidal person sinless because their just doing what makes them happy?

you willing to spend an eternity in hell for the sake of your happyness?

 

[AMfree]

Actually, I really hope they find the higgs boson, haha. I love quantum physics. its so cool. Anyway, subatomic particles aside, hell is not a punishment for not loving God. It is a punishment for living a life of crimes against God. Hell is total separation from God. He's giving you what you want in a sense. If you don't want to be with God, and you refuse to believe in Him, then he allows you to choose to be completely away from him. Interestingly enough, since God is everything that is good and beautiful in life, to be apart from God means to be apart from all things good. So a little bit about hell, haha.

Additionally, even if evolution and the big bang did happen, those things only disprove a literal interpretation of genesis, not an allegorical interpretation of creation and the human condition. As such, the big bang doesn't disprove God as it could have been a tool or vessel God used to bring about all things.

In the end though, I agree that you can't 100% prove God or science or anything really (cogito ergo sum). Everything takes a little faith

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE BELIEVE IN SOO MANY THINGS LIKE THE BIG BANG THEORY. AS MUCH AS I LIKE SCIENCE,IT STILL IS THE EXCUSE WE FIND FOR NOT DOING THINGS RIGHT.BEING CREATED BY A GOD AND BEING CREATED FROM SOME BIG BANG THEORY WHICH IS MORE BELIEVABLE? TO ME THE SO CALLED BIG BANG THEORY JUST SUCKS!!!!!!!

 

[Deadai]

wow!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEOPLE BELIEVE IN SOO MANY THINGS LIKE THE BIG BANG THEORY. AS MUCH AS I LIKE SCIENCE,IT STILL IS THE EXCUSE WE FIND FOR NOT DOING THINGS RIGHT.BEING CREATED BY A GOD AND BEING CREATED FROM SOME BIG BANG THEORY WHICH IS MORE BELIEVABLE? TO ME THE SO CALLED BIG BANG THEORY JUST SUCKS!!!!!!!

Its still more believable then some imaginary man in the clouds who just magically crated everything if you ask me ​

 

[DESTRUCTO]

I grew up in a christian home, and have grown up with the teachings of chirstianity. When I hit 16, I started to question my faith, and why other religions existed before and during the same time as judaism. How could all these religions hold the same properties of faith, love, and prayer but only contradict on inate dogma, and representations of deities.

Now I personally have felt the hand of God, and believe fully that it exists. The only conclusion I could come up with is, that all of man has experienced this phenomenon and tried there best to explain it, to define it, because that is what we do as humans, is we constantly strive to define the world around us. It is called making reality.

Which leads me to my point, I do believe in God, but I also believe that there is evolution and there was a big bang. My main question to those who follow only science is, how do you get an infinite amount of mass and energy expanding from a single point of nothingness? That is the only nonsensical thing about the big bang theory to me.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

I know some that try the best they can... How many religious people do you know that do so?


I have nothing agaist god, for me it would be like having something agaist a fictional character... I do not belive in his existance, but feel free to do belive if you want to... My oppinion is that religion is illogical, why do you care so much to change my oppinion... It is true I view most (not all of them) religious people as immature, but you don't have to care about my oppinion... If you are right, your god will punish me, won't he? Getting mad and insulting me proves you question him yourself... If you were a true beliver, you'de let me get what I "deserve" from his divine power...

i dont care about changing your opinion. i dont care about you at all. im not an illogical person. you're ignorant to think religion is illogical.

and lastly i dont want you to "get what you deserve". i honestly dont. i dont want anybody to suffer in hell or anything like that. if i did than i wouldnt even be having this conversation with you. and thats what a true believer wants, is that you dont have to suffer and that you can come to know God.

and im not mad and again sorry for insulting you. lol i may seem insulting but im not. its just the way i say things.

If you take into acount how vast the universe is then it is all possible by chance, if you were to throw colors of paint at drawing board using a new drawing board everytime, you would eventualy get one that is identical to the monalisa, its the same with the other things you mentioned.

omg you serious? what are the chances of random paints forming the mona lisa? now compare that to the chances of someone actually painting it. be real. seriously be real.

1. yeah I would say it was painted because it was point?...
2.duh of course it was carved by man
Approximately 400 men and women used their abilities to create the carving on Mount Rushmore. Some worked only a few days. Others worked for years. again I don't see your point ​

would you believe me if i told you that the mona lisa wasnt painted but was a result of random splashes of paint falling on a canvas board? or that mount rushmore was the result of rain water eroding a mountain over thousands of years?

 

[Kyrik]

I believe the earth was created in 7 days... I believe it was created in 8 days...

Well, time for some good old religion fashioned war. Who ever kills the other side, or who ever has the most deaths and 1000 years of technological repression wins.


For the record, I don't believe in god now for science sake stop fighting before a war does start...

Science dammit!

 

[Necron]

i at least am apoligizing. sorry again

you're asking me a question that i cannot answer. do you expect to find all the answers? and if God cant answer it for you do you than conclude that God cannot exist? is that how it works? God why am i hear? no answer. well than i guess that means evolution. God where did this world come from? no answer? well i guess that means big bang.

why dont you ask: God why did you allow me not to be born with a mutation?

you embrace the unknown? bullshit. you embrace the unknown but yet you question God. either way who is in fear? you said i feared death but i dont so who is in fear? you explained why both of us arent in fear but who is in fear? or did you have a huge misconcetption?

lmao wrong wrong wrong. and yea i summed you up pretty well huh? living livida loca. live life to the fullest. enjoy life no regrets blah blah blah. you may have happyness doing what you want but having Jesus in your life and you will have joy. *** was meant for the marital bed. not so you can *** multiple chicks before hand. your view of sin is wrong. your view of sin is to comfort your own conscious.

let me ask you this? what if it makes someone happy to have *** with a minor? is that the ultimate wisedom in life? let me ask you this again. what if someone wants to kill themself? what if their death would make them happy? is that wise? is it right? is it not sin? according to your view of sin? is the pedo and suicidal person sinless because their just doing what makes them happy?

you willing to spend an eternity in hell for the sake of your happyness?

once again, I do not belive in hell or heaven... But yeah, why not... Let's just say there is a hell and a heaven and a god... Yeah, I'd chose hell, because I don't belive in the puritanic world I need to, in order to ender heaven... Let's just say, I'm like Lucifer, I have a differance of oppinions with your god... I belive in true freedom of will... So, even if I did belive in some religion, it would not be christianity... It does not suit me...

 

[Kyrik]

Lets say this, stop forcing people to believe in heaven or hell. I believe that your afterlife is what you believe it is. If you believe you will go to gods oven for eternity, have fun. If you believe you will go to a place where it's all white and fluffy all the time have fun, if you believe you will go to a place with 72 virgins after you explode yourself have fun. Me I believe I will get omnipotence after death. (Never hurts to hope eh?)