Sasuke might be the owner of Totsuka sword and Yata mirror!!!!

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I will admit that the following image seems to show possibly the Yata Mirror on the right side obscured by the smoke:

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However, the Bow that Sasuke's Susanoo wields has always looked like a shield when viewed from most angles, despite not being one.
My apologies for how I acted yesterday.
I really want to continue this discussion with you, if you allow it.

The difference between Itachi summoning Susano'o with weapons in hand and Sasuke not showing the weapons is an easy one to explain.

You are comparing a fully rested Sasuke who summons Susano'o on whim and cooked up Amaterasu with no toll on him, to a very sick half dead Itachi forced into using his Susano'o.



I don't see Yata mirror, if I don't see it does this mean that base Susano'o tanked Kirin? Or am I missing something here.



I see the gourd here, he pulls it out to silence Oro. Did I simply miss it on the previous page?

Since my first post, I have known that Yata and Totsuka are NOT OCULAR POWERS. But we have seen that Susano'o is a requirement for use (ethereal weapons held by mass of chakra.)



^Maybe its just me, but I don't see Susanoo holding legendary weapons when summoned. I see him holding Bee and Naruto.

I was simply wondering why you use Sasuke's EMS reveal as proof he doesn't have the weapons, when Susano'o doesn't necessary have to have them in hand when summoned?
 

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we already saw sasuke's susanoo and it didn't have two faces. besides, even if sasuke has the sword he is gonna have a fun time trying to stab the fasted ninja probably ever with it. And id love to see how susanoo with the shield would hold up against a bijuu dama stronger than 5 tailed beast combined.
 

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madara's susanoo had 4 arm, which i believe came abt by the combination of the weapons his had and izuna's, so i believe sasukes double faced susanoo will have itachi's sword of totsuka.
Susano'o is an eye technique - it makes sense that if he inserted his younger brother's (Tobi's) eyes into his sockets, it might affect his Susano'o.

The (one) Sword of Totsuka seals people in a paradise. Sasuke's was dark - it is probably a counterpart sword that seals them in a hell. Nonetheless, he doesn't have the Yata's Mirror Shield. It's interesting to see that Susano'o s behave basically as large chakra and sentient entities, like biju. Madara's was skilled enough to use ninjutsu and pull out a weapon, while Sasuke had to carry around a bow and arrow on his for a while. Since Itachi is the master of techniques (no seals, touching or just seeing a body part needed, time delays, combination techniques like the exploding shadow clones), I wouldn't be surprised if his Susano'o has a large stockpile of techniques untapped.
 

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My apologies for how I acted yesterday.
I really want to continue this discussion with you, if you allow it.

The difference between Itachi summoning Susano'o with weapons in hand and Sasuke not showing the weapons is an easy one to explain.

You are comparing a fully rested Sasuke who summons Susano'o on whim and cooked up Amaterasu with no toll on him, to a very sick half dead Itachi forced into using his Susano'o.



I don't see Yata mirror, if I don't see it does this mean that base Susano'o tanked Kirin? Or am I missing something here.



I see the gourd here, he pulls it out to silence Oro. Did I simply miss it on the previous page?

Since my first post, I have known that Yata and Totsuka are NOT OCULAR POWERS. But we have seen that Susano'o is a requirement for use (ethereal weapons held by mass of chakra.)



^Maybe its just me, but I don't see Susanoo holding legendary weapons when summoned. I see him holding Bee and Naruto.

I was simply wondering why you use Sasuke's EMS reveal as proof he doesn't have the weapons, when Susano'o doesn't necessary have to have them in hand when summoned?
It's okay, the same for me.

I wasn't actually using it as proof. Someone had posted the picture earlier saying that the shield was nowhere to be found, so I pointed out that there was something on the right side of the image that could be the shield, but also that Sasuke's Susanoo Bow looks very much like a shield when shown.
 

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It's okay, the same for me.

I wasn't actually using it as proof. Someone had posted the picture earlier saying that the shield was nowhere to be found, so I pointed out that there was something on the right side of the image that could be the shield, but also that Sasuke's Susanoo Bow looks very much like a shield when shown.
Everything and everyone was getting me mad yesterday, I went in for an interview and the dude said they were no longer hiring but I spotted a new guy walking out the building professionally dressed with packets of papers and a smile on his face, so I hit him and dipped. I'm an internet badass as well as real life lol

Not bragging but I did yell Rasengan as I open hand stuck his jaw :)
No one in the vicinity understood the greatness that they had just witnessed.
He would have died if I had chakra lol

On topic, I want someone with better eyes than me to confirm that Itachi summoned Susano'o against Kirin with no gourd in his hand, and summoned Susano'o with no weapons against Nagato, and a few panels later pulls one out for the triple threat long range attack.

I'll ask this again, how in the world does Itachi still have these weapons when his eyes were taken and his corpse was handled by Tobi? The only sound argument I have seen is "Itachi used them... he must still have them." Yeah well Edo Itachi still has his EYES, and I don't want to go back and forth repeating the same things over and over.

This is like my Konichiwa thread when I claimed TBB is comprised of love energy, not chakra. I made points and no one has proved me wrong yet. lol
 

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Everything and everyone was getting me mad yesterday, I went in for an interview and the dude said they were no longer hiring but I spotted a new guy walking out the building professionally dressed with packets of papers and a smile on his face, so I hit him and dipped. I'm an internet badass as well as real life lol

Not bragging but I did yell Rasengan as I open hand stuck his jaw :)
No one in the vicinity understood the greatness that they had just witnessed.
He would have died if I had chakra lol

On topic, I want someone with better eyes than me to confirm that Itachi summoned Susano'o against Kirin with no gourd in his hand, and summoned Susano'o with no weapons against Nagato, and a few panels later pulls one out for the triple threat long range attack.

I'll ask this again, how in the world does Itachi still have these weapons when his eyes were taken and his corpse was handled by Tobi? The only sound argument I have seen is "Itachi used them... he must still have them." Yeah well Edo Itachi still has his EYES, and I don't want to go back and forth repeating the same things over and over.

This is like my Konichiwa thread when I claimed TBB is comprised of love energy, not chakra. I made points and no one has proved me wrong yet. lol
well im new to this discussion but for starters i dont even kno why itachi even has his eyes if sasuke implanted them that makes no sense to me but as far as itachi's weapons are concerned i do think sasuke has a chance of having them based on what itachi and sasuke did wen summoning a susanoo i guess its optional to summon the susanoo's weapons at the same time




so jus because sasuke summoned his susanoo wen he had on his ems and didnt have yata mirror and totsuka sword doesnt mean he cant have it by some chance and the same goes for itachi wen he fought nagato jus because u didnt see the weapons dont mean he doesnt have it

and to try to answer ur question i think he still has his weapons because of the way he acquired them since they legendary he prolly got a scroll or sumthin`idk but they're not part of the susanoo but the susanoo is needed to wield them and yes ur right he jus summoned the susanoo against kirin no totsuka sword he took out the gourd to seal oro away and summoned the skeleton against nagato
 

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no edo itachi has them he used it to seal nagato watch the manga.

as far as the eyes go the bodies are regenerated if the whatever killed them was still in place they would still be dead itachi has eyes the world is ****ed
 

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Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror are weapons that Orochimaru had been looking for but Itachi had all this time. Those weapons have nothing to do with Itachi's Susanoo or Mangekyou sharingan. It's just that Itachi had Susanoo to carry those weapons for him and uses them along with Susanoo. Madara's Susanoo seemed to have Izuna's Susanoo powers as well but Totsuka Blade and Yata Mirror aren't Itachi's Susanoo powers therefore he's not supposed to have them by getting Eternal Ocular Powers. Yasaka Magatama seemed to be part of Susanoo so that is something he might get but the Legendary Weapons, I doubt it.

Unless Itachi personally gives them to him.
 

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well im new to this discussion but for starters i dont even kno why itachi even has his eyes if sasuke implanted them that makes no sense to me but as far as itachi's weapons are concerned i do think sasuke has a chance of having them based on what itachi and sasuke did wen summoning a susanoo i guess its optional to summon the susanoo's weapons at the same time




so jus because sasuke summoned his susanoo wen he had on his ems and didnt have yata mirror and totsuka sword doesnt mean he cant have it by some chance and the same goes for itachi wen he fought nagato jus because u didnt see the weapons dont mean he doesnt have it

and to try to answer ur question i think he still has his weapons because of the way he acquired them since they legendary he prolly got a scroll or sumthin`idk but they're not part of the susanoo but the susanoo is needed to wield them and yes ur right he jus summoned the susanoo against kirin no totsuka sword he took out the gourd to seal oro away and summoned the skeleton against nagato

The reason why Itachi has his eyes is because he still had them on the moment of his death. Edo Tensei revives people pretty much at the state they were on the moment that they died.

How is Sasuke going to get those weapons if they're not part of Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan? They are Legendary Weapons that Itachi has at this moment as well and since they're just weapons that Itachi acquired, Sasuke is going to have to take them away from Itachi himself.
 

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The reason why Itachi had those weapons in Edo because he died with them in his possession. Edo brings you back with all your original powers before you died. Seeing as Itachi attached those weapons to his Susanoo, then obviously he incorporated those weapons into his eyes. This is probably why Itachi implanted ALL of his eye techniques into Sasuke as Tobi mentioned. He hid the sword and shield within his eyes and when Sasuke took his eyes then the weapons most likely became his.
 

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The reason why Itachi has his eyes is because he still had them on the moment of his death. Edo Tensei revives people pretty much at the state they were on the moment that they died.

How is Sasuke going to get those weapons if they're not part of Itachi's Mangekyou Sharingan? They are Legendary Weapons that Itachi has at this moment as well and since they're just weapons that Itachi acquired, Sasuke is going to have to take them away from Itachi himself.
yea i was thinking that but what if itachi gives it to sasuke as some type of parting gift (aside from the ms he left him) for when the edo ends
 

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Hope he doesnt. Besides that would contradict alot of things
technically a couple of things contradict in the show. for example, madara lost to the 1st hokage and the 3rd hokage is said to be stronger than its predecessors, yet the 3rd hokage lost to orochimaru, who Tsunade could fight on par. Doesnt tht mean the orochimaru is stronger than madara if orochimaru could be the third who was said to be stronger than the first. and doesnt tht mean tsunade is stronger than madara as well?
 

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oro didnt beat the 3rd!!!he almost got ass ****ed out there!and when tsunade fought oro he couldnt even use his hands remember!!3rd also sealed 1st and 3rd using the Dead Demon Consuming Seal the most powerful sealing jutsu ever known!so i dont think that the show is full of contradiction!!!outcomes of those fights were reasonable enough!
 

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technically a couple of things contradict in the show. for example, madara lost to the 1st hokage and the 3rd hokage is said to be stronger than its predecessors, yet the 3rd hokage lost to orochimaru, who Tsunade could fight on par. Doesnt tht mean the orochimaru is stronger than madara if orochimaru could be the third who was said to be stronger than the first. and doesnt tht mean tsunade is stronger than madara as well?
That's not contradictory. The 3rd was stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama, but by the time he fought the resurrected Hokage and Orochimaru, he was 69 years old. And even then, he didn't lose, so much as he had no other option but to use the Dead Demon Consuming Seal to end Edo Tensei and stop Orochimaru.
 
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