Sasuke's Lightning Nature

[lswhyte123]

eh ? i never know sasuke use sharingan to copy chidori am pretty sure kakashi teach him that move, and sasuke merely follow kakashi teaching at that time,
and also there is no need to learn rasengan to master chidori,


since chidori is the combination of mid chakra shape manipulation(not as advance like rasengan which already the highest level of chakra shape manipulation)
and nature chakra manipulation.

Kakashi invented Chidori when he was trying to infuse his own Chakra into the rasengan and this resulted in Chidori. I may be wrong, not saying I'm not, but I think this means that to use Chidori at all, you need to already be able to use Rasengan. As Sasuke did not learn Rasengan, he must have IMO watched Kakashi use it and simply copied it with the Sharingan.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Kakashi invented Chidori when he was trying to infuse his own Chakra into the rasengan and this resulted in Chidori. I may be wrong, not saying I'm not, but I think this means that to use Chidori at all, you need to already be able to use Rasengan. As Sasuke did not learn Rasengan, he must have IMO watched Kakashi use it and simply copied it with the Sharingan.

chakra shape manipulation is not limited to rasengan only, it have few stage under the rasengan, u did see when kakashi perform chidori step to step to naruto, u see there is a chakra sphere in his hand and then he add the nature shape manipulation poof there goes chidori,

oh and also two tomoe sharingan can't predict/copy movement

 

[black uchiha]

Sasuke second nature affiliation is lightning that coincidently was also kakashi's.
Regardless, he wouldve discovered this under oro and trained to master his element, with or without oro. To my knowledge kakashi only thought him chidori, yet after we saw sasuke he had about 10 or more lightning based techniques which he either discovered himself or with a bit of help from oro.

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Sasuke's Nature is Lightning. Not because he took to it, because he was born with it...unlike maybeline lol

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He may have recognised it but Orochimaru could not use it nor could he ever show it to anyone.



It is Kakashi's tech.Chidori is a Rasengan which has been fused with the users(Kakashi's Lightning nature). The result was the unstable but highly piercing and mid-range Chidori. Although not as strong as Rasengan, it can pierce more.
Theoretically anyone with a lightning nature and able to use Rasengan, could do it. Sadly, there are very few people who have ever managed to master Rasengan. Naruto, Minato, Jiraiya and to some extent Kakashi.

Lol no just no

last time i checked kakashi said that sasuke take down the lighting affinity train in just a few days even for a genius, he never mention that sasuke use the sharingan to copy his movement

Yeah but that's because Sasuke's nature was lightning. If he hadn't used Sharingan to copy Chidori, then he would have needed to first learn Rasengan, which would make no sense as he never uses it and was surprised when Naruto did.
You understand?

Blaze: Fully agree that this is not what determined his win. I am not trying to take that away from him. I am saying that the Chidori is what Sasuke used to nuliffy the bombs.

Again no

eh ? i never know sasuke use sharingan to copy chidori am pretty sure kakashi teach him that move, and sasuke merely follow kakashi teaching at that time,
and also there is no need to learn rasengan to master chidori,


since chidori is the combination of mid chakra shape manipulation(not as advance like rasengan which already the highest level of chakra shape manipulation)
and nature chakra manipulation.

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Also I need to say you can't be taught an affinity your born with it. And the teachings of kakashi holds no barring on sasuke lightning progression

 

[lswhyte123]

chakra shape manipulation is not limited to rasengan only, it have few stage under the rasengan, u did see when kakashi perform chidori step to step to naruto, u see there is a chakra sphere in his hand and then he add the nature shape manipulation poof there goes chidori,

oh and also two tomoe sharingan can't predict/copy movement

It copied Lee's...jus sayin

 

[lswhyte123]

The Rasengan was designed to use the caster's elemental affinities. Minato was unable to add his affinities to his Rasengan before he died, while Kakashi Hatake tried to add his lightning element to his Rasengan, but was unable to and explains that he created the Chidori and Lightning Cutter instead, which require a certain point of shape and nature manipulation itself. Naruto was the first to add his wind affinity to his Rasengan to create the Wind Release: Rasengan, and even advanced it up to the point that he could create the far more powerful and destructive version, Wind Release: Rasenshuriken.

The above is from Narutopedia.

 

[black uchiha]

chakra shape manipulation is not limited to rasengan only, it have few stage under the rasengan, u did see when kakashi perform chidori step to step to naruto, u see there is a chakra sphere in his hand and then he add the nature shape manipulation poof there goes chidori,

oh and also two tomoe sharingan can't predict/copy movement

Yes it can that's how he copied lee

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

It copied Lee's...jus sayin

its not a high rank jutsu anyway, its just a cheap trick to outflank ur opponent

 

[RAMKAD]

Lightening is a very useful element if that what u mean. Being stronge against 3 elements including lightinen. And only weak to wind. And it was the key to wining all his battles. Or should i say almost..

 

[black uchiha]

Lightening is a very useful element if that what u mean. Being stronge against 3 elements including lightinen. And only weak to water. And it was the key to wining all his battles. Or should i say almost..

Lightning is weak to wind not water

 

[RAMKAD]

Edited it i wanted saying its stronge against water and earth user.

 

[lswhyte123]

its not a high rank jutsu anyway, its just a cheap trick to outflank ur opponent

Look you may be right & I may be right. I personally seem to have a stronger argument than yours.
Naruto uses his clones to hurry his training along and Sasuke his Sharingan.

Do you really think that Kakashi would have made Sasuke simply learn the chakra manipulation from scratch? Could take some time ya know...
Or maybe he made Sasuke use his Sharingan, the same as he did against Lee, and copy the jutsu as they were very short on time.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

i guess uchiha have 2 main affinity
sasuke=fire and lightning
itachi =fire and water

 

[black uchiha]

Look you may be right & I may be right. I personally seem to have a stronger argument than yours.
Naruto uses his clones to hurry his training along and Sasuke his Sharingan.

Do you really think that Kakashi would have made Sasuke simply learn the chakra manipulation from scratch? Could take some time ya know...
Or maybe he made Sasuke use his Sharingan, the same as he did against Lee, and copy the jutsu as they were very short on time.

Sasuke already had some shape manipulation training ie fire balls...etc

 

[MangekyouJ]

Yes it matters. Sasuke needed to use Sharingan to copy Kakashi's movements and thus copy Chidori. Having Lightning nature made it possible for him to use Chidori but seeing it is what made it happen.
Guiding someone to use their skill is one thing but making them copy a direct move that requires a nature is another.

That's what I was trying to tell them, Sasuke used his sharingan to copy the his movements to match Lee's speed. As Gai said, it's all in the thrust....but when you master the jutsu, you don't need to run....and til this day, whenever Sasuke uses any Chidori variant....he's using his sharingan...

And then taught him how to use it...remember when he taught him to focus his chakra to cut leaves in half? He was teaching him how to use his wind affinity.

I guess it's how he was trying to tell him it's common knowledge of what most jounin and kage level nin's know....but thanks for the correction...

It copied Lee's...jus sayin

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