Why are you atheists/agnostic?

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kaka96

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sorry but i cant provide you whit English content but that doesn't mean
that I'm lying

I know, I'd just like to actually understand what they're saying
 

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Link still not working wtf? XD
And if you read my link, well, you should know by now that they have almost nothing in common, people just look at the name and ''omg u worshipzz de devilz ur going do helz u prob cut yur wrist u stuupid ***''
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Today's standard meaning of the term "santanism". And no, if you bothered to read what I'm saying rather than ignore it due to your own personal belief, you'd understand that you're wrong here.

You're either A.) Not from America, B.) From some different sort of religion, or lastly (worst case scenario) C.) An incompetent person who refuses to take provided information into consideration. No offense intended.
 

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My two cents: The main reason i do not believe in god, is lack of evidence of him in it of himself.
 

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no way that means that the documentary was a lie the theory most be new
 

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Here we go:

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Today's standard meaning of the term "santanism". And no, if you bothered to read what I'm saying rather than ignore it due to your personal belief, you'd understand that you're wrong.

You're either A.) Not from America, or B.) From some different sort of religion, or lastly (worst case scenario) C.) An incompetent person who refuses to take information provided for you into consideration. No offense intended.

Oops, noticed nothing wrong with that pic, just mis-leading.

THIS is the last time i'll put this here:

Read it!

Anyway it's 5:04 AM and im going to sleep...
 
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Oops, noticed nothing wrong with that pic, just mis-leading.

THIS is the last time i'll put this here:

Read it!

Ah, angelfire... It's been a long time since I last visited it... It was my first approach to real magic. (Yeah, I'm an atheist who practices magic, what's your problem? :p If you want to know what's the logic behind it, just PM me, I won't talk about it here)
 

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Ah, angelfire... It's been a long time since I last visited it... It was my first approach to real magic. (Yeah, I'm an atheist who practices magic, what's your problem? :p If you want to know what's the logic behind it, just PM me, I won't talk about it here)

the only real magic existing is dark magic.
 

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Looks like you're mixing in those fake variations

THIS is the last time i'll put this here:

Oh God. Oh dear God.. I tried to tolerate you because you appeared to be someone simply misinformed on the term "santanism," but I'm done here.

To sum this up:

1.) Yeah, it makes sense that I'd put in "fake variants" when I was trying to help you understand the meaning of a word to further prevent you from looking like an idiot in the future.

2.) Giving me that URL didn't work for you the past several times, why would it work now? I'll answer that for you— it wouldn't. Simply because I'm aware that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about at this point.

3.) The website you provided is third-party. That isn't official, accurate, nor reliable documentation on the term. And judging by the content of it was made by an idiot at that. What I provided you was a minimalist, reliable resource (hint: minimal). There are numerous other resources to invalidate your definition for the term satanism. Resource is emphasized because you made the allegation of me "putting in fake variants." is the full definition of the English term satanism and a to the documentation from Wikipedia as opposed to you distributing a completely unreliable, self-made website hosted on Angelfire.

Need I say more? I wouldn't hope so. But at this point I don't know what to expect considering you've failed to understand a relatively simple concept.

Have a nice day.
 

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the only real magic existing is dark magic.

No.

When evil people do amazingly supernatural things its called magic, but when god does it its called a miracle? How does that even compute. God does magic I call it how I see it.
 

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Whose bias do you seek? Socrates explains it best
 

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I believe in God, but not the ridiculousness that the Bible tries to teach. Science has already disproved a lot of the ideas in it, such as the world being only 6,000 years old. Also, the idea that if you arent on particular religion you go to hell is ludicrous.ALL religions hold the same core beliefs, they just name them differently.
 
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Agnostic here.

I tend to drift in thought about religion from time to time, probably why i'm agnostic now.

I just ended up thinking that the Holy Book was simply written by one seriously deluded guy. It was discovered, people blindly followed it. At some point God emerged, then a script for you're lives and how it shall be lived. We all play the same character. Someone thought that a thing or two didn't make sense, so they came out with V2. So people finally applied logic, wrongly so imo, and simply thought ' its the newer version' ' it must have more answers or whatever'...No questions asked...For now. People continued to believe; they continue to be clones of one another.

As time went on, there were more people who decided that something didn't make sense. Once again, it was time to edit. The same old logic was applied and since everyone thought the same thing ( Clones ) no questions were asked... Uh Oh, Uh Oh, what is this ? ' God does not exist '. Well, i just imagined this guy got seriously fucked up ( Contradiction ) and he pretty much gave birth to scientist.

Big Bang theory was known to all. Mind fuckery everywhere. Some people lost faith; their confusion overwhelmed them. Yada Yada Yaah. Humanity is now serving division.

And then there was this thread.

Religion = Tree... Roots are all the same. It's the branches causing the
division.

This will probably seem like the biggest bullshit you've ever read.
**** me, i got lost in my own thoughts one too many times typing this shit up.

ooooh man that was good, i couldnt stop laughing, good point too +rep
 

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Keeping my cool, I am an Atheist simply because I don't believe it's possible for one supernatural being to have created the Earth and control it. Science explains so much more with reasons and facts that I have learned to not leave my faith in a higher power that I don't know exists or not, but it makes a lot more sense to put faith in the human race. We have progressed on our own to make our own purpose, and explain things people didn't know how to explain before. You don't need a supernatural being to give you a purpose in life or to explain everything in the universe.

Yes but isn't that the fun of it we don't know if God or any other god exists or not!? Yes science tells us many spectacular things but the more we know about our own solar system the less we seem to know. We will never know until far in the future wether there's life in the galaxy because every star u see in the night sky the light coming from it is over 10 million years old! We will never know this especially what is the center of the universe? Yes we live our lives they we want to but people choose to believe in things because it gives us hope. The bible is a symbol of Christianity, why? Because we make it a symbol without us the bible would be another book lost in time but it isn't. They say for every reality, every discision u make has a infinite number of outcomes or infinite number of things we could have done. So yes science is fascinating but don't u ever ask ur self what happens after death?
 

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I believe in God, but not the ridiculousness that the Bible tries to teach. Science has already disproved a lot of the ideas in it, such as the world being only 6,000 years old. Also, the idea that if you arent on particular religion you go to hell is ludicrous.ALL religions hold the same core beliefs, they just name them differently.

Exactly I tried to tell a friend it's over 2 billion and he was so arragont he even went as far as to try and correct our science teacher on how old the earth was! I was like:flaw: And I agree with both science and the bible but I do not for a minute think that man could hav lived with the dinosaurs hah that's we're I'm an expertiece comes in at dinosaurs:)
 

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Don't bite my head off or anything, but I'm going to tread shark infested waters with a sub machine gun and ask a couple of million dollar questions and say...

...what do atheists have to lose to believe in a religion? It's not as if you can say " Ha ha! I told you so!" if by some preposterous fluke that there isn't an afterlife/Lord Almighty.

I seek truth, try to be consequent and try to see reality as it is, kinda my way of roling ;). since most of the religions that i've heard of give me the feeling that they are a tool made of humans to blind and control other people, i oppose the idea of blindly believing into something that doesnt make sense to me and may influence my gaze for reality even further.

To make it even worse, there are 5 major and a ton of minor religions who all tell you that if you dont believe in their and only their god, you'll go to hell (more or less) or at least be punished. therefore even if a god exists, the chances to follow the right religion is pretty low, therefore following a religion is even less attractive.

Last and most importantly: I dont say that i'm sure that a god doesnt exist (although 'god' is quite an undefined word), but even if a god exists, he doesnt seem to care about what happens on this planet. An almighty being should in my eyes use it's power to create a world that not is so full of pain and death, so either the gods are immoral or indifferent. in either cases i dont see a reason to follow him.

Also number 2 question. Is it because you just want freedom in general from practicing any religious beliefs? I know I know, it's a chore and as a Christian myself I don't necessarily follow everything that the Bible says because I guess that's just the way I roll.

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I guess that's all I wanted to say for now.

Thoughts? Discuss. (Keep it clean though so this thread doesn't get closed)

if you dont believe in a god, you'll one day notice that this life is probably the only one you will ever get. therefore spending time to pray is a waste of limited time. Since it's often daily, it is a lot of time overall.

it is to some extend also to gain freedom in general. religions always want thankfulness and service, and i dont see a reason to serve anybody and especially not somebody who doesnt even personally comes to me meet me.

overall i dont see a single reason to follow a religion, it's in my eyes only a way deceiving one-self.
 

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God does exist, and in fact, atheists believe in that subconsciously. Let's be honest, if you were on a plane and it was about to crash, for every 10 atheists 9-10/10 would definitely cry out to God naturally. It has happened numerous times. It's natural, you cannot deny it no matter how staunch of an atheist you are, it will naturally occur. In fact, even people who believe in God experience the same natural feeling. Example: Someone who believes in God but isn't religious is in a dilemma, lets just say he needs to pay off a debt by tomorrow. This person, who is very weak in faith and doesn't take religion that seriously, I swear to God will literally stand hours in prayer supplicating to God asking for help. No matter how nonreligious the person may think he is during a time of need he will definitely sprout and jump to prayer if he's in hopelessness and all hope has been lost.

This happens to all of us, including myself. The TIMES when I pray the most are the times when I'm in trouble, you'll find copious individuals who take religion lightly, but right when they're in a time of need then you'll find them acting religious and invoking God, asking for help etc.

I don't care how agnostic a person thinks he is, deep down in his heart he has an inclination to God, which is revealed when in need.

This could be the result of social intrusions and people trying to assert their beliefs onto others. If someone is about to crash a vehicle they will naturally apply the brakes. This isn't because deep down in their heart they have an inclination towards brakes but more because it's a trained and rehearsed reaction.

I was raised by a Christian mother and was made to attend church every Sunday morning from as early as I can remember. Up until around age 13-14 I believed their was a god not because I actually wanted to believe it but rather I had spent the majority of my life being told that I had to believe in one or I'd suffer for not doing so.

My reason for not believing in a religion is because of the contradictions that are present in the world. I agree with the message of love and understanding that religions preach however then turning around and saying that those beliefs don't extend to certain groups based on things like sexuality/beliefs just seems wrong.

As far as I'm concerned I'm a good person who treats others with due respect. Why do I need to be associated with a religion when I already live by my own set of morals?
 
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Actually Nupp
Yes it does
We have no proof that god made this earth
we also dont have no proof dinosaures existed. we NEVER seen them. Bones? thats not facts. Their just bones

but its kinda odd. If you read the bible. ALOT of things their saying is coming true
so thats proof enough

Dinosaur bones. They aren't real things anymore.

Biblical prophecies on the other hand are all true.

Facts, apparently they can be whatever you want them to be nowadays.
 
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