[Genjutsu Training] Xmas Group ±± Nafan & Alternative
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*barfs as he sees your sig but quickly regains strength and avoids looking*you made 3 threads at once about same topic
Look again... These are training threads...for different people.
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Ok! Well, our first exercise is chakra control! As you know, the basic principles of Genjutsu require great chakra control. To achieve that you'll do a simple training.
I want you both to sit crossing your legs in front of each other. Then, i want you both to release your chakra into one and other while you focus. If you do things right, you'll both feel a kind of tickle in the back of your neck. Remember to target your partners nervous system. Remember to keep your breathing under control and to input enough chakra into this.
Try it ^^
I want you both to sit crossing your legs in front of each other. Then, i want you both to release your chakra into one and other while you focus. If you do things right, you'll both feel a kind of tickle in the back of your neck. Remember to target your partners nervous system. Remember to keep your breathing under control and to input enough chakra into this.
Try it ^^
-As I sit down cross legged, across from Alternative, I begin to relax my mind and body. After calming myself down I begin to mould my chakra in doing that I manipulate my chakra so that it moves into Alternative's lower neck, in doing that I keep my breathing slow and steady. I manipulate my chakra even more though his nervous system and to his brain. Now I use my chakra to manipulate Alternative sense of touch and slight tickling on the back lower side of Alternative neck.-
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I'll give it a go! I'm pretty sure I'll get it wrong, but no harm in trying.
Along with Nafan, I sit down as instructed and begin to relax my body and mind. The first thing I do is stabilize my breathing so it's at a nice and steady pace. From there I begin to manipulate chakra and try to insert it into Nafan, but more into his nervous system. When that's done I proceed to moving my chakra to his brain (since that's what Genjutsu is about) to try and get a reaction from him by causing a tickling sensation on the back of his lower neck. Once Nafan proceeds to take care of the sensation on his neck, I know I've completed the task at hand.
So, does any of you feel anything? I can tell with my byakugan that you are doing it right however, it leaves the question of if you are using enough chakra to make your opponent feel that ticklish feeling.
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Well I did feel a little tickling sensation in my lower neck, but my hemorrhoids have been flaring up lately, so it could be that...
Right! Now, i want you both to try and make me and my clone *makes a clone* perceive a wall in front of us. Use the same principle but "will" your chakra to make me visualize a wall. You need to, in your own minds, also visualize the wall. This can be tricky, but its called Yin manipulation. Using your imagination to will and mold your chakra into the desired effect.
Try it ^^
Try it ^^
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I'll try my best! ^^
Practicing the same technique as we used on each other earlier, I begin to focus my chakra while relaxing and only thinking of a sturdy brick wall which I could perceive into your mind. When I feel clear and ready to do so, I focus and manipulate my chakra into both yours, and your clone's brain so that I will now have control over what you can visualise. From there, taking those inner thoughts of the wall from earlier, I perceive that feeling into my chakra which I've inserted into both your brain in attempts to make you think there's a wall in front of you.
Here goes nothing. ^^
-Using the same technique as we used before on one another, while I'm still calm and relaxed, I begin to focus my chakra in doing so visualize a sturdy wall, when I am ready I start to manipulate and focus my chakra into both yours, and your clone's brain, so now I have control what you and your clone can visualise. Now from the sturdy wall I was thinking about before, I perceive that feeling into my chakra, which I have inserted into you and your clones brains to try and make you think your seeing a wall right in front of you.-
*suddenly a wall appears in front of me*
Hey clone, you seeing this? A wall?
Yeah boss!!
Good! Excellent!!! Now, you've learned this techinque:
(Genjutsu: Kokohin) - Illusion Technique: False surrounding
Rank: D
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10(+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The user controls creates a false surrounding which can change the way an object or small area looks(if used double then its a layer of false surroundings not easy noticed by the enemy).
Now, analyze this and tell some key points:
-Possible combos or good uses of this techinque?
-Limitations
-How would you counter this in a battle?
-Creative use (meaning, how far can you stretch the use of this technique in terms of creativity)
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Wait, that was the technique? I thought we were still practicing getting a grasp of genjutsu! :flaw:*suddenly a wall appears in front of me*
Hey clone, you seeing this? A wall?
Yeah boss!!
Good! Excellent!!! Now, you've learned this techinque:
(Genjutsu: Kokohin) - Illusion Technique: False surrounding
Rank: D
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10(+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The user controls creates a false surrounding which can change the way an object or small area looks(if used double then its a layer of false surroundings not easy noticed by the enemy).
Now, analyze this and tell some key points:
-Possible combos or good uses of this techinque?
-Limitations
-How would you counter this in a battle?
-Creative use (meaning, how far can you stretch the use of this technique in terms of creativity)
But anyway...
This technique gives the user to change the opponent's mind into thinking a small surrounding has changed, such as when we made you think a wall had appeared in front of you. If I were to use the same situation in battle, you could appear like you were hiding behind this wall to conceal some hand seals if you were preparing a Jutsu which needed them and your opponent had extensive knowledge of seals and knowing what jutsu lie behind every single string of hand seals. Another thing could be using a wall to conceal a Kunai being thrown at your opponent so they would have less time to react to it.
The biggest limitations to this technique is that it needs to be used at short range, meaning you're leaving yourself open to quite the amount of attacks which can be used at short range. Another thing is that this can be broken down quite easily since it's a weak genjutsu and strong ninja can tell it's an illusion. But I would say the biggest setback from this jutsu is that it only works in a small area. You wouldn't be able to manipulate an entire surrounding for your opponent, but something small, like a tree or a wall appearing in front of them.
Some counters for this would be basic ways to break out of genjutsu, being Kai, a foreign injection of chakra or stabbing yourself, since you're not left immobile when you're caught in this jutsu. You're only perceiving that there is something there which really isn't there, so your movement isn't restricted. Something else which could be a major weakness is just generally knowing your surroundings. If you're on a grassy plain when you're caught with this jutsu and your opponent makes you think a brick wall is in front of you, it's silly to think a brick wall would just be in the middle of a grassy plain, however the same situation could be used to your advantage.
Some interesting uses for this jutsu could be as basic as perceiving a tree in front of your opponent. If you're fighting in a forest, it wouldn't be strange for a tree to be in the forest, making the jutsu more effective. You don't have to focus on making something appear directly in front of them either. If you were using the same surrounding, you could perceive maybe some roots sprouting from the ground, making your opponent think that they would need to take larger steps to avoid tripping over the roots which they see. Maybe using the roots would mean that your opponent may take larger steps, not being able to concentrate their footing for a use of some particular jutsu which requires perfect balance.
The biggest limitations to this technique is that it needs to be used at short range, meaning you're leaving yourself open to quite the amount of attacks which can be used at short range. Another thing is that this can be broken down quite easily since it's a weak genjutsu and strong ninja can tell it's an illusion. But I would say the biggest setback from this jutsu is that it only works in a small area. You wouldn't be able to manipulate an entire surrounding for your opponent, but something small, like a tree or a wall appearing in front of them.
Some counters for this would be basic ways to break out of genjutsu, being Kai, a foreign injection of chakra or stabbing yourself, since you're not left immobile when you're caught in this jutsu. You're only perceiving that there is something there which really isn't there, so your movement isn't restricted. Something else which could be a major weakness is just generally knowing your surroundings. If you're on a grassy plain when you're caught with this jutsu and your opponent makes you think a brick wall is in front of you, it's silly to think a brick wall would just be in the middle of a grassy plain, however the same situation could be used to your advantage.
Some interesting uses for this jutsu could be as basic as perceiving a tree in front of your opponent. If you're fighting in a forest, it wouldn't be strange for a tree to be in the forest, making the jutsu more effective. You don't have to focus on making something appear directly in front of them either. If you were using the same surrounding, you could perceive maybe some roots sprouting from the ground, making your opponent think that they would need to take larger steps to avoid tripping over the roots which they see. Maybe using the roots would mean that your opponent may take larger steps, not being able to concentrate their footing for a use of some particular jutsu which requires perfect balance.
I hope that's enough. ^^
-Possible combos or good uses of this technique?*suddenly a wall appears in front of me*
Hey clone, you seeing this? A wall?
Yeah boss!!
Good! Excellent!!! Now, you've learned this techinque:
(Genjutsu: Kokohin) - Illusion Technique: False surrounding
Rank: D
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10(+5 if you use it double)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: The user controls creates a false surrounding which can change the way an object or small area looks(if used double then its a layer of false surroundings not easy noticed by the enemy).
Now, analyze this and tell some key points:
-Possible combos or good uses of this techinque?
-Limitations
-How would you counter this in a battle?
-Creative use (meaning, how far can you stretch the use of this technique in terms of creativity)
The user to change the opponent's mind into thinking a small surrounding has changed like
creating a tree where there wouldn't be hiding be-hide the tree thus, making that be helpful for you to do a couple of hand seals, or throwing a kunai at your opponent and that gives them little time to react.
creating a tree where there wouldn't be hiding be-hide the tree thus, making that be helpful for you to do a couple of hand seals, or throwing a kunai at your opponent and that gives them little time to react.
-Limitations
The biggest limitation would be it's range, because it is a short ranged jutsu, meaning you're leaving yourself open to quite the amount of attacks which can be used at short range. Since this jutsu is kind of weak, it can be broken easy but more skilled ninja's, again back to the range of this jutsu you can't manipulate everything around the whole surrounding, but only a tree or wall of such.
-How would you counter this in a battle?
The easiest way to break/counter this genjutsu would be a foreign injection of chakra or stabbing yourself, even biting your lip. Also you're only perceiving that there is something there which really isn't there, so your movement isn't restricted. Something else which could be a major weakness is just knowing your surroundings.
-Creative use (meaning, how far can you stretch the use of this technique in terms of creativity)
Uses for this jutsu could be as basic as perceiving a tree in front of your opponent. If you're fighting in a forest, and you could manipulate a tree right in front of them, and since your fighting in a forest that wouldn't be strange at all, or manipulating roots or some kind of vine, your opponent may take bigger steps then needed, because they might be using a jutsu that needs perfect balance.
Hope I have done enough.
Not bad. But as with all Genjutsu i need to point out some things you must take into account:
-Remember that the illusion may be done in such a perfect way that a normal (Non Dojutsu, Non sensing, Non Genjutsu expert) bio can't possibly figure out that there is a genjutsu in effect. If you are in a battle you must react as if you can't figure out that it was a genjutsu while still managing to find a way to figure out it was. Example: i make you see a giant spiked hole in front of you. (RP wize you know its a gen since you read the technique but realistically in a battle you don't ahve a way to know it is one) You react as you would with a normal earth jutsu. For example, earth mud wall into the hole, filling it with hardening mud. As the mud is about to enter the hole it doesn't and a giant wall materializes above it. You suddeenly see its an illusion. If you simply say "KAi" or "I stab myself" then your opponent will ask(if he is smart) "How did you know you were under a genjutsu?" and if you don't have a logical answer your counter is fail and breaks the realistic aspect of the battle rules. You can also figure out its a genjutsu by logic and description instead of with a jutsu. Just remember to make it so that its clear why you noticed it was a genjutsu.
-This genjutsu can be done for example, to make your opponent perceive earth spikes (or other earth jutsu for example) beneath him. Your opponent will be likely to use lightning technique and you can easily use a water technique to electrify him. Genjutsu's main weapon is makiing your opponent do a move you want him to do thus making your counter possible. Its about making them react as you want them to. Driving them to use the techniques you want them to use and that you predict they'll use.
Now, questions? ^^ I might not have explained myself very well.