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What is it with people and overestimating susanoo.
If it was so strong then why did Madara who had EMS and Kurama on his side still lose to Hashirama? Please explain it to me.
 

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Kisi needs to show that fight or something cause it doesn't make sense to me I always thought that Senju and Uchiha was suppose to be equal.
Why was Hashirama so damn OP.
 

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So it's overrated because Madara lost to Hashirama? By that logic you're calling Hashirama weak. Also did you forget that Hashirama gained control of Kurama during their fight?
 

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Cuz Madara didnt fought to win this 1 fight, cuz he fought for the future win and the peace in world
 

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i don't know why they do that but hashirama was a once in a life time bad ass for real like minato never lost a fight to any opponent and the guy had wood release which he coud have strangle madara to death and tied up kyubi and sit and laugh them and also madara feared him so even with susano that has weaknesses 1st to maintain ther for a litttle time due to chakra and can't be a gud thing agains't an earth style user who can bury them death like hashirama, nagato, jiraira, yamato, kakashi, and the third not to mentioned a tbb or a speedy guy so yea susano isn't invincible.
 

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So it's overrated because Madara lost to Hashirama? By that logic you're calling Hashirama weak. Also did you forget that Hashirama gained control of Kurama during their fight?

No. Thats not what I meant its just in alot of versus threads people would just say that Itachi or Sasuke wins because of susanoo with little to no explanation.
As if it makes them invincible or something. Or was Hashirama just that freakin strong.
 
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No thats not what I meant its just in alot of versus threads people would just say that Itachi or Sasuke wins because of susanoo with little to no explanation.
As if it makes them invincible or something. Or was Hashirama just that freakin strong.

I just told you that Hashirama also had Kurama on his side, you know the strongest bijuu. Susanoo has tremendous defensive abilities and this is proven by the Raikage A needing Oonoki to lighten him to increase his speed and then make his punch extremely heavy just to break through an incomplete susanoo.

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Hashirama was fighting to kill Madara was fighting to take his DNA, it's like Pain vs Naruto, If pain wanted to kill Naruto he would have easily done it but he was trying to capture him and the fight was Hashirama and Mito vs Madara and the deamon fox, when Hashirama took control of the fox, Mito sealed the fox in her during the fight to help hashirama. So it was Hashirama + Kyuubi +Mito vs Madara(who wasnt trying to kill).
 

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I guess I understand but what do you think the limits of susanoo are thats really why i made the thread using the the First probly wasn't the best example thou.
 

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I guess I understand but what do you think the limits of susanoo are thats really why i made the thread using the the First probly wasn't the best example thou.

I don't really know lol. We're just going to have to wait for Kishi to show it sometime down the road.
 

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Hashirama was fighting to kill Madara was fighting to take his DNA, it's like Pain vs Naruto, If pain wanted to kill Naruto he would have easily done it but he was trying to capture him and the fight was Hashirama and Mito vs Madara and the deamon fox, when Hashirama took control of the fox, Mito sealed the fox in her during the fight to help hashirama. So it was Hashirama + Kyuubi +Mito vs Madara(who wasnt trying to kill).
Good Theory. In Addition, Don't Forget That Hashirama Was Famous Among The Ninja World For His Exclusive Ability Of Controlling Tailed Beasts (Perhaps One Of The Advantages Of Being A Descendant Of The S06P's Son Who Inherited The Sage's Will And Physical Energy), Which Most Likely Made Taking Control Of The Nine-Tails Easier (That's Just My Opinion Though).
 

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I gotta know because why make it Senju=Uchiha then show all those crazy sharingan techs, and don't really show the Senju abilities.

You'd have to ask Kishi that.
 

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I guess I understand but what do you think the limits of susanoo are thats really why i made the thread using the the First probly wasn't the best example thou.
In Terms Of Susano'o's Limitations

- The Massive Amount Of Chakra Required To Maintain Its Form
- The Fact That It Also Draws Its Energy From The Users' Life Force
- It Usually Keeps Its User Rooted To The Ground
- It's Not Impervious To Damage Or Attacks From Underground
(I.e. Bones Can Be Broken With Enough Force or Stripping Through Its Skin With A Powerful Wind Release Technique)
 

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We don't know what actually happened madara & hashirama both used weapons & kyubi that's all we seen

Hash moukton may have restricted susanoo and he was the STRONGEST PERSON PERIOD until madara got ems
 

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We don't know what actually happened madara & hashirama both used weapons & kyubi that's all we seen

Hash moukton may have restricted susanoo and he was the STRONGEST PERSON PERIOD until madara got ems

He already EMS you mean Hashirama was the strongest till madara got Rinnegan.
 

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But hashirama overcoming susanoo shouldn't take away from it being one of the best jutsu period
 
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