[Discussion] You can have Susanoo activated without having MS or EMS turned on

[prince of zamunda]

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Here Itachi is seen with Susanoo activated but no MS nor sharingan in his eyes.

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Here Madara is seen with Susanoo activated but with rinnegan.

I think Susanoo is some form of izanami where the user takes their imagination/spiritual form and then administers physical/vitality energy to Susanno. This is why Susanoo looks different depending on the user's imagination/spiritual form. Tsukuyomi= imagination + spritual Amaterasu= physical + vitality you must have both techs in order to use Susanoo. I think once activating MS you can use Susanno without MS being turned on.

I don't have any valid proof this is just a thought i had when looking at Iatchi's eyes when he used Susanoo on Sasuke. You could argue he was going blind but if his eyes lost it's light then how was he able to use MS tech Susanoo

 

[Naruto N. Uzumaki]

1st pic his eyes are fading but still ems i think and second madara had susanoo active before he want to rinnegan so it just stayed

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

his ms was active but he was so blind the iris didn't appear read the wiki

 

[-The Agent-]

That's a good point. But I think it requires that you activate them at least one point in time during a battle. Itachi had his activated, but he went blind by the time he was using Susano'o. Same with Madara, he had his EMS activated used Susano'o then progressed to the Rinnegan.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

susannoo is the god of the sea brother to amaterasu and tsykuyomi

 

[Megamkfan]

I think itachi is going blind in the first link.

 

[Viewtiful]

Madara still has the EMS, thus you do need to have them activated, he just progressed it to his Rinnegan. It was never said that by activating his Rinnegan, he deactivated his EMS.

 

[Ryuu..]

In the first picture Itachi is almost blind hence why his eyes are bland. Madara is the only one to achieve Rinnegan via progression of EMS so we can only conclude getting Rinnegan this way will allow the user to possess EMS techniques and Rinnegan techniques at the same time.

 

[Uchihas with Big Guns]

u have to have ms or ems rinnegan is the next progression of the sharingan so i assume if u awaken your sasunoo u can still use it appears that it was already disappearing just slowly

itachis sharingan was still activated he just went blind

 

[Flame Alchemist]

itachi was going blind that's why he looked like that

 

[prince of zamunda]

Madara still has the EMS, thus you do need to have them activated, he just progressed it to his Rinnegan. It was never said that by activating his Rinnegan, he deactivated his EMS.

In the first picture Itachi is almost blind hence why his eyes are bland. Madara is the only one to achieve Rinnegan via progression of EMS so we can only conclude getting Rinnegan this way will allow the user to possess EMS techniques and Rinnegan techniques at the same time.

Yeah I get what your saying but going by your logic can he use Amatersu and genjutsu without deactivating his rinnegan? I know that hasn't been shown yet just like to know your opinion.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

He was so blind you could not see the MS activated. It didnt appear.

 

[Ryuu..]

Yeah I get what your saying but going by your logic can he use Amatersu and genjutsu without deactivating his rinnegan? I know that hasn't been shown yet just like to know your opinion.

Well, I can only assume he can because thus far he is the only person to unlock Rinnegan this way and he has been able to use another EMS technique (Susanoo) without deactivating his Rinnegan. So logically I presume he can use Amaterasu aswell (whilst maintaining his Rinnegan form).

 

[kmrasengan]

1st pic his eyes are fading but still ems i think and second madara had susanoo active before he want to rinnegan so it just stayed

agreed

 

[stinkey]

itachi bcz he is becoming blind
madara bcz rinnagan is after EMS which means he can use susanoo just like how MS and EMS can use normal sharingan's ability

 

[AirYeezy]

sasuke is inexperienced

 

[OWanime]

valid point but as long as you activate it won't deactivate without the user's consent or the user dying xd

 

[Punk Hazard]

1st pic his eyes are fading but still ems i think and second madara had susanoo active before he want to rinnegan so it just stayed

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And if Susanoo were a form of Izanagi, Sasuke and Itachi would habve lost their vision. So would Edo Madara

 

[-Vishual-]

"Tsukuyomi= imagination + spritual Amaterasu= physical + vitality"

...or maybe Tsukuyomi=Chakra/ Amaterasu=Chakra...

 

[prince of zamunda]

u have to have ms or ems rinnegan is the next progression of the sharingan so i assume if u awaken your sasunoo u can still use it appears that it was already disappearing just slowly

itachis sharingan was still activated he just went blind

itachi was going blind that's why he looked like that

He was so blind you could not see the MS activated. It didnt appear.

itachi bcz he is becoming blind
madara bcz rinnagan is after EMS which means he can use susanoo just like how MS and EMS can use normal sharingan's ability

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Then why did Sasuke Susanoo start to vanish the moment he felt blindness?