Kakashi VS Sasuke (without sharingan)

[kaka96]

he will just use his fire jutsu he used in his fight with itachi alot of times to create the heat he needs. an he can use the move again if he wants to kno dat.

:| meanwhile Kakashi just stand by, wait, reading Icha Icha Tactics :|
Kirin takes time to be ready, Kakashi can easily kill him off with speed before that

lol kakashi an sasuke r probly the same fast wat u talkin bout this is sasuke here not naruto.

Kakashi at the age of 13 had naturally the speed required for Chidori as stated by Minato

Sasuke at the age of 13 had to use sharingan to copy Lee's taijutsu in order to train with it and gain that speed you are talking of.

Since this thread is about them without sharingan, he loses it :|

 

[Gingka Uzumaki]

Is this even a contest?

We haven't even seen a battle where Sasuke didn't use Sharingan.

He will get punked on Chidori, and Kakashi could probably even break out Rasengan if he wanted to.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

:| meanwhile Kakashi just stand by, wait, reading Icha Icha Tactics :|
Kirin takes time to be ready, Kakashi can easily kill him off with speed before that



Kakashi at the age of 13 had naturally the speed required for Chidori as stated by Minato

Sasuke at the age of 13 had to use sharingan to copy Lee's taijutsu in order to train with it and gain that speed you are talking of.

Since this thread is about them without sharingan, he loses it :|

wat stfu sasuke already has it so he cant lose it so like i said him an kakashi is most likely the same fast.

 

[kaka96]

wat stfu sasuke already has it so he cant lose it so like i said him an kakashi is most likely the same fast.

We have to calculate how they would have progressed without it, therefore, he looses it.

The only comparison of their powers without Sharingan is when they were 13 and everyone would agree that 13 Y.O. Kakashi destroys 12-13 Y.O Sasuke

At 13, Kakashi was already a Jonin with enough speed to use Chidori AND he created it :|

At 13, Sasuke was a new Genin with not enough speed for Chidori(thus his special training) and had not created anything ...

If you are a fanboy up to the point you can't even admit that, just leave...

 

[kotoamatsukami]

We have to calculate how they would have progressed without it, therefore, he looses it.

The only comparison of their powers without Sharingan is when they were 13 and everyone would agree that 13 Y.O. Kakashi destroys 12-13 Y.O Sasuke

At 13, Kakashi was already a Jonin with enough speed to use Chidori AND he created it :|

At 13, Sasuke was a new Genin with not enough speed for Chidori(thus his special training) and had not created anything ...

If you are a fanboy up to the point you can't even admit that, just leave...

ikno kakashi was stronger at 13 but the guy who made it said both dont have sharingan never said anything about sasuke loseing speed now did he cuz if he did then this whole thread would hav been pointless so wtf r u talking bout.

 

[kaka96]

ikno kakashi was stronger at 13 but the guy who made it said both dont have sharingan never said anything about sasuke loseing speed now did he cuz if he did then this whole thread would hav been pointless so wtf r u talking bout.

He never said he'd loose his speed but if he never had the sharingan, he never would have had that speed
We will have to wait for Mante to know if we are comparing if we remove the sharingan now or if we remove i from their life

 

[Ambriel]

Sasuke will burn him

 

[kaka96]

Sasuke will burn him

wow ... how will he do that :|?

 

[Necron]

Without sharingan, Kakashi is way stronger...

 

[Ambriel]

wow ... how will he do that :|?

Fire ball jutsu

 

[kaka96]

Fire ball jutsu

wth... like Kakashi couldn't counter or evade that

 

[-Vegeta-]

Kakashi
He had the speed needed for Chidori naturally while Sasuke had to use sharingan to get it

Kakashi needed sharingan for it as well.

 

[Ambriel]

wth... like Kakashi couldn't counter or evade that

Ok wat other attacks does kakashi have other than chidori

 

[kaka96]

Kakashi needed sharingan for it as well.

For using well yes, but he had he speed itself, Sasuke used Sharingan to earn that speed

Ok wat other attacks does kakashi have other than chidori

Summoning jutsu, 8 ninja hounds

He didn't his sharingan to use head hunter jutsu in part 1, wich he used to evade Itachi's Fireball jutstu :| its hard to say what he copied and what he didn't but I doubt he became a Jonin with an arsenal of 0 techniques

 

[Ambriel]

For using well yes, but he had he speed itself, Sasuke used Sharingan to earn that speed

What chapter does it say sasuke sharingan made him earn that speed.

 

[kaka96]

What chapter does it say sasuke sharingan made him earn that speed.

give me a min
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If that's not enough, I'm afraid you're an idiot

 

[-Vegeta-]

For using well yes, but he had he speed itself, Sasuke used Sharingan to earn that speed

You can't copy speed. Kakashi trained Sasuke to get to the level of speed needed for chidori.

 

[kaka96]

You can't copy speed. Kakashi trained Sasuke to get to the level of speed needed for chidori.

I didn't say he copied the speed, i said he used sharingan to earn, as showed in the Post above yours

 

[-Vegeta-]

I didn't say he copied the speed, i said he used sharingan to earn, as showed in the Post above yours

He simply copied Lee's style hence Kakashi saying he had Sasuke use Lee's style and that's also why you see the mirror images of both Lee and Sasuke fighting with the same style, but the speed he got he trained to get. I do agree that sharingan helped though.

 

[Ambriel]

give me a min
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If that's not enough, I'm afraid you're an idiot

It says he copy lee taijutsu, which is lee strong fist, an kakashi helpd sasuke raised his speed it didt say he copied lee speed.