minato's HYPED speed flawed..... proof inside.....

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Well that is the impression I got, why would they all change it? And if C did say his speed was comparable to the yellow flash, that would mean with the Raiton Shield active, his speed is faster than the yellow flash. So he was comparing their base speed.


This whole problem arises because it appears that Kishi counts Minato's teleportation as speed, when it isn't. I'll go ask the Naruto wiki translator later for the literal translation of that entire passage, because if I remember correctly, he actually compared Minato's base speed to A in his Raiton Armor.

As for why the changed it, I haven't a clue. I just know that that particular translation was SleepyFans (of OneManga.com), which was inaccurate.
 

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Agrees to this..^^^^^^^



He has no point....he's just very upset that there is no point to his arguement.....IF HE WOULD ONLY STOP SHOUTING AND LOOK TO UNDERSTANDING HOW THE F'KIN JUTSU WORKS.....Minato's secret is all in the seal....he can instantaneously move from point to point as long as he has seals....what would happen if let's say, those seals were altered?? The Seal on those kunais are the bases of his movements on top of the caliber of his original speed.....basically meaning...it's intuition of his movements....

Let's say you get in a fight with 2 guys....one after the other....you notice one has short arms..the other is longer, but both are the same speed.....the only way the shorter armed guy is gonna hit you is by a straight punch, or he'll have to compensate by some other means....rather the long armed guy won't have to sacrifice anything if he's as fast as his opponent...

Don't know if you got any of that or gotten confused...but Minato's success lies in his knowledge of when to move rather than think about moving and just doing it....

Well, i didn't count for anything except his speed as in his tech. In theory I was just stating that one person who is attacking from point A to point C has to go through point B first. I was just stating the fact Minato can skip going to point B and go straight to point C. So I don't know why you are trying to make a point with me? Though by your reason in general we are on the same page. Am i missing the point or something?
 

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This whole problem arises because it appears that Kishi counts Minato's teleportation as speed, when it isn't.
As for why the changed it, I haven't a clue. I just know that that particular translation was SleepyFans (of OneManga.com), which was inaccurate.

Where did you get the other translation from?
And in all of the translations I have seen, C has never once mentioned speed.
Im going out now, I will reply when I get back.
 

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I get all my translation from ShounenSuki over on the . Since he doesn't have to scanlate things and thus isn't bound by a schedule, his translations tend to be about as, for lack of a better word, "perfect".
I'm about to request his translation of that passage, just checking around to make sure he doesn't already have one.
 

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Well, i didn't count for anything except his speed as in his tech. In theory I was just stating that one person who is attacking from point A to point C has to go through point B first. I was just stating the fact Minato can skip going to point B and go straight to point C. So I don't know why you are trying to make a point with me? Though by your reason in general we are on the same page. Am i missing the point or something?

oh no....I thought I had someone else in the quote...obviously not, but I was agreeing with ya.....he could tag anyone at any point as long as the condition is right....condition meaning the seal is at/near that point. But yes, we are on the same page...:) I actually gave you rep+ on that point...lol
 

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Minato and A have the same reaction speed.
 
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HOW CAN HE????

THEN HOW DID MINATO SAW RAIKAGE....??? DOES HE POSSES A BETTER DOUJUTSU THAN SHARINGAN TO SEE PEOPLE'S SPEED ????
HE'S SPEED IS HYPED BY KISHI FOR 1 REASON HE'S THE MAIN CHARACTER'S DAD , HE HAS TO BE HYPED FOR NARUTO TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, I BELIEVE ANYONE WHO CAN ATTACK MINATO BEFORE HE REACTS AND TELEPORTS WIILL BEAT HIM TO A PULP.

YOU MIGHT SAY THAT A WAS YOUNG BUT THAT IS NOT POINT OF ARGUMENT AS HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH EVEN THEN AND A YOUNGER A MEANS A LIGHTER A SO a FASTER A.

SORRY MINATO FANBOYS... YOUR CHARACTER'S MAIN JUTSU IS FLAWED!!!!!!


you all din't got the point, he is saying that if the sharingan can't keep with A, can't see his movements, how come Minato can see A's movements in order to react? does he have better eyes?

Basically he is asking how come Minato's eyes are better than the sharigan eyes which should be the best in following high speed movement.

An answer it will be that is not about the eyes is about the brain and reflexes.
 
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Well tobi stated that minato lived up yo his base speed which was really fast, and one of his main tech is the ftg which teleports him from A to B in a nano sec. So he has to be a type of person that can quickly adapt to his surroundings and must have a sharp eye to realize if he is in a bad spot quickly. No he doesn't have an eye power.... It's like diedera he trained his eye to see through genjutsu, so it's safe to say that Minato trained his eye to scan his surroundings quickly and thr ability to react really fast.
 

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HOW CAN HE????

THEN HOW DID MINATO SAW RAIKAGE....??? DOES HE POSSES A BETTER DOUJUTSU THAN SHARINGAN TO SEE PEOPLE'S SPEED ????
HE'S SPEED IS HYPED BY KISHI FOR 1 REASON HE'S THE MAIN CHARACTER'S DAD , HE HAS TO BE HYPED FOR NARUTO TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, I BELIEVE ANYONE WHO CAN ATTACK MINATO BEFORE HE REACTS AND TELEPORTS WIILL BEAT HIM TO A PULP.

YOU MIGHT SAY THAT A WAS YOUNG BUT THAT IS NOT POINT OF ARGUMENT AS HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH EVEN THEN AND A YOUNGER A MEANS A LIGHTER A SO a FASTER A.

SORRY MINATO FANBOYS... YOUR CHARACTER'S MAIN JUTSU IS FLAWED!!!!!!
i'm sorry, but you didnt give a single instance of minato being een touched, and yet you say his jutsu was flawed. sure if your fast enough you can have at least a chance at beating him, but no one in history has been fast enough, therefore his jutsu is not "flawed" an you are one of the biggest idiots and one of the biggest haters on this entire site. mget a brain you dumbass.
 

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Yawn. Another autistic kid who escaped detention

dude, i'm autistic, yet i have never been in detention, and every point i have ever stated on this site has been valid, this man is just a huge idiot, you have no proof he is autistic so shut the fawk up you fawking bastard.
 

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HOW CAN HE????

THEN HOW DID MINATO SAW RAIKAGE....??? DOES HE POSSES A BETTER DOUJUTSU THAN SHARINGAN TO SEE PEOPLE'S SPEED ????
HE'S SPEED IS HYPED BY KISHI FOR 1 REASON HE'S THE MAIN CHARACTER'S DAD , HE HAS TO BE HYPED FOR NARUTO TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, I BELIEVE ANYONE WHO CAN ATTACK MINATO BEFORE HE REACTS AND TELEPORTS WIILL BEAT HIM TO A PULP.

YOU MIGHT SAY THAT A WAS YOUNG BUT THAT IS NOT POINT OF ARGUMENT AS HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH EVEN THEN AND A YOUNGER A MEANS A LIGHTER A SO a FASTER A.

SORRY MINATO FANBOYS... YOUR CHARACTER'S MAIN JUTSU IS FLAWED!!!!!!

Umm, Naruto's dad developed a new and complicated jutsu. That's something to be proud of. Naruto's dad was the Fourth Hokage. That's something to be proud of. MINATO GAVE UP HIS FREAKING LIFE FOR HIS SON AND THE FUTURE OF THE LEAF VILLAGE. THAT'S IS SOMETHING FREAKING TO BE PROUD OF!!!!! And no character is perfect. So, shut up.
 

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Yawn. Another autistic kid who escaped detention

Hey, that's not cool! DO you even KNOW anything about autism? I agree this guy is wrong, but calling him autistic is rude to not only him, but to autistic kids. Freaking uncalled for!!!
 

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HOW CAN HE????

THEN HOW DID MINATO SAW RAIKAGE....??? DOES HE POSSES A BETTER DOUJUTSU THAN SHARINGAN TO SEE PEOPLE'S SPEED ????
HE'S SPEED IS HYPED BY KISHI FOR 1 REASON HE'S THE MAIN CHARACTER'S DAD , HE HAS TO BE HYPED FOR NARUTO TO HAVE SOMETHING TO BE PROUD OF, I BELIEVE ANYONE WHO CAN ATTACK MINATO BEFORE HE REACTS AND TELEPORTS WIILL BEAT HIM TO A PULP.

YOU MIGHT SAY THAT A WAS YOUNG BUT THAT IS NOT POINT OF ARGUMENT AS HE WAS STRONG ENOUGH EVEN THEN AND A YOUNGER A MEANS A LIGHTER A SO a FASTER A.

SORRY MINATO FANBOYS... YOUR CHARACTER'S MAIN JUTSU IS FLAWED!!!!!!

Bro it easy to figure out, Minato is faster than A (A was older than Minato by 6-10 years). Sasuke is was not as fast or faster than A so he could only see A but couldn't react and needed Sasunoo for protection. A already stated that Minato was faster than him and now that Minato was dead he is the fastest ninja alive (until Naruto proved different). If Im as fast or faster than you then I can react and dodge you, it's that simple.
 

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I get all my translation from ShounenSuki over on the . Since he doesn't have to scanlate things and thus isn't bound by a schedule, his translations tend to be about as, for lack of a better word, "perfect".
I'm about to request his translation of that passage, just checking around to make sure he doesn't already have one.

I don't trust random people translating it, there is going to be different interpretations of what was said.
This is what the official Viz translation seems to say:

Shee: Lord Raikage's nerve transmissions and his reaction speed are on par with that of Konoha's yellow flash.....Impressive these folks are keeping up as well as they are. But Lord Raikage has manipulated raiton chakra to augment his reflexes! Not even the sharingan will be able to keep up with him.

So from this, it is clear that Raikage in base has the same reflexes and reaction speed as Minato in his base. But once Raikage activated the Lightning Shroud, his reflexes become greater than Minato's. Minato's base speed (or speed with Shunshin) wasn't mentioned so we don't actually know how fast it was in correlation to the Raikage's base/Raiton Armor/Shunshin speed, we just know it was 'fast'.
 
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