Nagato vs Hashirama

[Fighter2011]

So I want to now what the base thinks... after seeing the latest chapter, Hashirama's hype has gone to an all time high, however, i still believe that Nagato beats him. The massive Shinra Tensei he used against Konoha, and Chibaku Tensei would be the deciding factors. What do you guys think?

 

[Murderous Intent]

Obviously you have to be joking.

Because, if Nagano uses that shinra tensei he used on that same scale.
He would no longer be able to use his trump card "god pein" for about 30 mins.

He is not dodging the mokuton abilities, neither is he going to be able to get out of the genjutsu that he casted on the third, (which disables the link between all his puppets)

So far the mokuton we have seen Madara use is impressive.
I'm pretty sure that the first hokage is at that level or even a tier higher at using mokuton.

Nagato can not beat ems Madara,
So how do you expect him to beat hashirama who has the genes of the sage's body? Huge amounts of chakra, and stamina enable hashirama to win this fight relatively comfortably.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Obviously you have to be joking.

Because, if Nagano uses that shinra tensei he used on that same scale.
He would no longer be able to use his trump card "god pein" for about 30 mins.

He is not dodging the mokuton abilities, neither is he going to be able to get out of the genjutsu that he casted on the third, (which disables the link between all his puppets)

So far the mokuton we have seen Madara use is impressive.
I'm pretty sure that the first hokage is at that level or even a tier higher at using mokuton.

Nagato can not beat ems Madara,
So how do you expect him to beat hashirama who has the genes of the sage's body? Huge amounts of chakra, and stamina enable hashirama to win this fight relatively comfortably.

Nagato>>>>>ems madara

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Obviously you have to be joking.

Because, if Nagano uses that shinra tensei he used on that same scale.
He would no longer be able to use his trump card "god pein" for about 30 mins.

He is not dodging the mokuton abilities, neither is he going to be able to get out of the genjutsu that he casted on the third, (which disables the link between all his puppets)

So far the mokuton we have seen Madara use is impressive.
I'm pretty sure that the first hokage is at that level or even a tier higher at using mokuton.

Nagato can not beat ems Madara,
So how do you expect him to beat hashirama who has the genes of the sage's body? Huge amounts of chakra, and stamina enable hashirama to win this fight relatively comfortably.

I stopped reading right about there. I disagree 100%.

 

[x9lb babynaruto]

Prime Nagato > Hashirama IMO all we saw was an old decrepid nagato and he completely shit on konoha and while in his prime it took 3 of the strongest ninjas in the series(one of them being Edo and having legendary weapons) so yeah my vote goes for Prime nagato if its old nagato id prob give it to hashi

 

[Murderous Intent]

I stopped reading right about there. I disagree 100%.

Explain to me, how ems Madara loses.. :-/

 

[Murderous Intent]

Prime Nagato > Hashirama IMO all we saw was an old decrepid nagato and he completely shit on konoha and while in his prime it took 3 of the strongest ninjas in the series(one of them being Edo and having legendary weapons) so yeah my vote goes for Prime nagato if its old nagato id prob give it to hashi

Prime Nagato ? Prime? . We are not using that Edo tensei version of Nagato we saw because then we would have to compare it with Edo Madara.

Btw, the fight vs Nagato didn't last that long considering bee and naruto didn't really do anything.

Ems Madara vs normal 6 pain Nagato. That is all

 

[Tosen]

Hashirama = just the body

Nagato= Body + eyes = Mini sage of 6 paths

tell me who wins????

Every fanboy has his day, just a day ago people were calling out hashirama for being weak agaisnt old hiruzen and now his getting overrated.

 

[Sporticus100]

Hashirama wins hands down. I also agree with Murderous Intent, EMS Madara would defeat Nagato will very little trouble. Why would Madara have given Nagato the Rinnegan if he believed that Nagato would be more powerful than him and thus pose a huge threat to him?

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Explain to me, how ems Madara loses.. :-/

Amaterasu gets absorbed or repelled.

Any ninjutsu gets absorbed or repelled.

Taijutsu is stupid because Nagato can use his Asura path to get metal skin and shoot rockets, etc. out of his body.

Moving in close is also dumb as Nagato can steal his soul with Naraka (?) path.

And then there is normal shinra tensei, chibaku tensei, and that insanely huge shinra tensei, which does not take Deva out for 30 minutes but instead takes him out for a little bit over five minutes.

Naruto had 5 minutes in Sage mode per clone during that fight and Deva was ready to go before the first clone was summoned.

And then there is all the summons, such as that Gedo Mazo dragon soul stealing thing where the dragons just need to touch you and you die. No one can survive that jutsu.

The only reason Itachi beat Nagato was because he had the Yata mirror and Totsuka sword. Without the Totsuka sword, Bee, Naruto, and Itachi would still be fighting Nagato right now.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

Hashirama wins hands down. I also agree with Murderous Intent, EMS Madara would defeat Nagato will very little trouble. Why would Madara have given Nagato the Rinnegan if he believed that Nagato would be more powerful than him and thus pose a huge threat to him?

Nagato>ems madara rinnengan>ems

 

[shisuimirage42]

Obviously you have to be joking.

Because, if Nagano uses that shinra tensei he used on that same scale.
He would no longer be able to use his trump card "god pein" for about 30 mins.

He is not dodging the mokuton abilities, neither is he going to be able to get out of the genjutsu that he casted on the third, (which disables the link between all his puppets)

So far the mokuton we have seen Madara use is impressive.
I'm pretty sure that the first hokage is at that level or even a tier higher at using mokuton.

Nagato can not beat ems Madara,
So how do you expect him to beat hashirama who has the genes of the sage's body? Huge amounts of chakra, and stamina enable hashirama to win this fight relatively comfortably.

nagato doesnt face the limitations he did if your talking about edo healthy nagato.

 

[Minator93]

First thing First

Nagato >> EMS Madara

Now with that monstrous hype I'll say Hashirama > Nagato but with a thin margin.

 

[shisuimirage42]

Nagato>ems madara rinnengan>ems

that is complete BS, there i no way in hell nagato could beat edo ems rinnegan madara. and not to mention madara has hashirama powers as well.are u kidding me? lol

 

[Sporticus100]

Nagato>ems madara rinnengan>ems

That's nice and all, but Madara has the Rinnegan. I would love to comment further, but there doesn't seem to be much of an argument.

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

that is complete BS, there i no way in hell nagato could beat edo ems rinnegan madara. and not to mention madara has hashirama powers as well.are u kidding me? lol

I said nagato>ems madara
Cause rinnengan>ems

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

That's nice and all, but Madara has the Rinnegan. I would love to comment further, but there doesn't seem to be much of an argument.

Yea but i am talking about ems madara cause some1 said he is better than nagato

 

[shisuimirage42]

I said nagato>ems madara
Cause rinnengan>ems

ooo i got ya, i apologize.

well in that case i agree if its just madara with ems and no hashirama powers.

 

[Ryuu..]

If it's Nagato (all paths in one body) I actually can't choose (don't see how he's dodging Mokuton though). If it's Pain then Hashirama wins.

 

[Vexorian]

For all intensive purposes, Nagato gets fully awakened, but does not get Edo Tensei. I believe this is quite seriously a draw, Shinra Tensei beats the flowers/pollen......I would still be tempted to give it to Hashirama due to the sheer scale of his Mokuton, he can produce entire forests in seconds, I'm not so sure that Nagato can win against that. I'll wait to give analyze this fight and give my decision.