Naruto getting to powerful

[twistedlink]

6th hokage-yes i was condescening, however thats because i felt you was being patronising to me, and personally attacking me with little point.

You are very head-set on trying to undermine what im saying, yet neutrino said, in a fact like manner "itachis gift is stronger than amaterasu"

when theres 0% evidence for that.

At least what im saying has some tangible evidence, even if i do misunderstand a few points.

But i dont see you making a massive post of how he doesnt understand etc etc, im just wondering why only my posts are being singled out when there are other posts who have weird mentalities that make no sense???

Because im from UK i watch cricket?

stereotype much?

Cricket is boring, never watched it, never will do, the same goes for football (soccer) rugby, and any other sport

can't we just stick 2 talking about naruto

we are, im just pointing out kishi has wrote naruto to be a kinaesthetic learner, being one myself, he obviously has no idea how there brains work, because once you understand the practical, you understand the theory, thats what kinaesthetic learning is, yet as KASTAWAY says, rasengan is still not fully completed, he still needs a clone, and others can do it with more skill and accuracy.

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper">itachi gift is stronger tham amaterasu , basic logic. Itachi gave naruto power to bring sasuke back, and he hoped he would never hav to use it. Inorder for naruto to bring sasuke back he has to beat sasuke and to beats sasuke he haas to beat amaterasu, which sasuke has</div>

 

[twistedlink]

itachi gift is stronger tham amaterasu , basic logic. Itachi gave naruto power to bring sasuke back, and he hoped he would never hav to use it. Inorder for naruto to bring sasuke back he has to beat sasuke and to beats sasuke he haas to beat amaterasu, which sasuke has

why amaterasu??

why not anything else?

lol

I just love the way everyone agrees with neutrino when there is 0 evidence, and then everyone disagrees with me "because" and no logic.

haha, so funny

Cant wait to find out itachis power has nothing to do with amaterasu

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=527021" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-527021">twistedlink said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> why amaterasu??<br /> <br /> why not anything else?<br /> <br /> lol<br /> <br /> I just love the way everyone agrees with neutrino when there is 0 evidence, and then everyone disagrees with me &quot;because&quot; and no logic.<br /> <br /> haha, so funny<br /> <br /> Cant wait to find out itachis power has nothing to do with amaterasu </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>he was comparing amaterasu and itachi gift. One of them has to be stronger, and he said itachis power to naruto. I agree with him becuz itachi gave sasuke amaterasu and inorder to beat sasuke naruto has to go through amaterasu, so itachi's gift must be stronger. We were just comparing two things amaterasu and itachi's power to naruto. We didnt say amaterasu was related to itachis power to naruto. Its just a comparison btw 2 things</div>

 

[Naruto]

-_-'

Its called kinaesthetic learning, when i was a child i was going to be put into a special school, because i was having learning difficulties, then they realised i was a kinaesthetic learner, and once they started teaching me the way i learn, i actually became top student.

sounds exactly like naruto eh??

The thing is i didnt use hard work, i just dont understand most things by being told about them

IF however, i do something, and am then told about it, i understand both.

naruto only understands the practical, even after hes mastered the practical side he still doesnt appear to understand the theory as he progresses with jiraiya and kakashi, which is annoying, being a kinaesthetic learner myself exactly like naruto i know what its like, and i can tell you now if you understand the practical as a kinaesthetic learner, you then understand the theory, he has trouble though, its kind of a personal pet peeve of mine.

Buw w/e

Either way, my points all add up to "hes not overpowered"

and by the votes it seems majority agree with that, not that it proves im outright correct, definitely not, but it certainly means i have some basis towards my thinking

I see no more replies on my post. I understand that you are somewhat mad at me for contantly dis-agreeing with you, even though i agreed on many points.

I must compliment you for your analysis skills and determination.
Without knowing it, you have earned a place on this forum by hard work and determination.

Hard work => the posts you produce. Thinking alot, and evaluating what arguements you should use.

Determination => The way you kept replying on every reply on your posts.

Do you see what i mean?

Again, you have earned my respect. I rarely get this good feeling/sensation out of a simple debate.

 

[minato]

i want you to look at the capabilities of 8 tails, sasuke, itachi, minato, pain, kakashi, jairiya, and madara and seriously tell me naruto is too powerful...he may be improveing swiftly but he is a distance from too powerful

 

[SCaRFaCeD]

i want you to look at the capabilities of 8 tails, sasuke, itachi, minato, pain, kakashi, jairiya, and madara and seriously tell me naruto is too powerful...he may be improveing swiftly but he is a distance from too powerful

/Agree

Compared to all those you listed and basically each Akatsuki member, Naruto is not even in the same realm of power and therefore should not be considered OP.

Possibly if he masters his Kyuubi chakra, but that may not even happen since he doesn't like tapping into his evil power.

 

[Neutrino00]

No, genius literally means someone with a High IQ (meaning high cognitive abilities)

# someone who has exceptional intellectual ability and originality; "Mozart was a child genius"; "he's smart but he's no Einstein"
He could use rasengan after a month, that means he learns fast and thus he has high intelligance, which his ability to learn
# brilliance: unusual mental ability, aswell as making up original tricks.
# ace: someone who is dazzlingly skilled in any field
do you know how you get skilled in a field? with practice.
# exceptional creative ability
Naruto is very creative, he thought of using another hand, and using a shadow clone to help him with creating the rasengan
# flair: a natural talent; "he has a flair for mathematics"; "he has a genius for interior decorating"
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

I also love the way you said you can be a genius without being einstein, and princeton says the opposite.

naruto has the intelligance, he is not retarded, and he has hard work, therefor he in reality he soarse above everybody else on his own hard work, not using blood upgrades or curseseals.

also don't try the he doesn't understand the theory behind it crap, he described rasengan to jiriyah which i think has already been said, and he figured out(without ANYBODY telling him it) that to make the balloon pop he needed it to have it like spiralling in different directions at the same time, like how the cat made it pop.

Kakashi is way older than naruto, and has sharingan so he can like analyze things with it, take away his sharingan he wouldn't be able to copy techniques, (which is probably how he obtained rasengan) and also he is alot older than naruto so he has more experience than naruto. and naruto was able to sort of copy Sasuke's technique in the chuunin exam's and he didn't need to use sharingan at all.

we don't know how long it took jiriyah to figure out rasengan but it could have taken him alot longer than naruto, and he also learned it after being like really old with LOT's of experience and has practiced chakra controll over a long time(asuming the 4th created the jutsu when he was an adult and then taught his teacher the jutsu)

and Naruto who is a lot younger than Jiriyah can already obtain perfect controll over nature energy(sage chakra) which is very superior to Jiriyah's sage mode(although Jiriyah's base is stronger so his sage mode is also stronger)

but the point is is that not only is naruto an extremely hard worker meaning he can fly past everyone else, but he is also an intelligent genius who is not retarded which also let's him go past everyone else. the only reason Sasuke is stronger is because he has sharingan, blood upgrades, and used to have curse seal. I think that in the beggining(before sasuke used his sharingan and curse seal to get rigged) naruto's base was in reality way stronger than sasuke's base. remove the kyuubi and naruto would be even stronger. if sasuke never had curse seal effecting his body, his physical body wouldn't have been as strong or fast, and if it weren't for his sharingan his jutsu also wouldn't have been as strong.

 

[c1bj]

nah i dont think naruto has a lot of power jiraiya had more power he had the sage form as well but he was able to defeat only 1 body i think pein is the one with a lot of power

wrong, naruto has alot of power if you think about his age, its what balances out his simple mind

 

[Sage106]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=515229" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-515229">-shikamaru- said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> nah i dont think naruto has a lot of power jiraiya had more power he had the sage form as well but he was able to defeat only 1 body i think pein is the one with a lot of power </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>he has a lot of power just hasnt control iy yet. He has the kyuubi and infinite dource of chakra, i just feel its unnecessary for him learn senjustu. I want him to focus on controling the power he already has</div>

 

[NyCzFn]

until he actually uses all the abilities, he's not weak but definately not overpowered....YET

 

[KASTAWAY]

i MUST SAW THAT NARUTO IS THE MOST POWERFUL, HIS POWER IS POSSIBLY LIMITLESS

NARUTO IS JUST LEARNING HOW TO CONTROL THE POWER

SAGE TRAINING HAS TOUGH NARUTO HOW TO BE STILL AND HOW TO CONTROL HIS

EMOTIONS, FURTHER ENHANCING HIS CHAKRA CONTROL AS WELL (NOW HE WILL NOT

WASTE ENERGY).SAGE MODE ENHANCES HIS HEALING ABILITY, GIVING DEMON FOX CLOCK

NEW POSSIBILITIES. SAGE MODE OPENS THE DOOR TO NEW INTERACTIONS WITH THE

9TAILS. why LESS (STRESS) AND ALSO IT HELPS NARUTO PUSH HIS BODY FUTHER PAST

ITS NATURAL LIMITS , O YA HE ALSO HAS A FIGHTING STYLE TO IMPROVE THE ACCURACY

OF THE RASENGAN REMEMBER.

HE'S A KID MOST OF NARUTO'S ENEMY'S HAVE HAD DECADES

TO LEARN AND TRAIN , AND HAVE YEARS OF BATTLE EXPERIENCE

 

[Steinbiz]

i've looked at this thread a million times and never left a post.

hmmm, well. nobody really knows for sure what naruto is even capable of now that he has sage mode. we saw jiraiya in hermit mode. and we know that the speed and strength and endurance from the transformation is just.........phenomenal. and we can cleary see naruto using some kind of extremely powerful long-range jutsu when he trains alone. but besides shadow clones and different forms of rasengan. i think naruto will need a lot more than that to beat pein. he needs to learn some "sage jutsu". like jiraiya's "deep fryer" and "toad genjutsu". plus yondaime's flying thunder god wouldn't hurt! lol

 

[Neutrino00]

Sage shadow clones, Clone's that don't dissapear no matter how many times you try to hurt them(after all inorder to destroy a shadow clone you have to injure it, but with sage mode it would be like impossible to do that) and mass shadowclone jutsu would like own everysingle one of pain's bodies(except for the missile realm, that one is scaryO_O)

 

[twistedlink]

I see no more replies on my post. I understand that you are somewhat mad at me for contantly dis-agreeing with you, even though i agreed on many points.

I must compliment you for your analysis skills and determination.
Without knowing it, you have earned a place on this forum by hard work and determination.

Hard work => the posts you produce. Thinking alot, and evaluating what arguements you should use.

Determination => The way you kept replying on every reply on your posts.

Do you see what i mean?

Again, you have earned my respect. I rarely get this good feeling/sensation out of a simple debate.

I see exactly what you mean, but again, it just proves my point, here i am working hard and determined-and so is everyone else, unfortunately despite everyone working hard and being determined to outright prove there opinions in these massive posts in this massive thread, theres a winner, and a loser, meaning hard work isnt everything, and even hard work and determination can simply get you to the same goal as not that much work.

Im sure peoples opinions of me as a person has actually decreased for some members with my determination lol, however, like you, i have earned other peoples respect.

swings in round-a-bouts i suppose, cant please everyone.

 

[Nizar]

As most people has said before, true naruto has a vast amount of jutsu's but without the knowledge and the tactics and not to mention maturity, whats the use of them?

Sasuke got overpowered hugely, and tbh im glad naruto is becoming stronger because in the end:


Blondes are the best <3333333

 

[Naruto]

I see exactly what you mean, but again, it just proves my point, here i am working hard and determined-and so is everyone else, unfortunately despite everyone working hard and being determined to outright prove there opinions in these massive posts in this massive thread, theres a winner, and a loser, meaning hard work isnt everything, and even hard work and determination can simply get you to the same goal as not that much work.

Agreed to some extent. Even though there is a winner and a loser, the loser will have gained much more experience and knowledge. You don't need to win every time you work hard or when you are determined.

Look beyond that. Hard work and determination will get you somewhere, not make you win every battle.

 

[Leaf village]

no, look, he has to deal w/ madara, pein & sasuke eventualy. Take pein, he puts J-man to rest, ravages konoha and could take kakashi as a bonus, I mean J-man & kkshi are no push overs. deal it w/ an evenhand, equation is, sage mode + wind , water or fire element + 9tail (contorlled) x 2,000 of him = akasutski's & sasuke's demise.

lets take naruto the way he is, a no nonsence gut busting kick ass dude.

 

[9tailsSage]

no he has to get overpowered because i think the villain are over powered and have hax powers. i mean i bet nagato is even more powerful than pain puppets because he has all of the pain's abilities and because of the rinnegan he has control of all 6 elements i bet the 6th one is awesome and super powerful. and madara has warp speed faster than the speed of lite according to zetsu and has the EMS with all the MS abilities and probably some not shown he got because of the EMS and not to mention he is immortal. naruto has to catch up fast i need to see the FTG.

 

[BishamonSama]

There'll definitely be a point where it'll be impossible to make any Naruto character legitimatly more powerful. I mean, if they did that, that character would leave everyone in the dust.

But atm, I don't think Naruto's too powerful, but Kishi should be wary of overpowering his characters.