Arm Wrestling Sakura Vs Kisame

Who wins?

  • Sakura

    Votes: 17 38.6%
  • Draw

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Kisame

    Votes: 26 59.1%

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Turson

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Databooks are speaking in terms of one's actual physical strength, meaning their base so to speak (at least in this situation). Tsunade was noted to have naturally insane strength, which is only advanced through her use of this jutsu, which is why Tsunade has a 5 in that category. Sakura's power comes from her technique but without it she's only about a 3 (which is what the book is saying). Kisame's raw strength is 5, if enhanced with chakra it could be even greater.
Nope. Kakshis strenght is 3.5, yet his physical strenght << Sakuras enhanced strenght.
 

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You never gave any fact whatsoever. I personally dont consider Databook stats, but according to them Sakuras base strenght is 3, it only becomes much, much bigger when shes using her chakra control.

Accordining to manga Sakuras chakra enhanced strenght >> Kisames strenght.
You should consider the databook stats because that's what Kishi says are their strengths and weaknesses and since he's the creator that's fact...Are there only one moon in the sky because that's all you can see if you go outside?

@Reborn, thanks for making some sense. Lets humor Turson for a moment and say that Kisame is a weakling and Sakura can somehow use her chakra control force while she is already exerting all the base strength she has just to sorta stay in the game. When she wants to use that chakra control she'll have to let up on the pressure she's applying a litle giving her room for the push. Kisame will feel that and be ready resist or counter the blow.
 

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You should consider the databook stats because that's what Kishi says are their strengths and weaknesses and since he's the creator that's fact...Are there only one moon in the sky because that's all you can see if you go outside?
You must understand that 3 is score for Sakuras base strenght. When shes using her chakra control, her physical force becomes much, much greater. Kakashi has 3.5 in strenght, yet this is the way he reacter for Sakura when she used her chakra enhaced punch -> .
Kisame dont stand a chance to win arm wrestling against Sakura, thats a fact.
 

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If you going to insist that Kakashi would be able to to destroy even more landscape with simple punch, you are only going to ridicule yourself further.
 

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You know neither of us are going to win even though I'm right. We're just too stubborn to let up even though I'm using facts and and willing to consider another situation you're using the same picture over and over. I'm satisfied with my answer and it seems you are as well so I'm going to leave this thread now since neither of us are going to get anywhere. It's new years eve and I'm going to go drink now. Have a great new year and hopefully the next time we meet we'll be on the same side.
 

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If you going to insist that Kakashi would be able to to destroy even more landscape with simple punch, you are only going to ridicule yourself further.
Kakashi has a low amount of chakra, Kisame has an insane amount so no he can't. Seriously now this is my last post.
 

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You know neither of us are going to win even though I'm right. We're just too stubborn to let up even though I'm using facts and and willing to consider another situation you're using the same picture over and over. I'm satisfied with my answer and it seems you are as well so I'm going to leave this thread now since neither of us are going to get anywhere. It's new years eve and I'm going to go drink now. Have a great new year and hopefully the next time we meet we'll be on the same side.
Sorry, but Sakuras chakra enhaced strenght > Kisames strenght. Thats a fact. I won, you lose.
 

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Chakra control enhance Sakuras strenght momentarily, thats true, but it would be enought to break Kisames arm in few places at once. Kisame dont stand a chance to win against Sakura in arm wrestling.
Nope. Kakshis strenght is 3.5, yet his physical strenght << Sakuras enhanced strenght.
No, no you're not understanding what I'm saying in either situation. I'll start with databook.

Kakashi=3.5 that's his natural strength
Tsunade=5 that's her natural strength

so when they say power they're talking about base and no jutsu/chakra enhancement so Sakura's 3 is her natural strength. Sakura with chakra enhanced strength would be a 5 but that's not her base. That's what I'm saying the Databooks are most likely grading in this situation, do you get what I'm saying? It's obvious that Sakura's stronger then Kakashi with her chakra enhanced strength but when she's not using it, Kakashi is stronger.

Now for the momentary power thing, it's extremely momentary, meaning she releases it all at one focus point when she strikes. That jutsu she uses is meant for striking and it wouldn't help her because there is not impact point in this situation. It's two forces acting against each other and Sakura isn't applying the same method in arm wrestling as when she would strike something/someone.

If this was Kisame vs Sakura in a one-hit thing, yes she would win, but not in this situation.
 

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Lets see

the databook compares base abilities, so Sakura with no chakra 3 < kisame 5

now you add chakra and guess what she's also 5

Now the databook means nothing since they both have 5

Now its about feats and guess what sakura > kisame in strength feats

Conclusion Sakura strength> kisame strength
 

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If this was Kisame vs Sakura in a one-hit thing, yes she would win, but not in this situation.
This is Sakura with her chakra enhanced strenght vs. Kisame strenght. In that case, Sakura wins this easily. Even if Sakuras strenght is momentarily, its more than enough to overpower Kisame in arm wrestling. She would just break Kisames arm in fer places at once.
 
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Lets see

the databook compares base abilities, so Sakura with no chakra 3 < kisame 5

now you add chakra and guess what she's also 5

Now the databook means nothing since they both have 5

Now its about feats and guess what sakura > kisame in strength feats

Conclusion Sakura strength> kisame strength
Well, thats obvious, but try to say this to Kisames fanboys / fangirsls.
 

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This is Sakura with her chakra enhanced strenght vs. Kisame strenght. In that case, Sakura wins this easily. Even if Sakuras strenght is momentarily, its more than enough to overpower Kisame in arm wrestling. She would just break Kisames arm in fer places at once.
Sakura's power is generated and release through impact point.

Her fist impacts a wall boom, wall broken.

She's not hitting him in arm wrestling, she's trying to force his hand onto the table or whatever.
 

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Sakura's power is generated and release through impact point.

Her fist impacts a wall boom, wall broken.

She's not hitting him in arm wrestling, she's trying to force his hand onto the table or whatever.
This is not actual battle, but arm wrestling. Matches like this can be decided in one second, if one one side has much more strenght than the other, like in this case. She can broke Kisames arm in few places in one moment - she has more time than enough to definietly win this.
 
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Sakura's power is generated and release through impact point.

Her fist impacts a wall boom, wall broken.

She's not hitting him in arm wrestling, she's trying to force his hand onto the table or whatever.
that's not how chakra control works, you exert chakra into your body parts, that's how its always worked. Back in part 1, she would exert chakra to her legs to move faster. Chakra bursting at points of impact is how gentle fist works, not chakra control.
 

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This is not actual battle, but arm wrestling. Matches like this cant ve decides in one second, if one one side has much more strenght than the other, like in this case. She can broke Kisames arm in few places in one moment - she has more time than enough to definietly win this.
But as soon as the power is released she has to go through the process all over again, and if your vastly superior, physically to your opponent the match can end in a matter of a second. It could be as simple as

Ref: Alright and begin!

*Kisame slams Sakura's hand to the ground*

Kisame: Done.

Sakura's base strength is very much below's Kisame's for that to be a possiblity and chakra enhanced strength wont' work in this situation.

that's not how chakra control works, you exert chakra into your body parts, that's how its always worked. Back in part 1, she would exert chakra to her legs to move faster. Chakra bursting at points of impact is how gentle fist works, not chakra control.
That's how Sakura's technique works as well, she focuses the chakra into a point and then releases it at that one point. Difference between gentle fist and this technique, chakra goes into opponent's body with the gentle fist and Sakura's technique releases externally into physical power.

Here's the concept of Sakura's technique. When you throw a punch you generate your power into your fist by taking your power from the ground and channeling it through your body into your fist and then when you hit something, you release all that power. That's what Sakura's technique is based on, the simplicities on throwing an actual punch however your generated power would be chakra instead starting from the ground.

She's focusing the chakra all the time maybe but she's not releasing it in the same way when in an arm wrestling match and even if it's all stored it's nothing until it's exited the body in some way.
 

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Ref: Alright and begin!

*Kisame slams Sakura's hand to the ground*

Kisame: Done.
Nope. It would be something like that.

Ref: Alright and begin!

*Sakura released her chakra and in one moment slams Kisames hand to the ground, probably breaking few of his bones in the process*

Sakura: Done.

The difference between Sakuras chakra enhanced strenght and Kisames strenght is just too big, one moment would be more than enough to win this match.
But as soon as the power is released she has to go through the process all over again
She wouldnt need to go through that process all over again, becuase match would be already over. As simple as that. Stop saying ridiculous things, please.
 
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