Kakashi VS Sasuke (without sharingan)

[kaka96]

I don't think Sasuke needs Sharingan to perform some of his Chidori variations.

Sasuke doesn't need to worry about the opponent dodging the Chidori Stream if they're close to him, so that will hit Kakashi.

Base Sasuke and Base Kakashi's Taikutsu are equal. They've fought after Sasuke and Danzou's fight.

Also, who said Sasuke needs Sharingan to use Chidori?

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His vision was blurred then, plus, if Sasuke can do it without Sharingan then Kakashi can. Plus, if you think him using it without Sharingan is only a bluff, see below.

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He was readying his Chidori in order to attack Kakashi but then Naruto stepped in. We all know Sasuke's not dumb enough to let Kakashi evade Chidori, therefore I don't htink he took that risk. I believe he somehow trained his eye to be able to use Sharingan. Of course, if he can do it, Kakashi can too.

In terms of other ninjutsus, I think they would be equal in these as well. Even if Kakashi does supposedly have 1000 jutsus I don't think any of them would be that effective. Plus, if he did have 1000 jutsus he would've shown us at least a hundred of them already. I think they're Taijutsu and Ninjutsu is a stalemate in this fight.

So that's Ninjutsu and Taijutsu out of the way.

I don't think either of them can cast Genjutsu without Sharingan, so my answer is draw.

I will not argue with the rest but yeah Kakashi can do gen without sharingan, it's a weak one though

 

[TKDdude04]

Kakashi for sure. He can use water against Sasuke's Fire, and lightning against lightning will go no where. Plus Kakashi knows so many more jutsu.

 

[Ambriel]

even Guy said that Lee surpassed Neji :|
Neji never fought gated Lee

"The hidden lotus, a combination of such blinding speed that nobody can defend himself against it, not even Neji"

were manga pics a I never seen him say that. An neji always use to beat lee when they train.

 

[kaka96]

were manga pics a I never seen him say that. An neji always use to beat lee when they train.

I cannot find the one where he said these exacts word but here's NB version

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[Ambriel]

I cannot find the one where he said these exacts word but here's NB version

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All he said was the answer to beatin neji is high speed combat

 

[kaka96]

All he said was the answer to beatin neji is high speed combat

yupp, the very one he's using atm thus Lee 5gates > neji
Can someone other than you seriously question that?

 

[Ambriel]

yupp, the very one he's using atm thus Lee 5gates > neji
Can someone other than you seriously question that?

I made a thread before, how neji would own lee go look it up if u want the explanation.

 

[soulreaper11]

sasuke as surpass kakashi in every way genjustus,ninjustu and taijustus. taijustus maybe even but all sasuke need was experence and he got that so sasuke> kakashi he even beat his ass after the fight with donzo in which kakashi used his sharigan first.

 

[JirayiaRIPforever]

How can taijutsu make u fast, it doest sasuke got fast thru trainin.

WOW, i mean really, Kakashi would demolish sasuke if no one had sharingan

 

[Ambriel]

WOW, i mean really, Kakashi would demolish sasuke if no one had sharingan

Sasuke would own kakashi

 

[itachi49]

without sharingan kakashi has a better genjutsu whereas sasuke don't have any genjutsu skill without sharingan.

kakashi has a better ninjutsu ...

kakashi (without gate ) is at least as fast as sasuke

kakashi has a better intelligence than sasuke

kakashi has more experience than sasuke


kakashi with low difficulty

 

[Styles]

but on the show sasuke beat kakashi in hand to hand combat until naruto came

 

[Styles]

so sasuke is stronger now

 

[OWanime]

yeah kakashi wins this with major difficulty xd

 

[unCasa]

Kakashi wins!! He was jounin level before Obito's eye

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Kakashi wins!! He was jounin level before Obito's eye

Sasuke is Kage level, he fought the kages...And managed not to die.

How can you guys be thinking Kakashi is stronger than Sasuke? Sasuke held his own against Kakashi when he had deteriorated vision. They're equal in combat. Sasuke has more powerful ninjutsus and I don't think either of them can actually perform genjutsus without Sharingan, and even if they can it's probably not a life threatening one. I think Sasuke can manage a small illusion though.


Also, in the databook, they have the same speed of 4.5, they have equal base speed.

It's true that Kakashi has more experience but we've hardly seen Sasuke fight lately, apart from the Kage summit, if we wait for the 4th databook input then we can analyze this more clearly.

 

[Narubro]

sasuke is jounin level without sharingan, kakashi is kage level

 

[kaka96]

Sasuke is Kage level, he fought the kages...And managed not to die.

How can you guys be thinking Kakashi is stronger than Sasuke? Sasuke held his own against Kakashi when he had deteriorated vision. They're equal in combat. Sasuke has more powerful ninjutsus and I don't think either of them can actually perform genjutsus without Sharingan, and even if they can it's probably not a life threatening one. I think Sasuke can manage a small illusion though.


Also, in the databook, they have the same speed of 4.5, they have equal base speed.

It's true that Kakashi has more experience but we've hardly seen Sasuke fight lately, apart from the Kage summit, if we wait for the 4th databook input then we can analyze this more clearly.

Kakashi CAN use genjutsu without sharingan, he did in the first bell test on Sakure >.>

 

[blackbird31468]

i would say kakashi because he seems to be better than sasuke at everything except chakra and nature manipulation and without susano, chidori and amaterasu, sasuke doesn't have much to compete against kakashi with.

 

[King Of Pop]

sasuke takes this his lightning jutsus is stronger than kakashis plus his fire which wuld come in handy using he can create the conditions for kirin so i go 4 sasuke