Why is people saying Nagato > Naruto

[Ambriel]

i didn't disagree with u i kno preta can absorb chakra but i am saying i think (my guess) NOT FAct just something i believe is that he can't absorb it all of it an instant but takes time but that may be wrong.

I believe this

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[arv993]

I know bro


has to Nagato vs Naruto battle, I really don't know the outcome of it lots of factors play into a fight and I need to see a bit more of Naruto (even though we have seen alot) so for now i will say that the only character for sure that can beat Naruto or have a decent chance are Tobi with his 6 jinchurki paths and Kabuto with his edo army.

IMO edo Madara and Nagato are up in the air for now

if u think about it kabuto is the strongest person even more so then tobi becoz of edo tensei. I think madara is on tobi level and he has mokuton if thats useful against naruto then he can win but i guess we need more info on that Madara.

 

[arv993]

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u kno i told u in the statement that it was my belief not fact idk why u want to show a naruto wiki link. a lot of times techs have a weakness and i "think" like samehada preta has a limit per time but bigger ofcourse but like i said its my belief or thought not fact.

 

[Tosen]

if u think about it kabuto is the strongest person even more so then tobi becoz of edo tensei. I think madara is on tobi level and he has mokuton if thats useful against naruto then he can win but i guess we need more info on that Madara.

Of course if you include the edo army Kabuto is the strongest when has guys like edo Nagato, edo Madara, Edo Itachi, edo akatsuki and kages thats OP right there.

I think current Tobi is stronger then edo Madara bec of the 6 jinchurkis under his control and you got to admit the s/t jutsu would be tricky even for Madara to handle. Which is why Tobi is the strongest rinnegan user seen so far besides the sage imo (suprised u didn't I arv993, u thought I was gonna say Nagato xd)

 

[arv993]

Of course if you include the edo army Kabuto is the strongest when has guys like edo Nagato, edo Madara, Edo Itachi, edo akatsuki and kages thats OP right there.

I think current Tobi is stronger then edo Madara bec of the 6 jinchurkis under his control and you got to admit the s/t jutsu would be tricky even for Madara to handle. Which is why Tobi is the strongest rinnegan user seen so far besides the sage imo (suprised u didn't I arv993, u thought I was gonna say Nagato xd)

i guess a lil bit. Tobi vs madara is tricky it depends they both can control bijus through rinnegan but also remember that madara can use mokuton which can also suppress and control the bijus so the control of the bijus is tricky. But s/t is obviously a problem and idk how madara can touch him and beat him like that but i guess we have to see all of the powers those two can offer.

What made u change ur mind that tobi is better with rinnegan

 

[Tosen]

i guess a lil bit. Tobi vs madara is tricky it depends they both can control bijus through rinnegan but also remember that madara can use mokuton which can also suppress and control the bijus so the control of the bijus is tricky. But s/t is obviously a problem and idk how madara can touch him and beat him like that but i guess we have to see all of the powers those two can offer.

What made u change ur mind that tobi is better with rinnegan

And I can not wait till we find out what those two can really do.But based on this it's clear that the rinnegan is the best weapon against fighting a bijuu, The strongest rinnegan user defeated the strongest bijuu I know that doesn't mean anything here but it does show that the rinnegan has and can defeat a bijuu.

Oh Tobi has always been my second fav character and I believe his stronger with the 6 jinchurki paths obviously and s/t but I still believe that Nagato is the better user not necessarily the strongest, but the way Tobi has been working latly this statement might get blown out of the waters and Nagato might have to drop down if u will xd, it also proves we need to see more from Tobi and Madara.

 

[BloodSeed]

Where does it state preta path has a limit, until then u can't say that Nagato can't absorb kurama tbh.

Rinnegan > bijuu

wtf im talking about the roar!!!!!! that created a thrust!

 

[arv993]

And I can not wait till we find out what those two can really do.But based on this it's clear that the rinnegan is the best weapon against fighting a bijuu, The strongest rinnegan user defeated the strongest bijuu I know that doesn't mean anything here but it does show that the rinnegan has and can defeat a bijuu.

Oh Tobi has always been my second fav character and I believe his stronger with the 6 jinchurki paths obviously and s/t but I still believe that Nagato is the better user not necessarily the strongest

i don't think rinnegan is the best way to beat a biju actually mokuton is but yea sharingan abilities can also control bijus and sharingan is part of the rinnegan's power. I guess both the body and eyes can control bijus. rinnegan isn't the only source of power for sage his body is too but so far kishi has not shown what crap a strong body with good chakra can do to a full extent aka senju's strength. I think there is too much of a focus on eyes and its power.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

because nagato have a decent chance to beat current naruto.

 

[Tosen]

i don't think rinnegan is the best way to beat a biju actually mokuton is but yea sharingan abilities can also control bijus and sharingan is part of the rinnegan's power. I guess both the body and eyes can control bijus. rinnegan isn't the only source of power for sage his body is too but so far kishi has not shown what crap a strong body with good chakra can do to a full extent aka senju's strength. I think there is too much of a focus on eyes and its power.

Yeah I meant direct fighting has going blow for blow which the rinnegan is the best at, both mokuton and sharingan might be a better alternative because rather then fighting direct like the rinnegan they can just control the bijuu.

And I know we need to see what the body can do, some say naruto has shown it but he mostly showed the power of the bijuu and not the body. I have a fealing that were gonna see the body in action for the first time in a flashback chapter/episode of Madara vs Hashirama, that fight is gonna be so epic when they show it.

 

[arv993]

Yeah I meant direct fighting has going blow for blow which the rinnegan is the best at, both mokuton and sharingan might be a better alternative because rather then fighting direct like the rinnegan they can just control the bijuu.

And I know we need to see what the body can do, some say naruto has shown it but he mostly showed the power of the bijuu and not the body. I have a fealing that were gonna see the body in action for the first time in a flashback chapter/episode of Madara vs Hashirama, that fight is gonna be so epic when they show it.

yea ppl who say naruto are talking about what the full potential of using a jinchurki and that is also very strong but yea like u said hashirama probably would demonstrate it. i guess madara and tobi can also demonstrate it but there is not a distinct ability like for example rinnegan which is the pinnacle of the power of the eyes.

 

[Tosen]

yea ppl who say naruto are talking about what the full potential of using a jinchurki and that is also very strong but yea like u said hashirama probably would demonstrate it. i guess madara and tobi can also demonstrate it but there is not a distinct ability like for example rinnegan which is the pinnacle of the power of the eyes.

Yea thats what I mean there isn;t a distinction for the body like there is for the eys (sharingan,rinnegan).

Now that I think about it though Nagato somewhat displayed the body by displaying his stamina when he invaded konoha and battled Naruto/kurama and the toads and still revived the village.I guess Madara and Tobi with there zetsu (hashirama dna) have the body somewhat.

And the other problem is that other tribes and non senju.uzumaki fellows have strong bodies like the raikages and most jinchurkis

 

[zombiejesus]

Poeple nagato is stronger and im not talking about the 6 paths.
Naruto's new mode would be food for nagato.

lol haters hate

 

[uchihaa118]

naruto>nagato face it. hes stronger and faster in his new form and would totally own him..

 

[SwordmanOfTheMist]

Again...?

1) Naruto had a hard time fighting Nagato EVEN after Nagato fought him AFTER DESTROYING A VILLAGE.

2) It was not a 1v1. Nagato alone, with his Six Paths of Pain, fought against many other opponents, which include Kakashi, Chouji and his father, etc. And not to mention, the rest of the ninjas he fought to find out naruto's location.

3) Naruto had had help from the toads... or frogs? (Gamabunta etc.)

4) Konoha had intel Nagato and the Akatsuki, while Nagato had no knowledge of Naruto's abilities.

5) Even Konohamaru played a part.

It just means that the whole village was against Nagato. However, Naruto was the only one who could make use of the advantage he had and, barely, won Nagato. In fact, all he did was to defeat the Six Paths of Pain, NOT Nagato. So, IMO, Naruto + SM was never enough to become stronger than nagato.

 

[Smirk]

I thought Naruto did bead Nagato... aka Pain ? I just don't understand what are they trying to say he defeated him ?

Please can someone explain please, I really don't get it ?

Naruto > Nagato

Nagato>Pain(s)
Naruto>pain(s)

Nagato vs Naruto (currently in the manga)
would be an insane battle but i would have to go with Nagato winning BARELY just because it took BEE,ITACHI, AND NARUTO to seal a controlled Nagato (with restricted movements)

 

[lanakau888]

Again...?

1) Naruto had a hard time fighting Nagato EVEN after Nagato fought him AFTER DESTROYING A VILLAGE.

2) It was not a 1v1. Nagato alone, with his Six Paths of Pain, fought against many other opponents, which include Kakashi, Chouji and his father, etc. And not to mention, the rest of the ninjas he fought to find out naruto's location.

3) Naruto had had help from the toads... or frogs? (Gamabunta etc.)

4) Konoha had intel Nagato and the Akatsuki, while Nagato had no knowledge of Naruto's abilities.

5) Even Konohamaru played a part.

It just means that the whole village was against Nagato. However, Naruto was the only one who could make use of the advantage he had and, barely, won Nagato. In fact, all he did was to defeat the Six Paths of Pain, NOT Nagato. So, IMO, Naruto + SM was never enough to become stronger than nagato.

sure current SM naruto loses to nagato. But KM and BM naruto have feats that easily put him above nagato.

Nagato>Pain(s)
Naruto>pain(s)

Nagato vs Naruto (currently in the manga)
would be an insane battle but i would have to go with Nagato winning BARELY just because it took BEE,ITACHI, AND NARUTO to seal a controlled Nagato (with restricted movements)

correction, it took bee, itachi, and an insanely restricted naruto (who was trying to talk throughout most of the fight) to destroy chibaku tensei.

And prime nagato would have been just as fast as the nagato that was sealed, and edo nagato relied on his regen at least once during battle.

 

[Narutominato5]

Maybe, but have u of the sayin: TO MUCH OF EVERYTHING IS BAD. If nagato absorped too much of Kurama's chakra, it could be dangerous to his health. Also there is still sage mode whose chakra can turn anybody to STONE.

 

[Ultimatevirus]

nagato can absorb jutsus(chakra)... nagato beats naruto

 

[Baldy]

I still reckon Nagato is a bit stronger than Naruto atm still, but Naruto when he COMPLETELY controls the kyuubi, like when he can stay in that new mode for a longer period of time, Naruto will surpass Nagato