Why is people saying Nagato > Naruto

[Sai Bomb]

Naruto is way to fast now! It does not matter with linked vision, rinnegan or any of that shit... even if you can see the movements, it's useless unless if your movements can't keep up

 

[BloodSeed]

naruto would just throw huge rocks thousand of rocks at a very fast rate, swings its tails to create tornado, tsunamis etc. now how nagato gonna absorb that????? nagato cant get close to him to touch him because he is crippled hes hand speed and reflexes are the one that is fast because of shared vision thats why he catched naruto and bee that last time



and by the way how could he absorb a tailed beast bomb if its comming to him at highspeed and MASSIVE. nagatos absorbtion tech is SLOW! he can just absorb a small portion of that tbb. that kind of bomb will overwhelm nagato

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look at this ^ take a look at the ground, the ground collapses even it didnt hit the ground im sure nagato will get crumpled before he even touch that thing

 

[Rovian]

Well, Naruto in the end will be strongest character in.. Ahem, Naruto!

 

[Akatsuki wise guy]

first of all naruto didnt defeat pain. is it fair not only did pain not have the ability to use his strongest path for five minutes but naruto also had intel and help. wow.
second im not sure of this current km naruto with the cape but original km naruto got his ass beat. at the same time as bee ass well.

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[Mante]

BM Naruto can defeat Nagato IMO​

 

[kyubbi sagemode]

For the final time naruto is now better than naruto

 

[BloodSeed]

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can nagato absorb this sh*t?

 

[Zetsu X]

Why is you using incorrect grammar?

 

[ImNoOne]

I'm merely stating we dont know for sure, your guess is good as mine. Yes it makes Nagato vulnerable and stationary but thats why I said its a last resort. Also you have to bear in mind the limit on Naruto's BM, if the battle lingers on for more than 5 mins then Naruto is in trouble. It all depends how the fight would start off :shrug:

What should be understand before hand before making any post in a vs thread is that the logic of absolute limits does not work in Naruto. Meaning that if A>B and B>C does not imply that A>C. Who wins a fight as more to do with match ups than it has to do with standard quantitative of power, hence why using the maximums of data book to compare shinobi is stupid unless we're talking about a 20 to 40 or something like that, and even this means very little.

Now to answer your question, Nagato has de ability to absorb chakra and use it as if it was his own. In that sense Bijuu Mode is an enormous pool of chakra from where Nagato would be able to drink, unlike Sage Mode who's chakra would turn Nagato into stone. Yet it is plain obvious that BM is far stronger than SM.

So the question here would lay over two extremely important questions: "Is Nagato fast enough for BM Naruto?" and "Can Nagato absorb a BM TBB?" We truly have no way to answer these questions so to be honest to say Nagato>BM Naruto is just as much speculation than to say BM Naruto>Nagato.

On the other hand if we were talking about Pain and not Nagato, BM Naruto would make soup out of the 6 Paths. And it should be note that having BM does not take Naruto's Sage Mode away. In fact we've seen that Naruto is now able to have a Shadow clone in Sage mode while maintaing BM which mean he can probably have more clones gathering Natural chakra while he is running BM. And that would mean he could probably maintain a fairly constant stream of SM Shadow clones. Who would be very dangerous for Nagato.

But all and all I think it's a pointless question or affirmation as we really have not enough info to answer.

That's what I said in page 3.

 

[lanakau888]

KM naruto would beat nagato.

BM Naruto destroys nagato.

so far, nagato's only support is preta path, which is handily countered by SM clones. Naruto's base clones have been shown to go into sage mode and he has been shown to make 1,000 base clones before gaining KM or BM. Even his sage mode clones can make sage mode clones.

 

[arv993]

first of all naruto didnt defeat pain. is it fair not only did pain not have the ability to use his strongest path for five minutes but naruto also had intel and help. wow.
second im not sure of this current km naruto with the cape but original km naruto got his ass beat. at the same time as bee ass well.

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u forget one thing that was 1/12 of naruto's chakra all his clones were away in that same position if naruto had his clones instead of sending them to the battlefield nagato would be dead by a bunch Sm clones. And he didn't use his summons so thats a very powered down naruto so not a fair comparison its like saying nagato can only use 1 path. But right now he has everything to counter nagato's techs plus with sm naruto would get his ass whooped, there is little chance for nagato to really win.

PPl on nagato's side don't come up with proper rebuttals check out blaze's and 4th hokage's responses they keep saying the same thing big shinra tensei but obviously naruto with kuruma has shown to blow away five tbbs that each destroyed a mountain, plus add the fact that he is fast enough to avoid the tech. There is just no tech nagato has that can beat naruto atm naruto is faster + can tank any attack or negate nagato's (raw power) + has 12 clones for diversion. ANd yet they keep blabbing that nagato can win. Nagato fans are truly in denial really its very clear who's better at the moment Naruto>nagato.

 

[Ron Stoppable]

In fact, Naruto defeated Nagato.

Explain please.

Naruto defeated The 6 Path of Pains. Naruto did not defeat Nagato even when he was Edo. When Nagato was resurrected, Naruto couldn't take him down without the help from Itachi. That is, Nagato was in his Human Form. That is why People are saying "Nagato > Naruto" , I could be wrong, this is my opinion, and this is what I think.

 

[Tosen]

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can nagato absorb this sh*t?

Where does it state preta path has a limit, until then u can't say that Nagato can't absorb kurama tbh.

Rinnegan > bijuu

 

[lanakau888]

u forget one thing that was 1/12 of naruto's chakra all his clones were away in that same position if naruto had his clones instead of sending them to the battlefield nagato would be dead by a bunch Sm clones. And he didn't use his summons so thats a very powered down naruto so not a fair comparison its like saying nagato can only use 1 path. But right now he has everything to counter nagato's techs plus with sm naruto would get his ass whooped, there is little chance for nagato to really win.

I can't agree with you more. People think 'nagato owned bee and naruto' yet they fail to understand something as elementary as naruto having less than 1/13 of his full power and wanting to talk with nagato rather than fight him.

If naruto had the 12 KM clones that were spread out across the battlefields with him to fight nagato, nagato would have gotten destroyed. And the funny thing is that even that wasn't naruto's full power, as he had been in KM for 12 hours prior to making the 12 clones, let alone his battle with nagato.

PPl on nagato's side don't come up with proper rebuttals check out blaze's and 4th hokage's responses they keep saying the same thing big shinra tensei but obviously naruto with kuruma has shown to blow away five tbbs that each destroyed a mountain, plus add the fact that he is fast enough to avoid the tech. There is just no tech nagato has that can beat naruto atm naruto is faster + can tank any attack or negate nagato's (raw power) + has 12 clones for diversion. ANd yet they keep blabbing that nagato can win. Nagato fans are truly in denial really its very clear who's better at the moment.

yep that's basically the nagato's arguement for you:

-naruto has a chakra shield so preta path absorbs it all
- chou shinra tensei

I love it how they forget that nagato has to touch naruto in order to even start absorbing his chakra shroud, something that will be impossible for him to do considering naruto's wtf speed and knowledge. And that naruto can make 100ds of clones go into sage mode, each with the ability to destroy nagato.

and choushinra tensei > 5 bijudamas:flaw:? Can't be outran/dodged:flaw:? Can't be redirected/tanked:flaw:? tsunade and katsuya survived chou shinra tensei...

 

[arv993]

Where does it state preta path has a limit, until then u can't say that Nagato can't absorb kurama tbh.

Rinnegan > bijuu

that is true but i think there is a limit to how much he can absorb at once but that my guess.

 

[Tosen]

that is true but i think there is a limit to how much he can absorb at once but that my guess.

Yea you think but there is no facts to support it. Preta path has the ability to absorb chakra and tbb is pure chakra.

 

[arv993]

I can't agree with you more. People think 'nagato owned bee and naruto' yet they fail to understand something as elementary as naruto having less than 1/13 of his full power and wanting to talk with nagato rather than fight him.

If naruto had the 12 KM clones that were spread out across the battlefields with him to fight nagato, nagato would have gotten destroyed. And the funny thing is that even that wasn't naruto's full power, as he had been in KM for 12 hours prior to making the 12 clones, let alone his battle with nagato.



yep that's basically the nagato's arguement for you:

-naruto has a chakra shield so preta path absorbs it all
- chou shinra tensei

I love it how they forget that nagato has to touch naruto in order to even start absorbing his chakra shroud, something that will be impossible for him to do considering naruto's wtf speed and knowledge. And that naruto can make 100ds of clones go into sage mode, each with the ability to destroy nagato.

and choushinra tensei > 5 bijudamas:flaw:? Can't be outran/dodged:flaw:? Can't be redirected/tanked:flaw:? tsunade and katsuya survived chou shinra tensei...

thank you for understanding but i don't think 100 sm clones is the most efficient but he can definitely make enough to get one or more hit with frog katas.

they can even use kuruma's body to protect them and also gives them speed like how kakashi and gai were able to sit on it.

Chou shinra tensei is slower than regular and it won't kill naruto in BM Mode by any means but naruto can kill nagato easily since he can't take a direct hit really since he is pretty fragile.

 

[arv993]

Yea you think but there is no facts to support it. Preta path has the ability to absorb chakra and tbb is pure chakra.

i didn't disagree with u i kno preta can absorb chakra but i am saying i think (my guess) NOT FAct just something i believe is that he can't absorb it all of it an instant but takes time but that may be wrong.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

He already defeated Nagato so.

People saying Nagato > Naruto are just retarded right ?

You have a point but the way you're expressing it is retarded, you're acting like a fanboy.

Consider Nagato's strength, we haven't seen all of it. He was only sealed because of Susano'o's Totsuka Sword.

Let's say Nagato can absorb an unlimited amount of chakra, Naruto would be stripped of his power. It's pure chakra. Unless he's in Sage Mode and Bijuu Mode at the same time using one body, he can win.

Nagato possesses the Rinnegan, a doujutsu that defeated the Juubi. I'm sure that Nagato is proficient, maybe even has mastery, over Rinnegan. I'm not sure exactly how he will beat Naruto but the Rinnegan is an extremely powerful doujutsu, in my opinion it's underrated because Nagato sacrificed himself and people mistook it for Naruto defeating and killing him.

 

[Tosen]

i didn't disagree with u i kno preta can absorb chakra but i am saying i think (my guess) NOT FAct just something i believe is that he can't absorb it all of it an instant but takes time but that may be wrong.

I know bro


has to Nagato vs Naruto battle, I really don't know the outcome of it lots of factors play into a fight and I need to see a bit more of Naruto (even though we have seen alot) so for now i will say that the only character for sure that can beat Naruto or have a decent chance are Tobi with his 6 jinchurki paths and Kabuto with his edo army.

IMO edo Madara and Nagato are up in the air for now