Myth Buster 8. Gate of Death

[Universal Enlightenment]

Well there's been alot of contradictions and myths in the manga and anime since the beginning and i was thinking maybe the 8 gates leading to death is also one.

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The Eight Gates.
The Gate of Opening (開門, Kaimon), located in the brain. This gate removes the restraints of the brain on the muscles so 100% of their strength can be used whereas normally, a person can only use 20% of their muscles' strength to keep them from disintegrating. Unlocking this gate allows the user to use the Front Lotus.
The Gate of Healing (休門, Kyūmon; English TV "The Gate of Rest"), located in the brain. Forcibly increases one's physical strength and temporarily re-energises the body.
The Gate of Life (生門, Seimon), located on the spinal cord. Allows the user to use the Reverse Lotus. The increased blood flow turns the skin red.
The Gate of Pain (傷門, Shōmon), located on the spinal cord. Increases the user's speed and power. May cause muscle tissue to tear on use.
The Gate of Limit (杜門, Tomon; English TV "The Gate of Closing"), located in the abdomen. Increases the user's speed and power.
The Gate of View (景門, Keimon; English TV "The Gate of Joy"), located in the stomach. Increases the user's speed and power. Allows the user to perform the Morning Peacock. Opening of this gate releases such enormous amounts of chakra that it can cause nearby water bodies to form a vortex around the user.
The Gate of Wonder (驚門, Kyōmon; English TV "The Gate of Shock"), located below the stomach. Further increases the user's speed and power. Allows the user to perform the Daytime Tiger. Those who open this gate will pour glowing green sweat from every inch of their body, which immediately evaporates from their own heat energy, creating an aura which people would mistake as a green chakra coating. Unfortunately, the side effects of opening the gate are that the user's muscle fibres are ripped to shreds, causing intense pain if anything or anyone touches them.
The Gate of Death (死門, Shimon), located at the heart. Releasing this gate uses up all of the body's energy. It makes the heart pump at maximum power and exceeds the power of every other gate. Opening this gate assures the user's death shortly after.

In anime One person was able to use all 8 gates and not die, his name is Shinnō because of his medical ninjutsu he was able to heal himself to the effects. Knowing that now that has me wondering can a regular ninja use all 8 Gates and not die.

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Despite having little care for human life, Shinnō demonstrated remarkable medical knowledge and prowess without the aid of chakra. With only basic medical tools, he performed flawless surgeries to save people from near death. In addition to the human body, Shinnō also demonstrated great knowledge of the human mind. He had repeatedly shown himself able to understand how people think and exploit it to suit his needs. He used this ability against Amaru, saying that people never suspect the one that saves their life. With this advantage, he is a very skilled manipulator, acting as a kind-hearted doctor for 15 years, while discreetly harvesting a large amount of Dark Chakra from the villagers' hatred with the Zero-Tails. He pretended to sacrifice himself for Amaru in order for her to succumb to the beast's control and release the Dark Chakra for him.
In terms of ninjutsu prowess, Shinnō's skills focused more on his knowledge of chakra and human physiology. He could easily injure a person to the point of appearing dead, using a technique to resurrect the person, even if it was himself. He also knew many Reincarnation Ninjutsu, which he taught to Orochimaru, and a reason why Orochimaru wanted Sasuke to bring Shinnō back to Otogakure, believing that the doctor may help extend Orochimaru's host's vitality.

With his knowledge of Dark Chakra, Shinnō was shown as able to unleash a powerful transformation to take a human being well beyond the normal limitations. By combining his signature Body Revival Technique, which grants tremendous self-healing might, with the Dark Chakra, Shinnō was able to transform into a superhuman body that can freely access his chakra without hand seals or any apparent effort of chakra build-up. This grants him great raw physical strength, demonstrated when he brutalised Naruto with punches that sent him flying all over the room and shattering the rock structures from impact, as well as incredible speed that make it look as though he teleported to Naruto's backside. This form manipulates the understandings of "Destruction and Rebirth" of muscles that makes it stronger to increase the body's strength. He was even able to unleash Dark Chakra in forms of powerful widespread or condensed shock waves or bolts for tremendous internal damage and claimed to be able to freely access all Eight Gates without any drawbacks as long as he still had access to enough Dark Chakra. Upon being injured by Sasuke, Shinnō merged with the Zero-Tails to gain its powers and Dark Chakra, as well as manipulating the flying fortress Ancor Vantian. Thanks to Sasuke's efforts, the Dark Chakra began to cause Shinnō to wither away both mentally and physically, explaining Shinnō's increasing instability as he neared his end.

Anime Character Guren was also able to open up the 8th Gate or something real similar , She spoke of Tenketsu grabbed her heart and stated life or death. If anyone knows what Tenketsu is that's your chakra points in your chakra network ,the 8th gate is located at the heart the gate of death and she calls her technique life or death think about it.

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Take a look at there eyes there all plain white after using that technique so that makes me believe she did open a gate . After opening it look how the water repels away from the body in a similar form.

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Guren was able to survive after opening up the 8th gate probably because it was a watered down version or bootleg of it, Another reason can be because maybe she skipped the other 7 so her body wasn't crippled or taken damaged like it was suppose to. So what do you guys think If Might Gai went 8 Gate Mode would he Die ???

 

[Diottcas]

Well Kishi wouldn't of made it if it wasn't gonna be used properly

 

[kaka96]

Well there's been alot of contradictions and myths in the manga and anime since the beginning and i was thinking maybe the 8 gates leading to death is also one.

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The Eight Gates.
The Gate of Opening (開門, Kaimon), located in the brain. This gate removes the restraints of the brain on the muscles so 100% of their strength can be used whereas normally, a person can only use 20% of their muscles' strength to keep them from disintegrating. Unlocking this gate allows the user to use the Front Lotus.
The Gate of Healing (休門, Kyūmon; English TV "The Gate of Rest"), located in the brain. Forcibly increases one's physical strength and temporarily re-energises the body.
The Gate of Life (生門, Seimon), located on the spinal cord. Allows the user to use the Reverse Lotus. The increased blood flow turns the skin red.
The Gate of Pain (傷門, Shōmon), located on the spinal cord. Increases the user's speed and power. May cause muscle tissue to tear on use.
The Gate of Limit (杜門, Tomon; English TV "The Gate of Closing"), located in the abdomen. Increases the user's speed and power.
The Gate of View (景門, Keimon; English TV "The Gate of Joy"), located in the stomach. Increases the user's speed and power. Allows the user to perform the Morning Peacock. Opening of this gate releases such enormous amounts of chakra that it can cause nearby water bodies to form a vortex around the user.
The Gate of Wonder (驚門, Kyōmon; English TV "The Gate of Shock"), located below the stomach. Further increases the user's speed and power. Allows the user to perform the Daytime Tiger. Those who open this gate will pour glowing green sweat from every inch of their body, which immediately evaporates from their own heat energy, creating an aura which people would mistake as a green chakra coating. Unfortunately, the side effects of opening the gate are that the user's muscle fibres are ripped to shreds, causing intense pain if anything or anyone touches them.
The Gate of Death (死門, Shimon), located at the heart. Releasing this gate uses up all of the body's energy. It makes the heart pump at maximum power and exceeds the power of every other gate. Opening this gate assures the user's death shortly after.

In anime One person was able to use all 8 gates and not die, his name is Shinnō because of his medical ninjutsu he was able to heal himself to the effects. Knowing that now that has me wondering can a regular ninja use all 8 Gates and not die.

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Despite having little care for human life, Shinnō demonstrated remarkable medical knowledge and prowess without the aid of chakra. With only basic medical tools, he performed flawless surgeries to save people from near death. In addition to the human body, Shinnō also demonstrated great knowledge of the human mind. He had repeatedly shown himself able to understand how people think and exploit it to suit his needs. He used this ability against Amaru, saying that people never suspect the one that saves their life. With this advantage, he is a very skilled manipulator, acting as a kind-hearted doctor for 15 years, while discreetly harvesting a large amount of Dark Chakra from the villagers' hatred with the Zero-Tails. He pretended to sacrifice himself for Amaru in order for her to succumb to the beast's control and release the Dark Chakra for him.
In terms of ninjutsu prowess, Shinnō's skills focused more on his knowledge of chakra and human physiology. He could easily injure a person to the point of appearing dead, using a technique to resurrect the person, even if it was himself. He also knew many Reincarnation Ninjutsu, which he taught to Orochimaru, and a reason why Orochimaru wanted Sasuke to bring Shinnō back to Otogakure, believing that the doctor may help extend Orochimaru's host's vitality.

With his knowledge of Dark Chakra, Shinnō was shown as able to unleash a powerful transformation to take a human being well beyond the normal limitations. By combining his signature Body Revival Technique, which grants tremendous self-healing might, with the Dark Chakra, Shinnō was able to transform into a superhuman body that can freely access his chakra without hand seals or any apparent effort of chakra build-up. This grants him great raw physical strength, demonstrated when he brutalised Naruto with punches that sent him flying all over the room and shattering the rock structures from impact, as well as incredible speed that make it look as though he teleported to Naruto's backside. This form manipulates the understandings of "Destruction and Rebirth" of muscles that makes it stronger to increase the body's strength. He was even able to unleash Dark Chakra in forms of powerful widespread or condensed shock waves or bolts for tremendous internal damage and claimed to be able to freely access all Eight Gates without any drawbacks as long as he still had access to enough Dark Chakra. Upon being injured by Sasuke, Shinnō merged with the Zero-Tails to gain its powers and Dark Chakra, as well as manipulating the flying fortress Ancor Vantian. Thanks to Sasuke's efforts, the Dark Chakra began to cause Shinnō to wither away both mentally and physically, explaining Shinnō's increasing instability as he neared his end.

Anime Character Guren was also able to open up the 8th Gate or something real similar , She spoke of Tenketsu grabbed her heart and stated life or death. If anyone knows what Tenketsu is that's your chakra points in your chakra network ,the 8th gate is located at the heart the gate of death and she calls her technique life or death think about it.

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Take a look at there eyes there all plain white after using that technique so that makes me believe she did open a gate . After opening it look how the water repels away from the body in a similar form.

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Guren was able to survive after opening up the 8th gate probably because it was a watered down version or bootleg of it, Another reason can be because maybe she skipped the other 7 so her body wasn't crippled or taken damaged like it was suppose to. So what do you guys think If Might Gai went 8 Gate Mode would he Die ???

Anime = non-canon= never happened = not valid proof

Gates and Tenkentsu aren't the same. Guren was able to destroy a part of her life force to gain additional chakra, it had nothing to do with the gates

Look at how the gates leave Guy, touching him is like placing him under an elephant. 8th gate would obviously be fatal

 

[GRANDcash]

*didn't read a single word*
Yea ikr.. thats what i was gonna say..

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

After the eighth gate is opened death is all but insured.

Not because of the damage to the body, which while extensive is not the cause of death for a gates user.

Do you want to know why? It is because when the 8th gate is open, the user is accessing 100% of their chakra at once, instead of the normal 20% that a ninja is able to access at any one time.


Thus the user would probably die of chakra exhaustion before their body would be damaged enough to kill them, unless they only stayed in the 8th gate for like 30 seconds.

 

[Oronagato]

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[Universal Enlightenment]

Anime = non-canon= never happened = not valid proof

Gates and Tenkentsu aren't the same. Guren was able to destroy a part of her life force to gain additional chakra, it had nothing to do with the gates

Look at how the gates leave Guy, touching him is like placing him under an elephant. 8th gate would obviously be fatal

Where did I Ever state they were the samething ???

If anime doesn't count then why was Gari & Pakura introduced in a Filler/Movie killed in a Filler/Movie and returned in the manga???

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Why was the double fang sword introduce in anime filler naruto ep 152 and brought back on chapter 523 ???

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Why was Storm element introduce by Hiruko in the Shippuden movie 3 then in the manga by Darui manga 464

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There's signs of Kishimoto of not having enough space for putting information in the manga so he does it in the anime sometimes and these prove it

After the eighth gate is opened death is all but insured.

Not because of the damage to the body, which while extensive is not the cause of death for a gates user.

Do you want to know why? It is because when the 8th gate is open, the user is accessing 100% of their chakra at once, instead of the normal 20% that a ninja is able to access at any one time.


Thus the user would probably die of chakra exhaustion before their body would be damaged enough to kill them, unless they only stayed in the 8th gate for like 30 seconds.

OOOOOOOO that makes I got you

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Thanks

 

[kaka96]

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Where did I Ever state they were the samething ???

If anime doesn't count then why was Gari & Pakura introduced in a Filler/Movie killed in a Filler/Movie and returned in the manga???

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Why was the double fang sword introduce in anime filler naruto ep 152 and brought back on chapter 523 ???

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Why was Storm element introduce by Hiruko in the Shippuden movie 3 then in the manga by Darui manga 464

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There's signs of Kishimoto of not having enough space for putting information in the manga so he does it in the anime sometimes and these prove it






OOOOOOOO that makes I got you


Thanks

Because some of those fact happened in the anime or movies came back in the manga doesn't mean that this one will happen in the manga

The examples that you gave defy in no way the flow of the manga either , while surviving the gates would. Guy would basically be the strongest of all current shinobi :|

 

[Kakashi Fang]

After the eighth gate is opened death is all but insured.

Not because of the damage to the body, which while extensive is not the cause of death for a gates user.

Do you want to know why? It is because when the 8th gate is open, the user is accessing 100% of their chakra at once, instead of the normal 20% that a ninja is able to access at any one time.


Thus the user would probably die of chakra exhaustion before their body would be damaged enough to kill them, unless they only stayed in the 8th gate for like 30 seconds.

A bit of this is wrong, you may have misread wiki lol.

The first gate Gate of Opening Removes the restraint of the brain on the muscles so the user can use 100% of their strength, whereas they usually only use 20% to keep their muscles from disintegrating.

So its "STRENGTH" not "CHAKRA"
Get it right lol.

 

[kaka96]

A bit of this is wrong, you may have misread wiki lol.

The first gate Gate of Opening Removes the restraint of the brain on the muscles so the user can use 100% of their strength, whereas they usually only use 20% to keep their muscles from disintegrating.

So its "STRENGTH" not "CHAKRA"
Get it right lol.

Doesn't change a thing :|
Last gate still uses all 100% of your life force,stamina and chakra

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

A bit of this is wrong, you may have misread wiki lol.

The first gate Gate of Opening Removes the restraint of the brain on the muscles so the user can use 100% of their strength, whereas they usually only use 20% to keep their muscles from disintegrating.

So its "STRENGTH" not "CHAKRA"
Get it right lol.

Actually you are dead wrong, and I thank you for trying to prove me wrong.

Go read the databooks. Do you even know how the gates work? There are 8 gates in the chakra pathway that inhibit the overall flow of chakra.

Opening each gate increases the chakra levels you can access by 10% until you get to 100% chakra.

So thank you very much sir.

P.S. I dislike it when people call me out when I am right. Please verify the facts before you call someone out. The Naruto wiki can be edited by anyone, the manga and databook cannot.

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There you go.

 

[kaka96]

Actually you are dead wrong, and I thank you for trying to prove me wrong.

Go read the databooks. Do you even know how the gates work? There are 8 gates in the chakra pathway that inhibit the overall flow of chakra.

Opening each gate increases the chakra levels you can access by 10% until you get to 100% chakra.

So thank you very much sir.

P.S. I dislike it when people call me out when I am right. Please verify the facts before you call someone out. The Naruto wiki can be edited by anyone, the manga and databook cannot.

Take me as your student wease: xD

 

[Wind..]

Most likely i think Gai would die

 

[TKDdude04]

Really nice, thought out post. I'm sure we'll see the 8th gate soon so we will know the answer to that. Hell. Who knows? I could see the reason that the 8th Gate kills you is because of dramatic chakra being used on the body and that breaking the body down. Maybe Gai will start to die by it and Kakashi will somehow blow it away with Kamui. Only time will tell on this one.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

Take me as your student wease: xD

Sure thing!

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Really nice, thought out post. I'm sure we'll see the 8th gate soon so we will know the answer to that. Hell. Who knows? I could see the reason that the 8th Gate kills you is because of dramatic chakra being used on the body and that breaking the body down. Maybe Gai will start to die by it and Kakashi will somehow blow it away with Kamui. Only time will tell on this one.

ROFL with the kamui part

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[kaka96]

Really nice, thought out post. I'm sure we'll see the 8th gate soon so we will know the answer to that. Hell. Who knows? I could see the reason that the 8th Gate kills you is because of dramatic chakra being used on the body and that breaking the body down. Maybe Gai will start to die by it and Kakashi will somehow blow it away with Kamui. Only time will tell on this one.

If he kamui's his chakra... he's basically killing him :|

Sure thing!

:T_T:xd

 

[Universal Enlightenment]

Because some of those fact happened in the anime or movies came back in the manga doesn't mean that this one will happen in the manga

The examples that you gave defy in no way the flow of the manga either , while surviving the gates would. Guy would basically be the strongest of all current shinobi :|

Well how many times has the manga contradicted what it said??? Example
Tsnuade didn't want naruto using the kyuubi chakra because it was harming his body but lately he's been hooping around with the chakra and is he being harmed??? Sword of Kusanagi it was said it was able to cut threw anything but couldn't cut enma or kurama??? Amaterasu is undodge-able but Raikage was running all around it??? The 3rd Hokage the was knew all the jutsu of the hidden leaf don't get me started on this one lmao ??? This is something i gotta see to believe

 

[kaka96]

Well how many times has the manga contradicted what it said??? Example
Tsnuade didn't want naruto using the kyuubi chakra because it was harming his body but lately he's been hooping around with the chakra and is he being harmed??? Sword of Kusanagi it was said it was able to cut threw anything but couldn't cut enma or kurama??? Amaterasu is undodge-able but Raikage was running all around it??? The 3rd Hokage the was knew all the jutsu of the hidden leaf don't get me started on this one lmao ??? This is something i gotta see to believe

Chakra : In kyubi cloak, he was being taken over/ In Kyubi mode he took that chakra as his

Sword of Kusanagi : Hype

Hokage: Hype

Amaterasu : Hype

 

[Manzai]

Actually you are dead wrong, and I thank you for trying to prove me wrong.

Go read the databooks. Do you even know how the gates work? There are 8 gates in the chakra pathway that inhibit the overall flow of chakra.

Opening each gate increases the chakra levels you can access by 10% until you get to 100% chakra.

So thank you very much sir.

P.S. I dislike it when people call me out when I am right. Please verify the facts before you call someone out. The Naruto wiki can be edited by anyone, the manga and databook cannot.

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There you go.

dang. like a boss right there. was gonna say the same thing about you taking me under your wing. lol xd