Im currently doing something more important and decided to see whats up. She didnt beat kabuto in taijutsu?. I beg to differ;
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He knew better than to try taijutsu with her. Secondly going up against her, he had firstly take a solider fill but also use ninjutsu insetad (medical).
Both gai and tsunade have a 5/5 in taijutsu but i agree that gai is faster. But means very little against somebody who can create a gap between you and them in an instant. Afterall isnt gai a close combat fighter;
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Lets not forget that gai in base isnt doing damage to tsunade and will need his gates to do damage. But there is a problem. Even though gai in gates will serevely damage tsuande, he will not be able to kill her (weakened kisame wasnt exactly dead). Secondly she can heal herself from life threatening injuries;
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We all know how taxing the gates are on gai and after he has used it it has a negative effect on him. If his attacks in gates doesnt kill tsunade (which i believe it wouldnt) and she regenerates gai is at a great disadvantage. His speed, reaction time and stamina is all decreased allowing a rejuvenated tsuande to wipe the floor with him. Wonder how this technique would fair on gai;
oh blaze ive been waiting for you too come
1. that was pre part 1 kabuto who knows how much his taijutsu has improved since then i highly doubt now tsunade can take on kabuto when his in this form.
2. gai is a close combat fighter? true but he also has long distance moves like the one he used with kisame
3. negative taxes link me where it shows gai heavily exhausted or any thing of the sort after he used the gates from what i have seen he looks a bit tired but he still pretty ok.
4.i hate to say it but in my opinion kisame> tsuanade and who saids he wont kill her ?
Yh ok and you think Tsunade was capable of stopping the destruction: Ok at least tell me something that Tsunade has done to be Kage approved. A kage should at least be able to hold their own.
Lol there you go you resort to repeating that argument of yours. And that was the whole point of me asking you that question, the point was nobody wouldve been able to stop that destruction. Maybe one or two people but granted the village would eventually be destroyed. Who can stop a large scale out of reach Shinra Tensei? U_U
And if you really did understand the concept of the plot then you will realise that Tsunade was probably chosen because of her status as the Sanin, seeing as Jiraiya rejected the offer in the past. She was chosen as there wasnt anyone else strong enough at the time and please dont even mention Kakashi. And as I said earlier she didnt have feats that made her chosen for kage but she earned it later on during the Pain invasion arc.
Tsunade is not much of a fighter and shouldn't be considered kage level. She is the best medical ninja out there however but in battle prowess not so much. She got owned by Kabuto (lol seriously).
What feats does she hold besides healing people that make her kage level?(Besides Breast)
I lol'd at the fact she had the audacity to step to Pein
She should be running a hospital instead of a village.
100% percent agreed, she only became kage because Orochimaru went rogue, Jiraiya didn't want the title because he couldn't save Orochimaru. Kakashi didn't want it also for the same reason as Jiraiya, and the only reason why Naruto has become one yet is because he is too immature to "sign papers".
The point she getting beat by Kabuto, who is considered to have crappy taijutsu, and she being completely helpless against Pein only proves this even further :flaw:
Lol there you go you resort to repeating that argument of yours. And that was the whole point of me asking you that question, the point was nobody wouldve been able to stop that destruction. Maybe one or two people but granted the village would eventually be destroyed. Who can stop a large scale out of reach Shinra Tensei?
What are you arguing with me for sounds like you're agreeing. Shinra Tensei destroyed the village and yes I don't think ninjas would have stopped it. She did a good job protecting the villagers with her summonings. Is that really a kage level feat? No.
And if you really did understand the concept of the plot then you will realise that Tsunade was probably chosen because of her status as the Sanin, seeing as Jiraiya rejected the offer in the past. She was chosen as there wasnt anyone else strong enough at the time and please dont even mention Kakashi. And as I said earlier she didnt have feats that made her chosen for kage but she earned it later on during the Pain invasion arc.
You all forget that she invented the medical corps. Without her Kakashi, Guy, Naruto none of these high ninjas would be alive because there would be no one to heal them. It would just be countless death and destruction. With her Chakra level and knowledge of poison she is at least high jonin level, which is where all kage come from. The village may have been destroyed but thats not what matters
What are you arguing with me for sounds like you're agreeing. Shinra Tensei destroyed the village and yes I don't think ninjas would have stopped it. She did a good job protecting the villagers with her summonings. Is that really a kage level feat? No.
I understand it perfect why she was chosen. Saving a couple of lives isn't kage material. Many ninjas do that.
Im currently doing something more important and decided to see whats up. She didnt beat kabuto in taijutsu?. I beg to differ;
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He knew better than to try taijutsu with her. Secondly going up against her, he had firstly take a solider fill but also use ninjutsu insetad (medical).
Both gai and tsunade have a 5/5 in taijutsu but i agree that gai is faster. But means very little against somebody who can create a gap between you and them in an instant. Afterall isnt gai a close combat fighter;
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Lets not forget that gai in base isnt doing damage to tsunade and will need his gates to do damage. But there is a problem. Even though gai in gates will serevely damage tsuande, he will not be able to kill her (weakened kisame wasnt exactly dead). Secondly she can heal herself from life threatening injuries;
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We all know how taxing the gates are on gai and after he has used it it has a negative effect on him. If his attacks in gates doesnt kill tsunade (which i believe it wouldnt) and she regenerates gai is at a great disadvantage. His speed, reaction time and stamina is all decreased allowing a rejuvenated tsuande to wipe the floor with him. Wonder how this technique would fair on gai;
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Ill say it again tsunade > gai with mid to high difficulty
lol no. Gai was able to remain in six gates for long that is after a day of fighting in the war, and gai and itachi are the only person that have a 5 in speed in the whole of 3rd databook while tsunade has a 3, the gap is just too much not to reflect on their taijutsu clash infact tsunade won't touch him. Gai may not extremely damage tsunade but i doubt tsunade can tank a blow from 6 gated gai w/o resortin to creation rebirth.
I loved how you didn't mention how tsunade will counter gai strongest attack. Tsunade can never survive afternoon tiger or morning peacock. And don't bring creation rebirth into this cause she always active it after damage which won't be possible against gai strongest attack
oh blaze ive been waiting for you too come
1. that was pre part 1 kabuto who knows how much his taijutsu has improved since then i highly doubt now tsunade can take on kabuto when his in this form.
2. gai is a close combat fighter? true but he also has long distance moves like the one he used with kisame
3. negative taxes link me where it shows gai heavily exhausted or any thing of the sort after he used the gates from what i have seen he looks a bit tired but he still pretty ok.
4.i hate to say it but in my opinion kisame> tsuanade and who saids he wont kill her ?
I'll bring up a few reasons why most of you are ridiculous.
1. Tsunade fought Kabuto and more or less lost to him yes. At the time he was a ninja of Kakashi-level power, which you guys forget. However, at the same time, she had to save chakra in case Orochimaru decided to get involved. She can't go all out against Kabuto and waste her energy in case Orochimaru decided he was bored. Orochimaru is a bad match up for Tsunade due to the fact that he can regenerate against her punches and she does not have a ninjutsu to stop that.
2. Kakashi beat Asura Path. I agree that Kakashi is Kage-level which most of you dumbasses don't realize, he was about ONE second from being promoted to Kage, but we can't pretend he didn't face possibly the weakest or one of the weakest paths, and I'm talking about Asura Path, not the short skirmish with Deva. Kakashi also had enough skill to successfully take out Asura Path ALONG with some help from Deva Path. Kakashi had Asura Path pretty much beat but interference from the strongest Path made it hard for him to do.
So Jiraiya takes out a Path four times (if you include the fact that he took out the three bodies plus Animal Path twice). Tsunade should be able to take out at least two weaker paths.
So Tsunade didn't fight. But she is also the ONLY ninja that would be able to stop a complete massacre of Konoha. If she were to fight Pain and win (LOL!), what would be the point of being Kage of a village that doesn't exist anymore? The point was she had to stop the annihilation of Konoha. After Pains invasion, Kumogakure became the leading power. Pain really put his Rinnegan **** inside of Konoha and ****ed it.
You all forget that she invented the medical corps. Without her Kakashi, Guy, Naruto none of these high ninjas would be alive because there would be no one to heal them. It would just be countless death and destruction. With her Chakra level and knowledge of poison she is at least high jonin level, which is where all kage come from. The village may have been destroyed but thats not what matters
we all know none of us are saying otherwise we knew shes op in med jutsu thats why were saying she would be better off running a hospital or something 24/7
oh blaze ive been waiting for you too come
1. that was pre part 1 kabuto who knows how much his taijutsu has improved since then i highly doubt now tsunade can take on kabuto when his in this form.
2. gai is a close combat fighter? true but he also has long distance moves like the one he used with kisame
3. negative taxes link me where it shows gai heavily exhausted or any thing of the sort after he used the gates from what i have seen he looks a bit tired but he still pretty ok.
4.i hate to say it but in my opinion kisame> tsuanade and who saids he wont kill her ?
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1. That was part 1 kabuto, so?. He said tsuande couldnt beat him in taijutsu and i proved him wrong. Regardless kabuto's taijutsu in part 2 isnt that great either and gets a 3.5/5;
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2. If its noon tiger you are talking about, it was a close combat move.
3. Its already been said in part 1 that the after the use of the gates, the user feels its drawbacks.
4. I agree kisame > tsuande, but this is gai vs tsuande. Gai's taijutsu arent enough to kill tsuande
lol no. Gai was able to remain in six gates for long that is after a day of fighting in the war, and gai and itachi are the only person that have a 5 in speed in the whole of 3rd databook while tsunade has a 3, the gap is just too much not to reflect on their taijutsu clash infact tsunade won't touch him. Gai may not extremely damage tsunade but i doubt tsunade can tank a blow from 6 gated gai w/o resortin to creation rebirth.
I loved how you didn't mention how tsunade will counter gai strongest attack. Tsunade can never survive afternoon tiger or morning peacock. And don't bring creation rebirth into this cause she always active it after damage which won't be possible against gai strongest attack
Gai-sensei is a freakin beast, he took out the tailless Bijuu, a.k.a Kisame (even if he didn't have Samehada with him) all by himself, my respect level for him went over 9000!! after that event.
Not only that, his body is soo durable that he didn't even look too tired after opening those gates for a long duration of time, talk about badass
after using the 7 gates, its a possibility the more gates he uses the more tired and pain he feels for example lets say he uses 3 or 4 gates the pain and tiredness probably wouldnt be as much compared to using 7 gates. so the number of gates he uses determines how much pain/tiredness he faces
lol no. Gai was able to remain in six gates for long that is after a day of fighting in the war, and gai and itachi are the only person that have a 5 in speed in the whole of 3rd databook while tsunade has a 3, the gap is just too much not to reflect on their taijutsu clash infact tsunade won't touch him. Gai may not extremely damage tsunade but i doubt tsunade can tank a blow from 6 gated gai w/o resortin to creation rebirth.
I loved how you didn't mention how tsunade will counter gai strongest attack. Tsunade can never survive afternoon tiger or morning peacock. And don't bring creation rebirth into this cause she always active it after damage which won't be possible against gai strongest attack
Already showed you how she can increase the gap between the two.
Already admitted that gai's is faster and with this would be hard to hit/counter gai. But base gai taijutsu isnt doing damage and will need gates. Gates isnt killing tsuande either and as i said after the use of gates will gai's speed, reflex and stamina decrease and this is when tsuande will feast on him
You all forget that she invented the medical corps. Without her Kakashi, Guy, Naruto none of these high ninjas would be alive because there would be no one to heal them. It would just be countless death and destruction. With her Chakra level and knowledge of poison she is at least high jonin level, which is where all kage come from. The village may have been destroyed but thats not what matters
What are you arguing with me for sounds like you're agreeing. Shinra Tensei destroyed the village and yes I don't think ninjas would have stopped it. She did a good job protecting the villagers with her summonings. Is that really a kage level feat? No.
I understand it perfect why she was chosen. Saving a couple of lives isn't kage material. Many ninjas do that.
Lol mate do you have mug written on your forehead or something? I'm arguing with you is because you talked as if any other kages couldve stopped the village from utter destruction. And what is this 'kage level feat' that you keep going on about? Is there a rule book that applies universally whether a feat could be classed as kage level or not?
Bold: She didnt save a couple of lives, she protected and saved almost the entire villagers with her slugs. Many ninjas cant do that, infact let me ask you another question, name one kage who can offer protection from harm and death at the very same time? Ok I dont think you have mug written on your forehead, I do. If saving lives of your villagers isnt Kage material then I dont know what is U_U. Its not always about combat.
Do you see the point I'm getting at? If not then I'll elaborate it for your somewhat thick skull as you obviously dont see the entire picture, feats are different and special on their own way upon comparison upon one another.
we all know none of us are saying otherwise we knew shes op in med jutsu thats why were saying she would be better off running a hospital or something 24/7
But why are you saying that she isn't an effective hokage, and last time I checked she was running the hospital. She is doing what a hokage does, sending ninjas on missions, filling out the paperwork etc. What has she done in your eyes that doesn't deserve the title of Kage?
Already showed you how she can increase the gap between the two.
Already admitted that gai's is faster and with this would be hard to hit/counter gai. But base gai taijutsu isnt doing damage and will need gates. Gates isnt killing tsuande either and as i said after the use of gates will gai's speed, reflex and stamina decrease and this is when tsuande will feast on him
