Explain to me why Hawkeyes is better then Kuma

[BusinessManTeno]

OHHH
the bot feat.!

Well. Dont really matter if thats a bot feat. Thats the REAL Kuma. Just turned into a bot
not all the bots have paw paw. only one of them . 0. So yea. And. ur not given me reason why he can beat hawkeyes. Im stating facts. from what i seen. Your given me abilities.. Hawkeyes split a ship and a tsunami. Kuma destroyed a whole area and took down a giant. Proof

 

[Boa Hancock]

OHHH
the bot feat.!

Well. Dont really matter if thats a bot feat. Thats the REAL Kuma. Just turned into a bot
not all the bots have paw paw. only one of them . 0. So yea. And. ur not given me reason why he can beat hawkeyes. Im stating facts. from what i seen. Your given me abilities.. Hawkeyes split a ship and a tsunami. Kuma destroyed a whole area and took down a giant. Proof

The real Kuma is the one with the original mindset. Bot Kuma is PX-0. While technically it's still his feat, it's not since we consider each Kuma as a separate entity. The real Kuma uses his DF to the fullest, while PX-0 only uses Ursus Shock and lasers.

Kuma destroyed a whole ship and took down a giant. Mihawk sparred with a Yonkou and split a tsunami as big as Marineford. Yeah, pretty close match there.

 

[BusinessManTeno]

U must be forgetting That Kuma caused an explosion on Marui island as big as marin ford

if you saying Hawkeyes can beat these moves



and his speed. its obvious. YOU are the fanboy.

Hancock is the strongest to me overall. cause she can just turn em all to stone. otherwise. Kuma 3rd strongest
next to flamingo. since his powers is kinda mystery but very crazy what we seen

 

[lubricati0n]

U must be forgetting That Kuma caused an explosion on Marui island as big as marin ford

if you saying Hawkeyes can beat these moves



and his speed. its obvious. YOU are the fanboy.

Hancock is the strongest to me overall. cause she can just turn em all to stone. otherwise. Kuma 3rd strongest
next to flamingo. since his powers is kinda mystery but very crazy what we seen

You also forgot to mention that we have seen very little of Mihawk's power. Mihawk also fought Whitebeard's 5th division commander Vista.

Also do you really think Mihawk can't match Kuma's speed?

 

[Boa Hancock]

U must be forgetting That Kuma caused an explosion on Marui island as big as marin ford

if you saying Hawkeyes can beat these moves



and his speed. its obvious. YOU are the fanboy.

Hancock is the strongest to me overall. cause she can just turn em all to stone. otherwise. Kuma 3rd strongest
next to flamingo. since his powers is kinda mystery but very crazy what we seen

Believe me, I'm the last person to praise swordsmen, having seen enough to last me a lifetime.

It doesn't make sense that a guy who sparred Shanks and shook the Grand Line with it would be weaker than a woman who's not on a Yonkou's general level.

Besides, don't use the anime for feats. It's not the source material.

 

[Nikos150]

Boa i feel pity for you, you are trying so hard to convince a fanboy that he is wrong, but i got to tell you, you are just losing your time....

Seriously, kuma could protect sunny just because he is bot, he doesn't feel pain or exhaustion so he obviously can protect it for a long time , but pain and exhaustion means nothing if the fight only takes a short amount of time, and that's what i think will happen if those 2 fight. I am sure kuma can do nothing more thatn what we 've seen when hawkeye has shown nothing, just slashing around and shooting sword cannons . In addition he is fighting equally with a yonkou and he is known as the best swordman in the world, well i know kuma doesn't have a sword but as they mentioned before, does that mean that luffy after 2 years can beat hawkeye?? no way , but i think that if he fights kuma he will probably win

P.S you ve seen hawkeye's slash , i mean the one that cut the tsunami in half?? do you think kuma is so fast that he can avoid that enormous slash??? i guess he can't duck to avoid it , so?

 

[Two]

I'm not sure who's stringest we haven't seen either fight at full strength

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

well zoro lion song manage to demage kuma body,
imagine mihawk sekai ichi no zangeki(the world strongest slash)
hmhm yeah mihawk will trash him

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Kinda odd that you define a fanboy who will Defend a character .
Your not dif then me when it comes to that.

He fought shanks. And all of that. Thats cool.

Kuma Was Part of the revolutionary team and was said to be more fearsome then the 4emperors. Maybe im wrong.

and i dont use manga for feats cause you cant see it in motion. and im not really a fan of Op drawing style. And honestly i dont think Hawkeyes can match Kuma speed. But EH.. I dont know that do I..

All i can do is Wait

 

[Nikos150]

we are just trying to make you understand the obvious, we are not fanboys, fanboys are those guys who are so stubborn in their opinion even though they are wrong, for example fanboys are people that can't admit that bleach is shit right now

 

[sexyprep1]

it this a serious question -_-

 

[BusinessManTeno]

WTF!!!
Bleach is not shit
Bleach>Op IMO

 

[Nikos150]

OMG! really? RRReally?? yeah , bleach has great storyline, no fillers at all, unexpected things happen all the time, oh yes, i am sorry there are some good fights...and fullbring arc is definetely the best thing we ve seen in an anime for years...duh, seriously i can't believe that i am arguing with a guy who wouldn't only say that bleach is good but that it's better than one piece... anyway , i hope i won't turn this thread into flame wars , but seriously man, you have to redetermine the way you see some things

 

[lubricati0n]

OMG! really? RRReally?? yeah , bleach has great storyline, no fillers at all, unexpected things happen all the time, oh yes, i am sorry there are some good fights...and fullbring arc is definetely the best thing we ve seen in an anime for years...duh, seriously i can't believe that i am arguing with a guy who wouldn't only say that bleach is good but that it's better than one piece... anyway , i hope i won't turn this thread into flame wars , but seriously man, you have to redetermine the way you see some things

Hey. Don't diss Bleach bro. You and others may not like it but I still do and that's all that counts. It isn't as good as One Piece but its good alright.

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

Then it's simple. You are a Kuma fanboy. If you can't stick to the source material and make up your own facts then that's called fanboying. I'll bite though.



Staying for 2 years on the Sunny is the bot feat. Mihawk can obviously keep up with Kuma, same as all the other top tiers. Wait for his speed feats, don't just blast him because he hasn't gone all out yet. I know Kuma hasn't gone all out too, but we've seen a fraction of what he can do and therefore speculate. Mihawk hasn't passed that barrier yet and demands a greater amount of speculation.

I mean really.

The feat of defending the Sunny for 2 years is a bot feat, how can you not see that? You can't use that for the real Kuma, since common sense dictates that you can't just sit there for over a year without bathroom breaks and mealtimes.

No. Like I said, what does Kuma have that can overpower Mihawk? It's safe to say all top-tiers have Busoshoku and Kenbunshoku. DFs don't work to an extent when countered with Buso right? Then that's it. Kenbun allows Mihawk to react to the otherwise untouchable Kuma.

Simple logic really. If we go by your analogy Foxy should be able to beat the Admirals with a seastone dagger because he can control time.

Believe me, I'm the last person to praise swordsmen, having seen enough to last me a lifetime.

It doesn't make sense that a guy who sparred Shanks and shook the Grand Line with it would be weaker than a woman who's not on a Yonkou's general level.

Besides, don't use the anime for feats. It's not the source material.

Boa i feel pity for you, you are trying so hard to convince a fanboy that he is wrong, but i got to tell you, you are just losing your time....

Seriously, kuma could protect sunny just because he is bot, he doesn't feel pain or exhaustion so he obviously can protect it for a long time , but pain and exhaustion means nothing if the fight only takes a short amount of time, and that's what i think will happen if those 2 fight. I am sure kuma can do nothing more thatn what we 've seen when hawkeye has shown nothing, just slashing around and shooting sword cannons . In addition he is fighting equally with a yonkou and he is known as the best swordman in the world, well i know kuma doesn't have a sword but as they mentioned before, does that mean that luffy after 2 years can beat hawkeye?? no way , but i think that if he fights kuma he will probably win

P.S you ve seen hawkeye's slash , i mean the one that cut the tsunami in half?? do you think kuma is so fast that he can avoid that enormous slash??? i guess he can't duck to avoid it , so?

Pretty much every thing said here is nothin but speculation and u guys believing just because Hawkeyes fought a Yonkou (Who at the time wasn't even a Yonkou if I remember correctly), that he can fight Kuma who has one of the most hax DF abilities in One Piece.

And how dare u guys call him a fanboy for defending a character when u guys urselves have no solid proof that Hawkeyes can even beat Kuma :|...

 

[Nikos150]

i know it doesn't work like this in one piece world, but i think it works when the difference in power is huge... so you are saying that kuma can defeat Mihawk so kuma is so powerfull that he can fight equally with a yonkou (since mihawk is so powerfull that he is able to fight equally with a yonkou) and if he is not a fanboy why is he so stubborn about his opinion when the "speculations" are against kuma and it's obvious that mihawk is stronger??and when we see his power , then what we ll you say? i wanted to watch it to believe it?? why can't you understand it before watching , cause it's obvious you are gonna understand that we are right when mihawk goes all out

 

[Nikos150]

Hey. Don't diss Bleach bro. You and others may not like it but I still do and that's all that counts. It isn't as good as One Piece but its good alright.

ok , i take it back , sorry ,i don't wanna start a flame thread , i just think that bleach became a little bit less interesting in fullbring arc....

 

[BusinessManTeno]

Thanks bro
they callen me a fanboy
but they defending hawkeyes the same way im defending Kuma
and their is NOTHING agenst kuma bro
u for one sound like a fanboy
cause from what we seen. Nobody can stop Kuma attacks last time we seen. maybe avoid
but As we seen Hawkeyes "Most powerful slash" was stop by diamon jozu. ALSO! bleach is better IMO.

i personally like Fillers. Cause i like seeing New bankais. etc
so yep

 

[Nikos150]

Thanks bro
they callen me a fanboy
but they defending hawkeyes the same way im defending Kuma

i am not gonna comment on what you said about bleach...but i am sorry i am not a fan of mihawk, i am fan of common sense, that's what i am defending here and not mihawk

 

[BigTDogg220]

Bottomline we haven't even seen Mihawk or Kuma fight a serious battle so there aren't really any easy points to compare Mihawk to Kuma. Both Kuma and Mihawk are obviously powerful, but I don't see any way to easily say one is stronger than the other.