And you are saying Enel would sit back and watch while the slow akainu and akoji come near him .If Enel wishes he can perfectly assassinate them even while they are sleeping .God's judgment ray what ever they should be enough for them until they evade it .
Enel can solo Admiral(1)or (2)
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Boa Hancock
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Now you're assuming the extreme end of the spectrum. I never stated that. Is Luffy faster than Akainu and Aokiji? I remember Luffy hitting Enel in Skypeia, and I remember Akainu intercepting G2 Luffy in the war. That's quite the contradiction there, innit?
Assassinate while sleeping? Please, even a sleeping Whitebeard could intercept Ace of all people. What more the Admirals?
OK I agree ,I was playing around with you cause I ain't getting sleep
Hmmm good point thought ,Lightning also doesn't fly like a bird or bite like a panther
.Also jinbie survived after hitting akainu's magma .Either Oda doesn't know about the physics of lightning or it is just one peice and we got agree to whatever Oda says .
luffy vs enel was like enel fighting with someone that had CoA plus a useless DF against him , still enel could beat luffy, because NO he didn't lose, losing means not being able to fight, and enel was very able to fight at that point he just left, so "a haki user can beat a non haki user" is not applicable
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Really?
Crocodile could beat Luffy, but Luffy put him down. Did that mean Croc didn't lose? Unlike some other series, losing in OP means losing your dream. Enel effectively lost when he realized he couldn't be god, so he gave up and went to the moon.
I don't see how that ties in with all this Haki triviality.
Professor Sarutobi
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He still thinks himself god he just couldn't blow up skypiea before leaving so luffy knocked his ass out and rang the bell and Enel just flew to the moon like he planned the whole time.
Crocodile also would have killed luffy 1v1 all 3 fights if it weren't for others saving luffy and only won last fight because of water. So until maybe getting the gears or mastering haki crocodile was stronger then luffy.
And I think with all 3 haki and some training Enel would be the strongest character overall but as far as when he was in skypiea he has a good chance vs kuzan, 50/50 vs akainu and no idea about kizaru because how do light and lightning match up?
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Logically, he wont beat Akainu but neither is Akainu fast enough to deal damage...so its a tie there.
Logically, He and Kizaru would be a damn good fight. Speed of light vs Lightning.....Can you really dodge the speed of light whether you know its coming or not (Mantra) ? Some people say Luffy did it vs the Pacifista, but I dont think that it was quite THAT fast.
Enel will destroy Akoji. Its just that simple.
Logically, He and Kizaru would be a damn good fight. Speed of light vs Lightning.....Can you really dodge the speed of light whether you know its coming or not (Mantra) ? Some people say Luffy did it vs the Pacifista, but I dont think that it was quite THAT fast.
Enel will destroy Akoji. Its just that simple.
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Go to the Naruto section. I'm sick of these Narutards coming into the One Piece section.
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How about we all ****ing get along. So the *******s who come from the Naruto section, that don't even understand what OP is about and don't give it a chance. And the *******s from the OP section who hate the entire Naruto fanbase just because of their conceited opinion that the manga they like is better than a manga that someone else loves can go away too.
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On Topic: I believe he could maybe beat an admiral if he was lucky. But he wouldn't be able to handle more than one, and definitively not easily.
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Skypeia Enel would be killed versus any of the Admirals. Pre-Gears Luffy managed to beat him up. It'd be the equivalent of someone with Buso and Kenbun fighting Enel. They're physically superior to Enel.
Like I said, are you saying that Skypeia Luffy is better physically than the Admirals? I know I posted things about DF matchups, but Enel is just not that beast physically. He'd get thrashed versus the Admirals, one of them is more than enough.
I think a logia user having a subtle element like fire,magma,light,lightning etc
cannot use Busoshoku Haki along with their logia elements .Cause these elements
do not have a form or shape .I can't even imagine a Busoshoku haki imbued in fire
or lightning .
when they were in their elemntal form ,we saw how akaoji got hurt when kozu broke
his ice form ,he spit out blood .why did not he imbue his ice form with bushoshoki haki ?
cause it very difficult form them to control both the things at the same time .
It is the same case with Akainu too ,when he was attacked by marco who was also
confirmed to have BH haki .He did got hurt .Now if akainu had imbued his Bushoshoku
haki with his magma element .he could have pawned amrco.why did he not do that .
Take the same ase with Kizaru Vs Rayliegh .Kizaru would have gained an upper hand
over rayliegh only if he has imbued his light elemental with his BH haki but he was
having difficulty facing Rayliegh who did not have any DF ability .All these evidence
shows that an logia user when uses a subtle logia element like fire or light cannot imbue
it with Bushoshoku haki .
here is an evidance that shows that
kizaru was not using his bushoshoki haki when he was using his elemtal powers .
Marco was using bushoshoki haki and kizaru was using his elemntal power here .
Even here is an evidance that shows that kizaru was not using his bushoshoki haki
when he was using his elemtal powers .
Even if he assume that kizaru
did use his haki when he using his elemental
attacks over marco,then his haki was very weak because marco's kick
did send kizaru flying away.This is the same case with akaoji too ,
when kozu broke akoji's ice form (he was completely dependent on his
logia DF not on his bushoshoki haki) .If he did imbue his ice form with bushoshoki haki ,
then Oda would has definitelt given us a clue or a visual distinction like how he did
with luffy (elephant gun ) .
So when Akainu or Akoji fights Enel we have to see their elemtal superiority not haki .
Even if the admirals does posses haki ,
I don't think their haki would be strong enough to stop a bolt of lightning .
cannot use Busoshoku Haki along with their logia elements .Cause these elements
do not have a form or shape .I can't even imagine a Busoshoku haki imbued in fire
or lightning .
when they were in their elemntal form ,we saw how akaoji got hurt when kozu broke
his ice form ,he spit out blood .why did not he imbue his ice form with bushoshoki haki ?
cause it very difficult form them to control both the things at the same time .
It is the same case with Akainu too ,when he was attacked by marco who was also
confirmed to have BH haki .He did got hurt .Now if akainu had imbued his Bushoshoku
haki with his magma element .he could have pawned amrco.why did he not do that .
Take the same ase with Kizaru Vs Rayliegh .Kizaru would have gained an upper hand
over rayliegh only if he has imbued his light elemental with his BH haki but he was
having difficulty facing Rayliegh who did not have any DF ability .All these evidence
shows that an logia user when uses a subtle logia element like fire or light cannot imbue
it with Bushoshoku haki .
here is an evidance that shows that
kizaru was not using his bushoshoki haki when he was using his elemtal powers .
Marco was using bushoshoki haki and kizaru was using his elemntal power here .
Even here is an evidance that shows that kizaru was not using his bushoshoki haki
when he was using his elemtal powers .
Even if he assume that kizaru
did use his haki when he using his elemental
attacks over marco,then his haki was very weak because marco's kick
did send kizaru flying away.This is the same case with akaoji too ,
when kozu broke akoji's ice form (he was completely dependent on his
logia DF not on his bushoshoki haki) .If he did imbue his ice form with bushoshoki haki ,
then Oda would has definitelt given us a clue or a visual distinction like how he did
with luffy (elephant gun ) .
So when Akainu or Akoji fights Enel we have to see their elemtal superiority not haki .
Even if the admirals does posses haki ,
I don't think their haki would be strong enough to stop a bolt of lightning .