SM NARUTO & SM JIRAIYA vs MS SASUKE & OROCHIMARU
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lanakau888
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naruto has improved in terms of clone usage...tell me how sasuke will know if he's going up a clone tagteam of sages?
miss with amaterasu and he dies with thousand years of pain WTH even elite enemies like pain were taken down by clones + simple henge techniques...all naruto has to do is sit down somewhere and let his sage clones do the job, while gathering nature energy himself so he never gets tired...naruto's clone can even hold up a battlefield nowadays and beat kage level shinobis...
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His sage mode would run out like it did against pain. den he deadnaruto has improved in terms of clone usage...tell me how sasuke will know if he's going up a clone tagteam of sages?
pain's chakra capacity is almost similar to naruto...
in terms of chakra:
naruto >>>>>> sasuke, that's why even now at the 4th shinobi war...kishi made it to the point that naruto will be tired once he meets sasuke...and sasuke's very fresh...at least to give sasuke some handicap since the chakra for a KB mode is almost unlimited...
anyway, back to the topic...where in the battle are you seeing sasuke using amaterasu? during the early stage or late stage? as from what we have seen, he's a skill spammer and that means he will run out of chakra easily and become food...
use amaterasu immediately and you'll loose the battle because you'll not even know if it's a clone or not...
plus sage team have ma and pa's frog song genjutsu which catches up even a rinnegan user...so they will keep both snaketeam busy while ma and pa's frog song genjutsu are taking effect then battle will end
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naruto will never be tired as long as the kyuubi gives him chakra. sasuke used amaterasu on bee, raikage and danzo. Naruto clones die easy one hit in the gone, sasuke kill burn ma n pa topain's chakra capacity is almost similar to naruto...
in terms of chakra:
naruto >>>>>> sasuke, that's why even now at the 4th shinobi war...kishi made it to the point that naruto will be tired once he meets sasuke...and sasuke's very fresh...at least to give sasuke some handicap since the chakra for a KB mode is almost unlimited...
anyway, back to the topic...where in the battle are you seeing sasuke using amaterasu? during the early stage or late stage? as from what we have seen, he's a skill spammer and that means he will run out of chakra easily and become food...
use amaterasu immediately and you'll loose the battle because you'll not even know if it's a clone or not...
plus sage team have ma and pa's frog song genjutsu which catches up even a rinnegan user...so they will keep both snaketeam busy while ma and pa's frog song genjutsu are taking effect then battle will end
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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he want uchiha body dude, he don't want to end up like kakashi and danzoof course...if he has sasuke's body the story would be different...
the thing is orochimaru didn't have enough time...he's stupid to implant the sharingan on danzo's arm but never did implant one or two on himself (ala kakashi)...
i mean at least he can counter uchiha's normal genjutsus once he has sharingan eyes, at least only tsukuyomi would render him useless in battle...like kakashi who had big boost because of that implanted eye...im pretty sure it would also help increase the chance of getting sasuke's body...
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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blame danzo for that since he take all the sharingan for him:shrug: the only sharingan when the story start is itachi and sasuke eyes
yeah but clone tag teams in sage mode aren't easy to battle with...as ive said, one mistake and sasuke will get rasengan on the face...tsukuyomi amaterasu + susanoo consumes massive chakras away from him...i don't believe that naruto will get hit easily with amaterasu especially in sage mode wherein he has sensing capabilities and jiraiya's information on those black flames since series 1...
as ive said when it comes to raw talent and number of jutsus in arsenal clearly snake team wins...when it comes to strength, teamwork effectivity and chakra, sage team wins...the reason why im asking people for opinions and poll is because i myself consider this match a draw with a slight lean on sasuke and oro...(because of the following jutsus: rebirth technique + kirin + genjutsu + poisons) not amaterasu and not susanoo as it takes a heavy toll on sasuke's chakra...
yes naruto might have help from sage nature and the strength coming from it which makes him and jiraiya very deadly...but my question is naruto's immunity against genjutsu...his clones are way too overpowering with immunity but he's not that smart yet as shown in manga
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tbh i don't understand how danzo even got a competition with 3rd hokage...with his performance against sasuke, i would say he's even weaker than orochimaru...the only thing that makes danzo strong without izanagi is his sealing techniques...somehow it's amazing to see someone who can actually paralyze you by just touching...
Totsuka No Tsurugi
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most likely in his prime he can compete with young hiruzen but hiruzen immediately surpass him when he become the hokage , and in the battle with sasuke danzo actually underestimate sasuke just because he has more sharingan
yeah but how can hiruzen immediately surpass someone that quick? and the only thing added to danzo is izanagi??? and hiruzen is known to have mastered all the jutsus in konoha...
that's insta-OP...
SM team wins..it took 6 pains to kill jiraya even after his heart stopped he could still move,he is the only ninja that has the ability to kill u with just his hairxd...
I don't know why ppl think orichimaro is stronger than jiraya just because he said he will master all justu which he didn't even come close to..even kakashi has 1000 justu,i doubt orichmaro has the brain to know all that,he will usually use scrolls to to put it down..
A lot of u forget that it was jiraya that let orichimaro go aliveU_U.think back to the night he left the 3rd he met jiraya who could have stopped him but jiraya was just like naruto,he believed that he could talk him out of it..thats y j man told naruto to forget about sasuke because he was once like him and failed....
Besides jiraya has more knowledge on the 5 villages than orichamaro remember he traveled all around...do u think that he is carrying those big scrolls for nothing to be able to seal amaterosri is not a child's play,to seal something hotter than fire & but u can't seal a body is impossible U_U
But orichimaro & sasuke welllllllll now that i think of it orichamro is even more useless in this battle because he can't use his hands for justu's so how is he going to bring the edos when he can't use hand seals
sasuke will just get blind using sasonoo & amatersori thats just it
If j man & naruto make the battle last longer using naruto SM clones who are the bad-ass clones of the year then sasuke will become a grandfather using walking stick to find his way back home to mummy orchimaroxd thats if jiraya does not cut off that snake head
I don't know why ppl think orichimaro is stronger than jiraya just because he said he will master all justu which he didn't even come close to..even kakashi has 1000 justu,i doubt orichmaro has the brain to know all that,he will usually use scrolls to to put it down..
A lot of u forget that it was jiraya that let orichimaro go aliveU_U.think back to the night he left the 3rd he met jiraya who could have stopped him but jiraya was just like naruto,he believed that he could talk him out of it..thats y j man told naruto to forget about sasuke because he was once like him and failed....
Besides jiraya has more knowledge on the 5 villages than orichamaro remember he traveled all around...do u think that he is carrying those big scrolls for nothing to be able to seal amaterosri is not a child's play,to seal something hotter than fire & but u can't seal a body is impossible U_U
But orichimaro & sasuke welllllllll now that i think of it orichamro is even more useless in this battle because he can't use his hands for justu's so how is he going to bring the edos when he can't use hand seals
sasuke will just get blind using sasonoo & amatersori thats just it
If j man & naruto make the battle last longer using naruto SM clones who are the bad-ass clones of the year then sasuke will become a grandfather using walking stick to find his way back home to mummy orchimaroxd thats if jiraya does not cut off that snake head
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