Hashirama vs Nagato

[The Work]

Tell me this....If Nagato is the stronger one...Wouldn't everyone would want to go get his cells??....No one wants Nagato's cells...Obviously Hashirima is the stronger one

 

[Exaar]

Tell me this....If Nagato is the stronger one...Wouldn't everyone would want to go get his cells??....No one wants Nagato's cells...Obviously Hashirima is the stronger one

*facepalm*

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

As we know Hashirama fought Madarra and won. and the Madarra he fought (the real one not tobi) has rinnegan and he had the 9 tails under his control. and Hashirama still won. So I think Hashirama could win this fairly easy. Nagato has some good attacks but Hashirama knows them and could and did conter them and win.

False! The manga clearly states as Madara said himself, he awakened it after the fight and right before his death!

 

[TobisPawn]

From what can be assumed....
Motukon > EMS + Kurama not at full potential
Rinnegan > EMS and possibly Kurama though doubtful.

Narrow victory to Hashirama.

 

[arv993]

Tell me this....If Nagato is the stronger one...Wouldn't everyone would want to go get his cells??....No one wants Nagato's cells...Obviously Hashirima is the stronger one

just terrible logic

 

[narutownsyouall]

Hashirama beats Nagato

 

[Y3llovv fla5h]

Tell me this....If Nagato is the stronger one...Wouldn't everyone would want to go get his cells??....No one wants Nagato's cells...Obviously Hashirima is the stronger one

Double facepalm!!!

 

[Ryuu..]

Tell me this....If Nagato is the stronger one...Wouldn't everyone would want to go get his cells??....No one wants Nagato's cells...Obviously Hashirima is the stronger one

WOW, just wow.....................

 

[Cam]

We don't even know what Hashirama is fully capable of.

 

[Ryuu..]

We don't even know what Hashirama is fully capable of.

Therefore you must give the battle to Nagato.

 

[The Eye]

ok...before people start ridding the bandwagon lets stop and think. and its obvious Nagato would win this one.

 

[Exaar]

We don't even know what Hashirama is fully capable of.

We still have yet to see all of Nagato's Jutsu's

We have yet to see Any of the 5 elements he had mastered by the age of 11

 

[monchichay]

Conclusion:

Healthy Nagato will take this for now. Reason? We just have limited info about Hashirama for now regarding his skills and technique. Compared to Nagato's skills and technique which are way stronger and is on a higher level than the 1st. If we can see more about Hashirama's battle abilities,skills and techniques, probably the fate of this battle might favor Hashirama.

 

[Shinozgr8]

i honestly think hashirama would win...:shrug:

 

[Rovian]

We still have yet to see all of Nagato's Jutsu's

We have yet to see Any of the 5 elements he had mastered by the age of 11

We've yet to see any Jutsu from the 1st Hokage mate, stop giving Nagato all the credit just because you like him so much.

 

[Rovian]

Therefore you must give the battle to Nagato.

Just because we don't know a lot about the 1st Hokage doesn't mean Nagato should win.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Therefore you must give the battle to Nagato.

How can you say that when youve been putting hashirama above minato and hiruzen. We've seen more from them than hashirama yet you say he's stronger than both of them.

So don't pull that against Nagato.

 

[Ryuu..]

How can you say that when youve been putting hashirama above minato and hiruzen. We've seen more from them than hashirama yet you say he's stronger than both of them.

So don't pull that against Nagato.

You can't justify a Hashirama win in this circumstance without assumptions. I was just telling you what Kishi wrote.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

he actually did mention that in his interview but also understand that its not just plot but the fact is nagato can't use things that large of chakra w/o interval. even in his prime he was tired from just usng gedo mazo

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there is no way he can use all that at once. All you are doing is speculating that oh maybe he can use it all at once but no proof behind it. And especially when he is not edo he can't muster jutsus with that efficiency. Do you know that the jutsu hashi uses is extremely strong and it would just have to hit the target directly which is not a problem due to the target. It took naruto a bunch of big rasengans to stop a minor fraction of the mokuton but in large quantity its force should be enough.

Did you forget that nagato would be blind and during that time his most vulnerable like in the manga where his visons where blocked. He is a much easier target when he is in that state. shinra tensei would not hit the right target since he is blind, human path is no use since he has to be close, asura path is no use. When he is blind hashi can get him since he is pretty vulnerable
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OK lets just end this we have been going in circles and we both are probably not change our minds.

Bold 1- That wasnt Nagato in his prime..how can he be in his prime when he himself wasnt aware of the fact that his eyes were Rinnegan? He merely just got accustomed to them as you can tell by him recklessly using Gedo Mazo upon anger. I'm not speculating, it has been stated that Nagato can use multipile abilities of the Rinnegan at the same time, what happened to "I know I read the manga" when I showed you that page of him holding Killer Bee and sucking Naruto's soul at the same time?


Bold 2- Shinra Tensei does not only go certain ways...it can go 360° all round. If you cant seem to recall it then look back at what happened to Konoha. Doesnt matter if it was large or not, it can still be used on a smaller scale, eg fight between Deva Path vs Kakashi and Chouji's dad etc. You dont need to see your target for Shinra Tensei to hit...


Bold 3- You obviously failed to see my point there when I mentioned about Human Path and Preta Path being activated while in Bringer of Darkness. The whole point of Bringer of Darkness is to blind the enemy so they cant see you attacking...this is why having Human, Asura and Preta Path activated comes in handy as Nagato wouldnt have to do anything but wait for Hashirama to attack, whether its ninjutsu or any weapons.

 

[Out Of Ctrl]

He could use any other Mokuton technique that we simply don't know anything about, it's not necessarily going to be a known Jutsu..

It's like taking off one of Nagato's powers, and then say "how can Nagato evade a 1000 Shuriken attack at the same time?" if we didn't know anything about Shinra Tensei then we would have count him dead, right..? but because we know about Shinra Tensei then we'll simply say that "he'll obviously going to deflect all of these 1000 Shuriken in just one Shinra Tensei blow.."

It's logically the same goes to Hashirama.. when Nagato uses Chibaku Tensei, Hashirama might have a technique to block that away.. so it's really unfair comparison as I said before as we lack more information about Hashirama's power to give more precise speculations.

Even if we havent see any other jutsu's from Hashirama, his main arsenal of weapon was Mokuton. Now even Mokuton can be absorbed by Nagato, in fact any other Ninjutsu techniques can be. Why? Because of Preta path abilities. You are simply over looking the abilities of Rinnegan, I suggest you to carefully think of all Nagato's abilities and you will come to a conclusion that all of Hashirama's jutsu's and techniques can be countered. Giving Hashirama other unkown jutsu's is pure speculation as that can go for Nagato as well.

Hashirama doesnt stand a chance of winning as long as his opponent is a Rinnegan user with high chakra reserves.