fourth kazekage vs mei terumi

[Akatsuki wise guy]

I've been reading some of the replies to some arguments and there are flaws in both sides.

Mei can ONLY use 3 elements; Earth, Water and Fire. She has 2 KG: lava release, which combines earth and fire and Acidic Mist, which combines water and fire. So far she is the only Naruto Universe character to have those techs. But it would also be inaccurate to assume that she only has those abilities. She could know some basic earth, water and fire techs.

Same goes for the Kazekage, who was shown only using gold sand. But it would be naive to assume he only has those skills.

Now based on what we've seen, Mei has more offensive moves than the Kazekage. What we've seen from her can easily overpower his. Thus, based on what we've seen, Mei wins this.

Also, one of the arguing parties was claiming that lava release was easy to dodge, because Karin "dodged it". Thing is, Karin didn't dodge it, because the attack was not AIMED at her. She just reacted to something that was close to her. Madara is another matter entirely, because of the sharingan. I hope this helps a little to settle some arguments.

her moves cant overpower his at all he can summon more in less time as he needs to do 1 seal and touch the ground to summon the equivalent of this

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and she however has to do 6 hand seals and gather it in her mouth and relesase this much

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which as you can see takes longer to come and the amount is much smaller.

 

[kuramaitachdara]

he can easily cover himself in sand to protect himself if he doesnt know where she is. he can send the sand in all directions dispersing the mist and trampling the mist and crushing her.

dude. 3 elements 2 KG Genkai making 2 other elements. versus sand and gold basically.

he wouldn't be able to probably defend from all her attacks. as sson as she makes her offensive moves, he is cooked like Gaara. Water and fire and mist against sand, as well as Earth and water for protection, Acidic mist that melts down susanoo and lava for even the most dense protection made of gold.
Dude do you even have any idea what happens to gold if thrown itno volcano? think about it. don;t underestimate the lava just because Sussanoo wasn't conquered as easily. don't forget it was an ultimate legendary Mangekyou Sharingan technique made by someone as powerful as Madara himself.
it wouldn't even take seconds to melt gold. it takes way less in our world anyways

 

[kuramaitachdara]

as most people already said her boil release wont be effective in the outdoors.

did someone say they were fighting outdoors yet? mist is effective as seen with Zabuza. it's just not long range

 

[wisogon71]

as most people already said her boil release wont be effective in the outdoors.

You mean like the hidden mist technique?

her moves cant overpower his at all he can summon more in less time as he needs to do 1 seal and touch the ground to summon the equivalent of this

And you know this, how? In a manga/anime when we no longer see ninjas do seals, how do you even know the speed in which anyone can make a seal?

And we have already mentioned Mei uses 3 elements. Are you naive to think that she doesn't know any of the basic element techs just because we haven't seen it in the manga? What if she showers the gold dust with a water attack making it heavier and useless? She wouldn't have been named Mizukage for nothing.

And before you start spouting out insults, this is ALL SPECULATION. We haven't seen enough of either combatant to ascertain their abilities.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

You mean like the hidden mist technique?



And you know this, how? In a manga/anime when we no longer see ninjas do seals, how do you even know the speed in which anyone can make a seal?

And we have already mentioned Mei uses 3 elements. Are you naive to think that she doesn't know any of the basic element techs just because we haven't seen it in the manga? What if she showers the gold dust with a water attack making it heavier and useless? She wouldn't have been named Mizukage for nothing.

And before you start spouting out insults, this is ALL SPECULATION. We haven't seen enough of either combatant to ascertain their abilities.

well we have to base it on what we have seen and she hasnt shown a water technique like that so it doesnt count. and the water wont make gold heavier that makes no sense even if it is small gold particles.
and i wont insult you so calm down.
and as for the hand seals im just saying he can hit her before she can hit him. and his gold sand will beat her stupid lava out of the fact he just has more.

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

dude. 3 elements 2 KG Genkai making 2 other elements. versus sand and gold basically.

he wouldn't be able to probably defend from all her attacks. as sson as she makes her offensive moves, he is cooked like Gaara. Water and fire and mist against sand, as well as Earth and water for protection, Acidic mist that melts down susanoo and lava for even the most dense protection made of gold.
Dude do you even have any idea what happens to gold if thrown itno volcano? think about it. don;t underestimate the lava just because Sussanoo wasn't conquered as easily. don't forget it was an ultimate legendary Mangekyou Sharingan technique made by someone as powerful as Madara himself.
it wouldn't even take seconds to melt gold. it takes way less in our world anyways

it doesnt matter what nature types she has if she hasnt shown a technique in that element than it is out of the question. thats like me saying mu can just blow away his enemy in a close quarter fight based on the fact he has wind yet he hasnt shown a wind technique so i cant count it.
and people are underestimating the kazekage he did defeat the shukaku.
and her lava attack can only hit such a small portion of a huge wave so she cant get it all and she will get crushed.

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

Came back to check on the thread - it seems Mei is the choice! And the correct one at that.

Her moveset outweighs what we saw from the kazekage. if she can withstand a wave of gold dust she wins outright. somehow i think she will survive.

 

[wisogon71]

well we have to base it on what we have seen and she hasnt shown a water technique like that so it doesnt count. and the water wont make gold heavier that makes no sense even if it is small gold particles.
and i wont insult you so calm down.
and as for the hand seals im just saying he can hit her before she can hit him. and his gold sand will beat her stupid lava out of the fact he just has more.

So, you're basing your theory on the fact that the Kazekage can summon great amounts of gold dust, while Mei is only using little amounts of lava because that's what's been shown in the manga.

If you want to put out a match, you can blow it or drop a little water in it. If you want to put out a forest fire, you need lots of water. My point is the Kazekage had to summon a great amount of gold dust to counter an equal amount of sand going his way.

Mei has been show to attack both Sasuke and Madara with her lava. Since she was only attacking individuals, she only needed the right amount.

I guess my point is we don't know how much gold dust or lava either of the combatants can generate, given the situation they are facing. However, we have seen Mei use her other KG, while we only saw the Kazekage use one attack. In the hands of a skilled shinobi (or in this case a Kage) two is better than one always, which is why Mei would win this.

And in closing, while most people have tried to change the others' opinion, let me assure you I am not trying to do that. Just having a friendly exchange of opinions with another naruto fan.

 

[tazze019]

So, you're basing your theory on the fact that the Kazekage can summon great amounts of gold dust, while Mei is only using little amounts of lava because that's what's been shown in the manga.

If you want to put out a match, you can blow it or drop a little water in it. If you want to put out a forest fire, you need lots of water. My point is the Kazekage had to summon a great amount of gold dust to counter an equal amount of sand going his way.

Mei has been show to attack both Sasuke and Madara with her lava. Since she was only attacking individuals, she only needed the right amount.

I guess my point is we don't know how much gold dust or lava either of the combatants can generate, given the situation they are facing. However, we have seen Mei use her other KG, while we only saw the Kazekage use one attack. In the hands of a skilled shinobi (or in this case a Kage) two is better than one always, which is why Mei would win this.

And in closing, while most people have tried to change the others' opinion, let me assure you I am not trying to do that. Just having a friendly exchange of opinions with another naruto fan.

We can not put a baseless assumption here... There is no proof that she can create such a huge amount of lava.

Came back to check on the thread - it seems Mei is the choice! And the correct one at that.

Her moveset outweighs what we saw from the kazekage. if she can withstand a wave of gold dust she wins outright. somehow i think she will survive.

She is not fast, She hasn't shown any defensive technique that can withstand that tsunami gold sand. Gold Sand is much heavier than Sand so I assume that it is way more powerful than Gaara's Sand. A powerful force that can crush flesh into pieces. Kimimaro needs his bone armor to survive.

 

[SebastionM]

Yea. I would say we can. There are other lava users who've created more lava. Its obvious she can create more. Shes a kage, dont underrestimate her.

 

[tazze019]

Yea. I would say we can. There are other lava users who've created more lava. Its obvious she can create more. Shes a kage, dont underrestimate her.

and he is a Kage as well...

 

[SebastionM]

and he is a Kage as well...

Lmao, there is no other lava user that's a kage.

 

[tazze019]

Lmao, there is no other lava user that's a kage.

I didn't say that. I said Gaara's dad is a kage. LMAO

 

[SebastionM]

I didn't say that. I said Gaara's dad is a kage. LMAO

Damn, don't you deserve a clap...Good job, I would never have guessed that the fourth kazekage is a KAGE. I'm glad you pointed that out, cause the title didn't state that clear enough.

 

[wisogon71]

We can not put a baseless assumption here... There is no proof that she can create such a huge amount of lava.



She is not fast, She hasn't shown any defensive technique that can withstand that tsunami gold sand. Gold Sand is much heavier than Sand so I assume that it is way more powerful than Gaara's Sand. A powerful force that can crush flesh into pieces. Kimimaro needs his bone armor to survive.

So we can put baseless assumptions if it's convenient. LOL

 

[morseyep]

I am up for Mei, they are the new generation so they have to overcome them. Lava IMO is more stronger then gold dust... xD

 

[Sai Bomb]

Yea. I would say we can. There are other lava users who've created more lava. Its obvious she can create more. Shes a kage, dont underrestimate her.

Man dude relax , it's one thing to debate, but don't get so worked up! We're all just trying to have a good time

 

[Rayder]

I am up for Mei, they are the new generation so they have to overcome them. Lava IMO is more stronger then gold dust... xD

Just because she is the new generation doesn't mean she automatically wins.
By the way she is not the new generation,the new generation is Naruto and others of equal age.

 

[Dracule Mihawk]

well, I say kazekage..

 

[PainIsGod]

her moves cant overpower his at all he can summon more in less time as he needs to do 1 seal and touch the ground to summon the equivalent of this

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and she however has to do 6 hand seals and gather it in her mouth and relesase this much

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which as you can see takes longer to come and the amount is much smaller.

I like how you call someone a fanboy of mei when your obviously a fanboy of the kazekage. you cant just assume the wave of gold sand will automatically kill mei shes not a kage for nothing. I dout shes going to sit there in awe while the wave comes at her she has many tech's she can utilize against him and your only argument is "THE ALMIGHTY WAVE OF GOLD SAND"