who can beat naruto and sasuke at their same age

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He did not master sage modee because he cannot fuse with ma and pa to do full sage mode jutsu like toad sounds
Kurama provide naruto with that speed because it a fox ,which is a fast creature
I sure there are better ninjutsu available than that

Ma and Pa can cast their sound genjutsu (did against Pain) but they can't fuse with Naruto BUT he has Kage Bunshin to get SM back instantly.

The ninjutsu I am talking about his Naruto's TBB.
 

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He did not master sage modee because he cannot fuse with ma and pa to do full sage mode jutsu like toad sounds
Kurama provide naruto with that speed because it a fox ,which is a fast creature
I sure there are better ninjutsu available than that
macho, perfect sage mode doesn't include ma and pa

its if you can master sage chakra without having any signs of turning into a frog.. J man couldnt do this

and Naruto can, making his sage mode perfect
 

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Yes case closed for you bro, go back to bed kid.

Even if you say Sasuke has beaten Naruto once which is false. It was when they were younger now it changed cannot you see it or are you blind ?

Naruto is just simply way more powerful than Sasuke right now.

- 9 Tails Perfect Jinchuuriki
- Uzumaki/Senju
- Sage mode mastered
- Has the most powerful ninjutsu
- Fastest Shinobi alive.
- Immune to Genjutsu
- Best Sensor-Ninja

So mad bro.


- 9 Tails Perfect Jinchuuriki- That is true, though Naruto is going to have to somehow increase the time he could spend in BM. Perhaps by going on it more often when he can.

- Uzumaki/Senju- He is an Uzumaki.

- Sage mode mastered- He doesn't have it mastered, but he did find a shortcut to it by using his shadow clones.

- Has the most powerful ninjutsu- With Kurama, I would say that it's TBB. That techniques' weakness is against Rinnegan users though. It's pure chakra so no matter how people put it, it's completely vulnerable to Preta Path. As of right now, Sasuke doesn't have the Rinnegan so Naruto triumphs for now.

- Fastest Shinobi alive- Yes.

- Immune to Genjutsu-Not completely immune. He could still get caught in it but Kurama would simply break him out of it.

- Best Sensor-Ninja- I'm not so sure about that. All I know is that he's a sensor when he enters SM. He senses evil intent when he's in KM or BM.


Naruto>Sasuke from what we've seen so far.

In overall power. BM Naruto surpasses Nagato. BM > SM on certain occasions. Though against Nagato, SM would make a better match up since BM is purely chakra based so if any of its chakra based techniques are used to either attack from a long distance, they will be absorbed. If he tryes to blitz Nagato, he would meet the same fate as Bee when he tryed to use lariat on him.

Naruto needs to SM to win against Nagato. Either it be with clones or with himself. Other than that, if the fight is only with BM, then sorry to say but I highly doubt that he's going to win. Even if Naruto is overally stronger than Nagato now and could probably overpower his Deva Path and destroy his Chibaku Tensei alone, he's still vulnerable to Preta Path.

Without Preta Path, then Naruto using BM alone would beat Nagato. But with Preta Path, Naruto's chakra based techniques or chakra itself, if Naruto tryes to blitz him, would get absorbed.

Though Nagato seemed to be around Naruto's age when he used Gedo Mazou on Hanzo and his men. It seemed like Nagato didn't know how to use the 6 paths at the time.

So pitting Naruto against anyone who was 16 years old, Naruto would win.

And just to let you know, you shouldn't compare Naruto and Kurama with Sasuke and his sharingan when it comes to their own power. Kurama isn't part of Naruto's own power, Kurama's just an ally who helps Naruto when he needs it. Sasuke's sharingan is something he genetically inherited, therefore that power belongs to him.

Though if his Sharingan itself were to have a mind of its own, then I would say that it's really borrowed power.
 
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- Uzumaki/Senju- He is an Uzumaki.

- Best Sensor-Ninja- I'm not so sure about that. All I know is that he's a sensor when he enters SM. He senses evil intent when he's in KM or BM.


Naruto>Sasuke from what we've seen so far.
Uzumaki are related to Senju directly, and as we can see Naruto earned both Uzumaki and Senju traits.

There's lot of threads about that and we all agreed to Naruto being the best sensor ninja.

Agree with that

+rep for your long reply I love having this kind of feedback
 

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Uzumaki are related to Senju directly, and as we can see Naruto earned both Uzumaki and Senju traits.

There's lot of threads about that and we all agreed to Naruto being the best sensor ninja.

Agree with that

+rep for your long reply I love having this kind of feedback



I guess you're right with him being related with Senju which would explain him having the same fate since he's supposed to fight Sasuke. Uchiha vs. Senju.

Though there might be alot of threads about him being the best sensor, I wouldn't completely rely on that since the people who agreed to it don't work with Masashi Kishimoto himself. It's just a thought and opinion since we didn't get to see every sensor's full capabilities. Take Muu for example, I still don't know what the full extent of his sensor abilities are. Muu wasn't able to dodge some techniques despite being a sensor because he didn't seem to have the speed Naruto has to use his sensing capabilities to his fullest when it comes to dodging.

Whether Naruto is the best sensor is unknown but he does seem to have an edge in dodging by his combination of sensing+speed.
 

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macho, perfect sage mode doesn't include ma and pa

its if you can master sage chakra without having any signs of turning into a frog.. J man couldnt do this

and Naruto can, making his sage mode perfect

Naruto perfected sage mode further more than Jaraiya. But the fact that Naruto's eyes do gain frog-like features means that he hasn't compltetely mastered it. Even if it is just by a bit. Naruto created a short-cut to his SM by using his shadow clones to gather SM chakra for him to give him the edge during battle. He hasn't mastered it though but he made it more effective.
 
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