Explain to me why Hawkeyes is better then Kuma

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Somebody pls do cause its pissing me off. It was showed the Kuma is not only faster then him. But stronger. Not only that but i doubt if hawkeyes couldve took out oars. So pls you Hawkeyes fan. explain to me how He is stronger cause i keep hearing it and even my brother is saying it and it makes me want to jump off a building.:mad::mad:
 
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It is all of opinions and favoritism. More people like Mihawk so they will say he is stronger. That's how everything goes with animes.
 

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Somebody pls do cause its pissing me off. It was showed the Kuma is not only faster then him. But stronger. Not only that but i doubt if hawkeyes couldve took out oars. So pls you Hawkeyes fan. explain to me how He is stronger cause i keep hearing it and even my brother is saying it and it makes me want to jump off a building.:mad::mad:
It's like asking how Shanks could be stronger than Luffy because Shanks doesn't have a DF. It's like saying Kuma is stronger than WB because WB doesn't move in speed lines.

We haven't been shown anything of Mihawk's true potential yet, and current powerscaling indicates that Doflamingo and Mihawk are out of Kuma's league as of now.

There you have it, now jump off if you'd like.
 
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Fck that
Thats BS

It was showed Shanks was Stronger just by using haiki
not ONCE was it showed why hawkeyes or implamented why he was stronger

It was shown that Kuma is out of Hawkeyes league
u not given me no proof
last time i checked Kuma didnt go all out neither and he still did way more damage then Hawkeyes
so that excuse is No valid
 

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I have to agree. Feats wise and devil fruit power, Kuma has one of the most hax abilities in One Piece. He HAS blocked everything that has ever come his way. Kuma protected a ship for 2 years without dying which shows something as many people would have came to it.

Speculation: Hawkeyes > Kuma
Feats: Kuma < Hawkeyes
 

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Fck that
Thats BS

It was showed Shanks was Stronger just by using haiki
not ONCE was it showed why hawkeyes or implamented why he was stronger

It was shown that Kuma is out of Hawkeyes league
u not given me no proof
last time i checked Kuma didnt go all out neither and he still did way more damage then Hawkeyes
so that excuse is No valid
Shanks hasn't shown to bust kilometers of bedrock. Aisa had Haki, does that mean she's stronger than Usopp?

He did more damage than Mihawk? Pray tell which feat can equal Mihawk's frozen tsunami splitting at the war. Please. I'm begging you. Just because Mihawk hasn't shown to shoot lasers out of his mouth means he's automatically weaker? He's just more versatile.
 

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im talkn about Kuma bear the human
not the droid
Last time i check i doubt hawkeyes can protect a ship for 2yrs from EVERYBODY who are after the strawhats. You are being indirect. and giving me every other answer. He split a tsunami... Good. Kuma Took down a giant. with little effort at all

Im talkn about strength and speed wise. last time i check. If Luffy wasnt fast in most cases he wouldnt be as strong as he is now
So speed and strength play a good part
 

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im talkn about Kuma bear the human
not the droid
Last time i check i doubt hawkeyes can protect a ship for 2yrs from EVERYBODY who are after the strawhats. You are being indirect. and giving me every other answer. He split a tsunami... Good. Kuma Took down a giant. with little effort at all

Im talkn about strength and speed wise. last time i check. If Luffy wasnt fast in most cases he wouldnt be as strong as he is now
So speed and strength play a good part
You're saying you're not talking about the droid, yet you're using the bot's feats. Weird.

Who were everybody after the SH? You mean the fodder bounty hunters?

Because Oars was the same size as the tsunami and Oars wasn't damaged by all the cannons and Dofla at all. I hear you.

WB isn't fast. Does that mean Kuma can beat the "World's Strongest Man"? Just because Mihawk hasn't gone ALL OUT and doesn't have A CLOSE NUMBER OF FEATS as of yet doesn't mean you have to whine that Kuma is stronger. Kaidou doesn't have feats whatsoever yet he's a Yonkou, does that mean Pre-skip Nami is stronger than him?

Riiight.
 
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i have no clue who the ppl u are talkn about

anyways

What feats did i use of the droid.
last time i check. Kuma is the one with the paw paw fruit
lets stick to him. And i myself think he can beat whitebeard to be honest with you. or maybe a draw. but i for one KNOW that hawkeyes can not.

and what do you mean FEATS. U keep sayn that. im confuse?
and kuma didnt go all out neither. and The navy AND pirates was after luffy ship. So yep
 

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i have no clue who the ppl u are talkn about

anyways

What feats did i use of the droid.
last time i check. Kuma is the one with the paw paw fruit
lets stick to him. And i myself think he can beat whitebeard to be honest with you. or maybe a draw. but i for one KNOW that hawkeyes can not.

and what do you mean FEATS. U keep sayn that. im confuse?
and kuma didnt go all out neither. and The navy AND pirates was after luffy ship. So yep
Then it's simple. You are a Kuma fanboy. If you can't stick to the source material and make up your own facts then that's called fanboying. I'll bite though.

Feats are actions performed by various characters/entities that are used to show their power. Feats are one of the most important ways of gauging a character's power in the OBD, and therefore they are also the main points of argument on almost any thread. There are different types of feats, such as speed feats, strength feats, durability feats, power feats, intelligence/prep feats, etc. Some feats are more useful than others, since they can be more easily quantified.

For example, a character dodging a bullet from what looks like a Glock 17 can be analyzed since we know the muzzle velocity. A character dodging a ray gun beam from an unknown type of weapon cannot really be analyzed, since we don't know how fast it moves.

Feats are often collected and explained in respect threads. Characters/universes with a lot of hyperbole claims and few feats to back them up are generally looked upon with skepticism.

However, even feats can be discredited if they are unsupported by context of the story, whether by being far outliers, or retconned away from existence.

Staying for 2 years on the Sunny is the bot feat. Mihawk can obviously keep up with Kuma, same as all the other top tiers. Wait for his speed feats, don't just blast him because he hasn't gone all out yet. I know Kuma hasn't gone all out too, but we've seen a fraction of what he can do and therefore speculate. Mihawk hasn't passed that barrier yet and demands a greater amount of speculation.

I mean really.
 

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If u call me a fanboy then cool. And No. the bot was Kuma (paw paw fruit) last memory. He technically is a bot now. but he is the original so i call him kuma still. not px. Also we have seen a portion of what hawkeyes can do. he fought with a swordsman. also destroyed a ship. we havent seen more then kuma but still. So as of now. Its safe to say kuma is stronger. No?
 

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If u call me a fanboy then cool. And No. the bot was Kuma (paw paw fruit) last memory. He technically is a bot now. but he is the original so i call him kuma still. not px. Also we have seen a portion of what hawkeyes can do. he fought with a swordsman. also destroyed a ship. we havent seen more then kuma but still. So as of now. Its safe to say kuma is stronger. No?
The feat of defending the Sunny for 2 years is a bot feat, how can you not see that? You can't use that for the real Kuma, since common sense dictates that you can't just sit there for over a year without bathroom breaks and mealtimes.

No. Like I said, what does Kuma have that can overpower Mihawk? It's safe to say all top-tiers have Busoshoku and Kenbunshoku. DFs don't work to an extent when countered with Buso right? Then that's it. Kenbun allows Mihawk to react to the otherwise untouchable Kuma.

Simple logic really. If we go by your analogy Foxy should be able to beat the Admirals with a seastone dagger because he can control time.
 

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If u call me a fanboy then cool. And No. the bot was Kuma (paw paw fruit) last memory. He technically is a bot now. but he is the original so i call him kuma still. not px. Also we have seen a portion of what hawkeyes can do. he fought with a swordsman. also destroyed a ship. we havent seen more then kuma but still. So as of now. Its safe to say kuma is stronger. No?
Yes you can say it was "Kuma" who was protecting Sunny. But for the 2 years he was already full machine with no thought aka PX-0. And the bot does what? shoot lasers.
 
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