Vivi Will Eventually Join the StrawHats
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NarutoVsGoku
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lol congradulations on being that guy. the guy who cant handle a debate. you didnt answer my original quesitons and when you cant come up with any more arguements to back up your claim you beg the question lol..
awesome.
so why wont she join? based on what in the manga? support your arguement. and answer my questions...
the chances of vivi breaking her promise of joing the sh the next time they meet?
chances of sh denying her to join?
if jinbe is expected to join because of his promise why not vivi?
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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She won't join. She joins and her whole country is murdered when the WG finds out that the princess of Alabasta is part of the SH crew. This is what probably will happen now that Akainu is fleet admiral. Absolute justice.
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EternalMangekyouRinnegan
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Don't answer this to thread. The author is trolling once again.
You won't hear any different argument from him other than "Vivi promised to join".
You won't hear any different argument from him other than "Vivi promised to join".
lubricati0n
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Bro, I think you read into the words of Vivi too much. All she said was "if" they ever met again. It's true that there is a possibility they could meet again but what makes you think she would travel to the New World? I mean the SH crew wouldn't go back to Alabasta just to pick her up. Not to mention the king of Alabasta is sick and old. We don't even know if she got married in the time skip, she could very well be the Queen atm.
Next Luffy only wants 10 people in his crew, including Jinbei he has 9 I believe in which all the current members fill some sort of role(Not counting Luffy himself). What role do you think Vivi would fill?
Btw Vivi never promises them anything.
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EternalMangekyouRinnegan
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It wasn't a promise. You should learn to read before entering a debate. She asked if they would consider her as a friend when they meet again. How is that a promise? :flaw:
Luffy won't decline if she does ask to join the crew.
You could say that Jinbe didn't decline, he postponed the offer. With him it's clear. He had to finish his bussiness with Big Mam and Sun pirates. He can't join a new crew while being an active captain of another. With Vivi it's unclear. She could meet up with Straw Hats after a year (chapter wise) or never.
While I am at it, here's my last post :
Enough proof for yourself? Yes, but not for others. You were trying to convince us, not yourself. Why make this thread and argue with people if you can't come up with any decent arguments?
No, it's not the same thing and I already explained it. Should I dumb it down to kindergarden level so you could understand?
It wasn't this specific. She asked whether they would take her in as a friend if they ever meet again. She asked that to reassure herself if they are still friends despite her refusal to join. Basicly she asked "Will we still be friends after this?".
But, hey, keep milking your pathetic excuse, it's the only thing you still got in this debate.
It's cool that you think so but it's far from reasonable and logical, I wouldn't bother to argue if it was.
The only place they could meet up is Majories during the Reverie. It's not a secret that it will be heavily guarded since all of the worlds monarchs will be gathering there. It will be miracle if Straw Hats actually make it to there but if they do make it and meet up with Vivi, yes, Luffy will let her in IF she asks to join. Simply, because he would never brake a promise to her.
Tho, Oda won't make it happen. She might be a temporaly nakama during this Reverie arc (like she was during the Baroque Works arc) and she will always be their ally but she will never be a pemanent nakama.
And a very good one
+ 1 million reputation :noc: .I have already said this several times ,we both should have born under the same star cause we always end of thinking alike ,atleast in one piece .It wasn't a promise. You should learn to read before entering a debate. She asked if they would consider her as a friend when they meet again. How is that a promise? :flaw:
Luffy won't decline if she does ask to join the crew.
You could say that Jinbe didn't decline, he postponed the offer. With him it's clear. He had to finish his bussiness with Big Mam and Sun pirates. He can't join a new crew while being an active captain of another. With Vivi it's unclear. She could meet up with Straw Hats after a year (chapter wise) or never.
While I am at it, here's my last post :
Enough proof for yourself? Yes, but not for others. You were trying to convince us, not yourself. Why make this thread and argue with people if you can't come up with any decent arguments?
No, it's not the same thing and I already explained it. Should I dumb it down to kindergarden level so you could understand?
It wasn't this specific. She asked whether they would take her in as a friend if they ever meet again. She asked that to reassure herself if they are still friends despite her refusal to join. Basicly she asked "Will we still be friends after this?".
But, hey, keep milking your pathetic excuse, it's the only thing you still got in this debate.
It's cool that you think so but it's far from reasonable and logical, I wouldn't bother to argue if it was.
The only place they could meet up is Majories during the Reverie. It's not a secret that it will be heavily guarded since all of the worlds monarchs will be gathering there. It will be miracle if Straw Hats actually make it to there but if they do make it and meet up with Vivi, yes, Luffy will let her in IF she asks to join. Simply, because he would never brake a promise to her.
Tho, Oda won't make it happen. She might be a temporaly nakama during this Reverie arc (like she was during the Baroque Works arc) and she will always be their ally but she will never be a pemanent nakama.
And a very good one
Regarding Vivi ,she is not gonna join the Straw Hats as a Nakama (companion) but she is their friend just like how Boa hancock is an ally to the straw hats .Though friend and companion sounds similar ,they are not the same ,they have a slight difference between them . To make it short and sweet
"A companion is always your friend but a friend need not be you companion all the time " . This is the case with vivi,boa hancock,ivan chan ,mr.2 etc etc .
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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The OP is So sad, really he just keep repeating the same sentences over and over again so sad really
Just before WB dies, he said that there will be great war in the future. I think that war will be between BB and Luffy. She will eventually join SH's crew, she will come with her county's army, to help Luffy(Mermaid princess and sky island's army will come too)
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well duh i dont deserve one. but you did. i rep -/+ to people who deserve it. you still never answered my questions....look whose mad LOL
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answer the questions or gtfo
answer the questoins..She won't join. She joins and her whole country is murdered when the WG finds out that the princess of Alabasta is part of the SH crew. This is what probably will happen now that Akainu is fleet admiral. Absolute justice.
but you bring up a great point. but do you think Vivi alone can protect her whole country? doenst she have strong armies and great leaders who can command them like Chaka, Pell, Igaram and even Kohza.
and what you said Kainu would do is too extreme. give an example where a pirates country has been destroyed or attacked because the pirate came from there. now before you say Robin, mind you her country was destroyed because she was Oharu and the oharus were deciefering the poneglyphs, not because they were pirates.
answer the questions
i read Vivi comment how it is. and your right "if" but tell me honestly do you think Vivi will one day meet the SH again or do you think Oda have them never meet again?
she could be queen, she may be too weak to travel to the new world, or she may not be queen and she may have gotten alot stronger t otravel the new world. either or it doesnt matter because she made a promise. Jinbe made the same promise and people believe that he will be a nakama. why not Vivi if she made the exact same promise as Jinbe?
idk what role Vivi would play but what does that matter? if she promised to join them do you think Oda will ignore this? do you think he would write it out as Vivi breaking her promise? or maybe the SH will deny her the invitation they gave to her 2 years prior? what do you think?
yes she is their friend like Boa and like Coby who is also a rival and Mr 2 Bon Clay, but Boa, Coby, and Bon Clay were not asked to join the SH. thats the difference. Vivi was asked, declined but asked to join in the future when they met again. If Vivi and SH meet again what is holding her back to keeping her promise of joining them? would the SH deny her?
and nakama means companion, friend, family and/or crew member. the english translation is friend but it was like that for the first few 200 chapters and it was replaced with the word nakama.
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i agree that this is most likely to happen. i agree with everything you said ... thank you
What are you gonna do if I dont?
Neg rep me? Go ahead. I don't give a shit.
You mean these questions
I don't wanna.
She isn't joining.
Boa Hancock
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I'll answer it for the others.
No, I believe she will meet the SH sometime in the future, but not join them.
The Strawhats will never decline someone who they invited. Case in point, Franky. Oh, and she's still on the SH dishwashing rotation, though I dunno if that was filler or not.
It's very likely that he'll join, though I don't wanna since he's boring and people just think in power levels.
NarutoVsGoku
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if you dont give a shit why bother commenting? your words dont match your actions.
answer the questions or gtfo. its that simple. you can say "shes not joining" but honestly it means nothing if you dont back up what you say with compelling evidence. your a smart kid. im sure you can put up a compelling arguement.
thank you.
why would she go back on her promise? she promised to join if allowed to when they meet up again in the future. and you agree the SH would allow her to or at least not decline her. what she said in ch216 is nothing short of a foreshadow of whats to come in the future. just like how the SH promised to meet up again with Laboon, or Zoro aims to beat Mihawk for title of best Swordsmen, or Coby promise to fight Luffy, isnt Vivi promising to join in the future a foreshadow of whats to happen?
i agree its likely that Jinbe will join. personally i like him, he is wise, and has great credibility being a former shichibukai as well as strength. admirable, loyal and he helped Luffy when Luffy was at his lowest. hes a great chracter.
but besides all that why is his chances of joining any greater than Vivi if they made the same kind of promise to join?!
Boa Hancock
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I never said that. She never promised anything in the first place, she just asked if they would take her with them if they ever meet again, and the SH said yes. No promises there.
His chances are greater since Vivi is long past and Jinbe is now. Jinbe can also fight, which is a plus for misogynists and battlewhores, and has been helping Luffy expecting no reward in return.