2nd hokage vs itach

[Pain omen]

Lmao this thread is still going on. I wonder what tobirama has shown us for people to say tobirama > itachi

he has shown nothing to say it.

that exactly what im saying yet we are still called itachi fanboys for beliving he can win.

this is madness.

 

[kmrasengan]

we haven't seen tobirama full power yet so how can we tell that he beats itachi or vice-versa

 

[Pain omen]

we haven't seen tobirama full power yet so how can we tell that he beats itachi or vice-versa

and thats why this thread fails.

weve only ever seen tobi fight once. an it wasn't that impressive.

 

[Reborn]

There is no way to fairly assess how Tobirama would do in a battle against most shinobi of higher level as we're given vauge information on the extent of his abilities and we've seen him fight once in a diluted version of his prime.

What I don't like is how people still manage to feel the need to put him up against shinobi when there is no way to assess his abilities and possibilities against his opponent and also how Kishi begins to emphasis Tobirama's importance more (S/T although not so important but mainly IWR) and yet doesn't show the extent of his abilities, which leaves me believing that Kishi just trolled Tobirama to give him some relivance like he's done with all the Hokage.

First Hokage-founder, main dna source for Uchiha masterminds

Third Hokage-first Hokage seen, Uchiha assassination within his second regime

Fourth Hokage-no need for explination

Fifth Hokage-single handedly healed everybody and single handedly protected village from Pain's assult.

There's just no real emphasis on Tobirama until recently, and now that we're hearing all of this new information about him, naturally we're curious about his abilities and want him to fight but we're not going to see that.

 

[Pain omen]

finally some intelegence in this thread.

 

[HokageNaruto12]

itachi is a beast but even wit the little we kno about tobirama senju the SECOND HOKAGE...itachi still not beatin him because once tobirama cuts off itacti vision wit his bringer of darkness technique thats half the battle rite there cause wats an uchiha witout his vision...and plus itachi wouldn't fight him anyway, he was smart enough 2 run from jariya wit kisame by his side so pretty sure he wouldn't try and rumble wit the second

 

[Guildmage]

Tobirama is an overpowered dude...... EVEN WITH NO FEATS OF HIM..... only with the known techniques of him..... which are:

*Edo Tensei
*Space/Time Ninjutsu
*Kisame Level Water Ninjutsu

I think this is enough to call him.... OVERPOWERED.....

The question here is...... Can Tobirama withstand Itachi's genjutsus?

Because Tobirama's space time jutsus are enough to escape Totsuka Blade and amaterasu..... Physical stuff

but when we talk about Tsukuyomi or genjutsu which are not of this plane..... then that's another story

 

[Onion Soda]

Let's don't forget that Tobirama used to fight Uchihas (and the legendary ones) in most of his life, he would likely know how to counter their techs (Katon, genjutsu, etc.).
He could use bringer of darkness jutsu (which blind his targets and can't be ended by disrupting chackra, Sarutobi didn¡'t even try to do that) and since he is a beast on suiton he could known how to summon mist (hell, even zabuza can do that). Plus, Itachi almost blind and Tobirama sensing capabilities.
Yup, I think Tobirama could take this.

 

[Viewtiful]

Someone else posted this a few days ago. It's completely irrefutable. Warning: the truth may shock you:

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I couldn't believe it when I found out.

 

[Ambriel]

Dnt know what tobi can do so itachi

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Itachi wins!

 

[10TailedPower]

nothing is known about tobirama except that he excels at suiton and has some sort of S/T ninjutsu. It's impossible to match the two

yea, we haven't seen really anythin from tobirama so its hard to give an accurate answer

 

[Onion Soda]

Someone else posted this a few days ago. It's completely irrefutable. Warning: the truth may shock you:

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I couldn't believe it when I found out.

HAHA... his plan was to stop up naruto with ramen to weaken the seal.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

I'm surprised this hasn't been moved.

 

[Viewtiful]

You're not the only one. xD

 

[Lankeysob]

There just isn't enough information to say Tobirama > Itachi or Itachi > Tobirama.

 

[-Broly-]

Who Is the second hokage really gonna summon with edo? All the strong ninjas at that time were either still alive or not born yet

 

[Lankeysob]

Who Is the second hokage really gonna summon with edo? All the strong ninjas at that time were either still alive or not born yet

Not necessarily. We just don't know which strong ninja were around then.

 

[jtolliver87]

Tobirama is an overpowered dude...... EVEN WITH NO FEATS OF HIM..... only with the known techniques of him..... which are:

*Edo Tensei
*Space/Time Ninjutsu
*Kisame Level Water Ninjutsu

I think this is enough to call him.... OVERPOWERED.....

The question here is...... Can Tobirama withstand Itachi's genjutsus?

Because Tobirama's space time jutsus are enough to escape Totsuka Blade and amaterasu..... Physical stuff

but when we talk about Tsukuyomi or genjutsu which are not of this plane..... then that's another story

this except his suiton abilities = greater than kisame..that being said he beats Itachi

 

[Wakizashi]

tobirama is very advance in water style jutsu is the second strongest senju which is really respected for their battle experience. i would say nidaime gets this one