1st Hokage vs Akatsuki (pairs)

[blazekev90]

Itachi has great speed to dodge wood, kisame has samehada to eat the chakra out of it and break it with brute strength, if he grows too much to do that they always have MS techniques and kisame can swim through the ground to get close, don't think kisame could get the 1st underwater though. Im not saying its an easy win for either of them but it'd be a hell of a fight.

Unless oro uses 8 branches technique along with sasori's kazekage puppet i don't think either of them could overpower high level wood

yeah pretty much with H/K

If Itachi and kisame combined their techniques as you put it, they would have a good chance. But what about posison flowers and total darkness technique?? I do know kisame fused becomes a señor-type

I forgot about 8 branch technique o_0 but this alone with his sword traveling around cutting wood would be interesting but not enough

 

[Blaze Release]

I was waiting for a post like this, as expected Blaze lol.

D and Sasori would cause problem, but as I said before I think Sasori would be the weak link. Sasori lacks strong enough defense to fend off wood release, unless D picks him up, but even then wat else would he do, Iron Sand? On the other hand D has the tools to make the 1st struggle, but his lack of intelligence and him being over confident would be his dwn fall.

Pein and Konon would be really good, but I see majority of them getting caught by poison from that flower, leaving God realm standing. Also, we've seen Pein get caught my genjutsu, total darkness would leave them blind lol

Hidan and Kakuzu, I can't even consider them lol

Do you know what deidora alone can solo hashirama and anybody who tries me better be ready because ive great reasons for saying this. Any unworthy post will be ignored because im not wasting my time.

Anyway Blazekev you forget that sasori his true form can fly do the fans on his back. We also know that his chakra strings is connected to his chest. He can control his 200+ puppets from his chest in his true form whilst flying. We know that c4 isnt affecting him either.

Deidora and sasori should beat him.

Btw i didnt know that dead bodies get affected by poison?. Im sure the paths are immune to poison or am i missing something?.

 

[Ambriel]

Deidara could win by c4
Itachi by genjutsu
Pain cuz there stronger

 

[blazekev90]

Do you know what deidora alone can solo hashirama and anybody who tries me better be ready because ive great reasons for saying this. Any unworthy post will be ignored because im not wasting my time.

Anyway Blazekev you forget that sasori his true form can fly do the fans on his back. We also know that his chakra strings is connected to his chest. He can control his 200+ puppets from his chest in his true form whilst flying. We know that c4 isnt affecting him either.

Deidora and sasori should beat him.

Btw i didnt know that dead bodies get affected by poison?. Im sure the paths are immune to poison or am i missing something?.

Good shyt, I did forget the Sasori could fly himself, idk how high but koo. Those tho....I don't see that doing nt, they were fragil as hell and we've seen the distribution of wood release! All the puppets found fall. But plz enlighten me on D owning, I'm curious to hear this lol

Im not sure, I'm assuming it depends on what the pollen can do 0_o

Btw don't forget his genjutsu, just figured I'd remind (I know u didn't forget)

 

[Vin Thora]

Do you know what deidora alone can solo hashirama and anybody who tries me better be ready because ive great reasons for saying this. Any unworthy post will be ignored because im not wasting my time.

Ill try you. WTF has Deidara got in his arsenal that could even scratch Hashirama? Id say next to nothing. Other than blowing himself up, which is automatic defeat. Hashirama's wood release is soooooo much stronger than Yamato's and Yamato could defend himself pretty well, from the shockwaves of a bijuu bomb( I think).

Hash has genjutsu, which Deidara is vulnerable to. Bringer of Darkness= end of Deidara.

Let the games begin.

 

[omojojo]

Hashirama is very powerful, nobody konws his full power, he single handedly defected madara nd the nine tail beast at ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊. same time... Wood element isn't only ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊. Justu hashirama av got!... Remember he is compare wf ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊. Sage of ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊. Path nd Иø other ninja is at ‎​D̶̲̥̅̊. Same level as hashirama... Evn madara said he respected him yhoh he hates him so much.. ‎​ fink Иø akasuki pair cnt stand against him.. He is intelligent too

 

[Blaze Release]

Ill try you. WTF has Deidara got in his arsenal that could even scratch Hashirama? Id say next to nothing. Other than blowing himself up, which is automatic defeat. Hashirama's wood release is soooooo much stronger than Yamato's and Yamato could defend himself pretty well, from the shockwaves of a bijuu bomb( I think).

Hash has genjutsu, which Deidara is vulnerable to. Bringer of Darkness= end of Deidara.

Let the games begin.

Not good enough. Bringer of darkness is short to mid range.
Isnt having an effect on a long range fight

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C2 and 3 should which are bombs should destroy wood for obvious reasons. But you see, deidora gains abit of immunity since he can fly.

You say what does deidora have in his arsenal which that can even scratch hashirama.
C4 wouldnt scratch hashirama you are right. It will kill him. Off course unless he has a doujutsu or lightning based attacks. Depends on whether deidora will have the time to use it though, if he does he wins

 

[blazekev90]

Not good enough. Bringer of darkness is short to mid range.
Isnt having an effect on a long range fight

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C2 and 3 should which are bombs should destroy wood for obvious reasons. But you see, deidora gains abit of immunity since he can fly.

You say what does deidora have in his arsenal which that can even scratch hashirama.
C4 wouldnt scratch hashirama you are right. It will kill him. Off course unless he has a doujutsu or lightning based attacks

One thing, since all of D's techniques are chakra fused, wouldn't his techniques for the most part be useless since wood release surpasses chakra???

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

One thing, since all of D's techniques are chakra fused, wouldn't his techniques for the most part be useless since wood release surpasses chakra???

Its only been shown to surpress Bijuu chakra iirc

If Itachi and kisame combined their techniques as you put it, they would have a good chance. But what about posison flowers and total darkness technique?? I do know kisame fused becomes a señor-type

I forgot about 8 branch technique o_0 but this alone with his sword traveling around cutting wood would be interesting but not enough

Problem is,would the poison go through susanoo?Since the poison is made of chakra (i assume) Itachi can see it like sasuke could see Deidara's microbombs and giving him and kisame knowledge to avoid it.But samehada also heals Kisame so between that and his naturally high durability who knows how long it would take for poison to affect kisame in a noticable way. Total darkness would only be a problem for kisame since itachi has a mastered sharingan he can see past most genjutsu and kisame could break it with pain like he broke the mind-reading jutsu just before his suicide.

 

[Blaze Release]

One thing, since all of D's techniques are chakra fused, wouldn't his techniques for the most part be useless since wood release surpasses chakra???

First of all im sure mokouton doesnt automatically suppress chakra, its the user that has to do this. Secondly i hardly doubt it can suppress chakra in technique. Bombs should detonate in no time.

Didnt exactly stop Naruto rasengan nor Oonoki's dust release

 

[LolaxXx]

The 1st. Not only would Rep, title, and badassetry would be on his side.
But dude has been through battle after battle, with many clans, including uchiha, he's gone up against many sharingan, And went up against EMS, alongside Karama.

I dont think any akatsuki is up to par with Hashirama. Maybe all of them together? But then again...I imagine all of them vs him would be like him vs a group of uchiha in the past. Imm assume Hashirama would own, but for sure the question will never be truthfully answered

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Not good enough. Bringer of darkness is short to mid range.
Isnt having an effect on a long range fight

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C2 and 3 should which are bombs should destroy wood for obvious reasons. But you see, deidora gains abit of immunity since he can fly.

You say what does deidora have in his arsenal which that can even scratch hashirama.
C4 wouldnt scratch hashirama you are right. It will kill him. Off course unless he has a doujutsu or lightning based attacks. Depends on whether deidora will have the time to use it though, if he does he wins

Only problem i would see for deidara is Hashirama's Wood range, even if Deidara is flying would Hashirama be able to grow giant branches and stuff to catch him, even Edo Hashirama was able to make large trees grow very quickly so would living Hashirama might be able to catch deidara in the air?

If hashirama doesn't know about the microbombs i could easily see that winning the fight assuming he gets to use it.

 

[blazekev90]

Its only been shown to surpress Bijuu chakra iirc


Problem is,would the poison go through susanoo?Since the poison is made of chakra (i assume) Itachi can see it like sasuke could see Deidara's microbombs and giving him and kisame knowledge to avoid it.But samehada also heals Kisame so between that and his naturally high durability who knows how long it would take for poison to affect kisame in a noticable way. Total darkness would only be a problem for kisame since itachi has a mastered sharingan he can see past most genjutsu and kisame could break it with pain like he broke the mind-reading jutsu just before his suicide.

Yamto was also using it to surpass Kisames chakra as well

This being said, susanoo could suffer from this as well.

(btw I'm about to head into work, be back after 8 tonight)

 

[Flame Alchemist]

pain and konan has a huge chance.
itachi and kisame also has a chance but it's weak.
sasori and orochimaru has a really really weak chance.
rest is done for

 

[Blaze Release]

Only problem i would see for deidara is Hashirama's Wood range, even if Deidara is flying would Hashirama be able to grow giant branches and stuff to catch him, even Edo Hashirama was able to make large trees grow very quickly so would living Hashirama might be able to catch deidara in the air?

If hashirama doesn't know about the microbombs i could easily see that winning the fight assuming he gets to use it.

But you see deidora on his clay bird is noted to fairly fast unless you believe hashirama can catch up to him. Besides we dont know the range of his wood release, whether it can catch deidora in the air i dont think so.

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Now im not saying deidora will win for sure because only kishi knows this. What i am saying is some abilities dont suit others and this could lead to an inferior ninja defeating a stronger ninja

 

[Nonomi]

not suree..

 

[Professor Sarutobi]

Yamto was also using it to surpass Kisames chakra as well

This being said, susanoo could suffer from this as well.

(btw I'm about to head into work, be back after 8 tonight)

Forgot about that since Kisame powered out of it like a boss xd

Would it be able to stop his other 2 ms moves tho

 

[blazekev90]

Forgot about that since Kisame powered out of it like a boss xd

Would it be able to stop his other 2 ms moves tho

Yea Kisame used Raw strength
which other 2 exactly??

 

[blazekev90]

First of all im sure mokouton doesnt automatically suppress chakra, its the user that has to do this. Secondly i hardly doubt it can suppress chakra in technique. Bombs should detonate in no time.

Didnt exactly stop Naruto rasengan nor Oonoki's dust release

i know it wouldnt to it from a single take, but D's bombs usually take form of some shape, its not instantly used unlike regular techniques, which should allow the 1st to wrap the and surpass them before they explode

 

[Fire fist]

Only 2 pairs that I see having some chance:
nagato and konan and
itachi and oro