Sasuke MS VS Itachi MS

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But Itachi release the genjutsu, that is a fact. You saying you won't go back and read it pretty much admits to me that you know I am right.
What are you talking about? Sasuke and Itachi were casting illusions on each other, in reality they were standing still.
-> Only then they started real battle.
Sasuke got behind Itachi's chair and stabbed the "real" Itachi, but it turns out Itachi had used another genjutsu and the real Itachi was behind Sasuke, as you can tell when Itachi just points backwards and Sasuke is like "da fuq?"





My dear friend, that Genjutsu battle was pointless for both of them. Thats a fact.
 

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What are you talking about? Sasuke and Itachi were casting illusions on each other, in reality they were standing still.
-> Only then they started real battle.






My dear friend, that Genjutsu battle was pointless for both of them. Thats a fact.
It was pointless because Itachi didn't want to kill him.

Had Itachi wanted to he could have gotten up at any point and killed Sasuke. I know they were standing still, because Itachi didn't do anything. People can move when they cast others into genjutsu, and Itachi could have killed him what are you not getting about that?

Don't tell me you are one of those kids who thinks Itachi was actually trying to kill Sasuke, because that genjutsu battle could have ended while Sasuke actually thought he was killing Itachi in that throne.

It was like a triple inception genjutsu. A genjutsu, inside of a genjutsu, inside of a genjutsu.
 

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MS doesn't randomly give you the ability to see through genjutsu.
The sharingan has genjutsu resistance. Simple logic would say MS has even better resistance since it's a higher level eye, plus yes Sasuke did break out of tsukiyomi.
FACT - Sasuke didn't see through Itachi's genjutsu.




FWI I do think Itachi would win but you're seriously using fanboy logic, you're denying sasuke's feats and then making generous assumptions for Itachi like Itachi being able to use amaterasu control despite no hints of such in earlier posts.
 

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The sharingan has genjutsu resistance. Simple logic would say MS has even better resistance since it's a higher level eye, plus yes Sasuke did break out of tsukiyomi.




FWI I do think Itachi would win but you're seriously using fanboy logic, you're denying sasuke's feats and then making generous assumptions for Itachi like Itachi being able to use amaterasu control despite no hints of such in earlier posts.
Sasuke saw through some of Itachi's genjutsu, but he didn't see through the last one, Itachi released it. Itachi's last genjutsu made Sasuke think he was attacking Itachi who was sitting in a chair, and Itachi said oh this isn't getting us anywhere and released it.

Had he wanted to he could have just gone to kill him.

And by the way no dojutsu has genjutsu resistance, where did you get that from? It is a myth that is being bandied about but it isn't true. All that is true is the doujutsu can see if other people are in genjutsu because the doujutsu can see chakra.
 

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A Comprehensive Guide: Itachi>Sauce:

This does not include the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan, which is a fusion.

What we saw

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Was an illusion. There is a chapter titled Illusion afterward to make this clear.

Sauce realizing he could have been genjutsu-raped.

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Sasuke says his Sharingan can see through all of Itachi's (tier higher) illusions. After learning Itachi was jobbing, Sauce's face says it all. +Tobi says he couldn't.

Sauce realizing he could have been CQC-raped.

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Itachi is much better in close quarters (a tier higher.) Without that White Snake, this would have been an elegant version of what Killer Bee did.

Sauce realizing he could have been Tsukuyomi-raped

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Sasuke argues that Itachi used the Mangekyō Sharingan to kill him, and yet... then it shows the Tsukuyomi scene. And the Amaterasu scene. Coincidence?

Amaterasu Dodging

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Itachi planned that fight. Logically speaking, he didn't plan for Sasuke to be defeated with Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu or Sharingan genjutsu, for example.

Tsukuyomi Comparison

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Danzō pulled a Kanye West by congratulating Sasuke on trapping him in in an illusion, but said that Itachi had the greatest Tsukuyomi OF ALL TIME.

Amaterasu Comparison

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Itachi has better incineration feats, and he dragged Amaterasu around more. Sasuke controls Amaterasy more finely, but he's done so once (see above.)

Susano'o Comparison

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Sasuke couldn't hold Complete Susano'o, like Itachi. Itachi has legendary items. Sasuke may be more versatile, or... just had more screen time.

All-around

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Versatile Sasuke could be broken as fuck, but he fights one-dimensionally like Itachi, with dōjutsu and genjutsu, and uses the techniques with less power than Itachi did, and also in the wrong order.
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Don't tell me you are one of those kids who thinks Itachi was actually trying to kill Sasuke
I know that Itachi didnt want to kill him, but who said that Itachi was holding back in Genjutsu battle? I will repeat myself: going by manga that Genjutsu battle was pointless for both of them. Sasuke could see through all of Itachis genjutsu and vice versa. Thats a fact.
 
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Yeah as long as Itachi is actually fighting to win then he takes this.

His Susanoo is better, his Tsukuyomi is infinitely better, the only thing Sasuke has is better control of Amaterasu. Which wouldn't do anything to Susanoo anyway.

Itachi is faster, smarter, better at taijutsu and genjutsu. Itachi has the elemental advantage of water over fire, whereas Sasuke's lightning is not strong or weak to water or fire.

Sasuke doesn't have any advantages except his chidori sword. Which didn't help him much in the last fight when Itachi was almost blind and near dead.

Sasuke doesn't stand a chance.
I never knew he had water element :confused:
r u sure?? :shrug:
 

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Under those circumstances, Itachi wins this.
Itachi held back on their last fight. Keep in mind that Itachi was sick, his eyesight was already deteriorated --after the many uses of MS in the past few years-- and Kakashi himself said so in the manga when the sand dude --I think his name was Yura (sp?), back when Akatsuki captured Gaara-- was turned into a clone of Itachi via white Zetsu, and he was also holding back since his original plan was to push Sasuke in a corner and make him get rid of Orochimaru.
But one can not forget Sasuke's feats, yet in their battle the sick Itachi had the upper hand. One can only imagine what Itachi could do should he wanted to kill Sasuke and being on his prime; Sublime all out massacre and after that Itachi would make Sasuke ribs and steaks in an Amaterasu BBQ for everyone in Narutoverse. xd
 
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