jiraya SM,with maa,paa vs naruto sm 2 bushins in store

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Stupid people who say jiraiya are stupid. TROLOLOL.

Its a fact that Naruto SM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jiraiya SM

Jiraiya > 3 PP (paths of pain)

6 PP > jiraiya

Naruto > 6 pp
By the way Naruto had info on all of them and started in SM, Jiraiya had no info and started of without SM. Jiraiya defeated 3 peins (1 of them twice) he could have taken more easily if he didn't put down his guard.

Also Naruto would have been slaughtered without info and also in the end he actually lost to pein but was saved by Hinata.

So practically naruto lost to pein.

Jiraiya will win this... even if fight fast doesn't work he can just prolong the battle until naruto is not able to stay in SM.

Jiraiya is more than capable of handling naruto SM.
 

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Jman with Toads would win.

Toad Genjutsu would Wreck naruto.

It has already been said that Naruto has surpassed Jiraiya in SM.
Surpassing someone and Beating them In Combat are Different things.

Stupid people who say jiraiya are stupid. TROLOLOL.

Its a fact that Naruto SM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jiraiya SM

Jiraiya > 3 PP (paths of pain)

6 PP > jiraiya

Naruto > 6 pp
Your Logic is SO bad.

Naruto has Surpassed Jiraiya By mastering Sage mode, Jiraiya is still Far more experienced and versatile than Naruto.
Without Ma and Pa i have no Doubt naruto would win but still it wouldn't be easy.

Just Because A > B and B > C doesn't mean A > C.

C might have a Jutsu's that Counter A or that A is weak against. So your A > B > C Logic is flawed.

Take Sasuke Vs deidara for Example. deidara was Stronger than Sasuke, Yet sasuke Won because he had Jutsu's that deidara's Jutsu's were weak against. That Played a Huge role in their fight.
 
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Correct surpassing and defeating a person is two different things, it is true naruto has surpassed jiraiya but if naruto is not allowed KM, or anything to do with Kurama, then jiraiya would win this.
 

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Stupid people who say jiraiya are stupid. TROLOLOL.

Its a fact that Naruto SM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jiraiya SM

Jiraiya > 3 PP (paths of pain)

6 PP > jiraiya

Naruto > 6 pp
Naruto transformed into 8 tails Kyuubi, if it weren't for that naruto never would have won the fight.

Also Naruto's weakness is genjutsu, and the toad song genjutsu is one of the strongest genjutsu's we have ever seen in Naruto, Naruto also is a close combat fighter who doesn't know of the Genjutsu as he has never had the chance of using it thanks to Kurama, Naruto would most likely get caught in it with very little difficulty
 

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By the way Naruto had info on all of them and started in SM, Jiraiya had no info and started of without SM. Jiraiya defeated 3 peins (1 of them twice) he could have taken more easily if he didn't put down his guard.

Also Naruto would have been slaughtered without info and also in the end he actually lost to pein but was saved by Hinata.

So practically naruto lost to pein.

Jiraiya will win this... even if fight fast doesn't work he can just prolong the battle until naruto is not able to stay in SM.

Jiraiya is more than capable of handling naruto SM.
this^^ +rep
 

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Jiraiya, Pain said himself that if Jiraiya knew his secret he would've been beaten. Jiraiya doesn't need Kyuubi to defeat Pain if he had info, Naruto did.
 

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Oh i just remembered something... Fukasaku has that stick, if he slaps you the nature chakra dissappears?

Well doesn't matter Jiraiya is way more than capable of handling naruto SM and naruto up to 4-6 tails.
 
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