Hashirama is the strongest shinobi ever to live after Sage of six Paths

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How will he control 6 tailed beast like pets when they're all charging at him?, well he did this against madara, but in this case it was the 9 tails.

Look at it this way, if madara can fully control the fox and even he got the fox taken off him, how would somebody who cannot control the tailed beast do against hashirama?.

Tobi's sharigan powers?. From what i know about the sharigans abilities its limited. Tobi's sharigan im certain is an ms

you have a point....but how will he control them at the same time?
 

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aww my bad lol I think the younger son won can be true maybe not. But thats the case with madara and Hashirama :p Hasirama is the younger madara is the elder and Madara got defeated xD. Madara said hes fight was fated so maybe his defeat was fated too :p

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aww my bad lol I think the younger son won can be true maybe not. But thats the case with madara and Hashirama :p Hasirama is the younger madara is the elder and Madara got defeated xD. Madara said hes fight was fated so maybe his defeat was fated too :p

its ok lol.

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Yeh I agree.
 

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The kyuubi was sealed within Mito during the battle between Hashirama and Madara. Madara took control of the kyuubi before his fight with Hashirama as shown here.

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Mito sealed the fox in her after the fight. I went over this in another thread and said the same thing but no she was sealed after.
 

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Where does it say Hashirama can control multiple beasts at one? I doubt even Madara could do that. Controlling 6 beats is too much, im surprised Tobi can do it.

Trying to find the chapter, but failed xd.
Anyway from what i remember it was said that he had several of them under his control

you have a point....but how will he control them at the same time?

Above^^^.

I will look for the chapter still
 

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Trying to find the chapter, but failed xd.
Anyway from what i remember it was said that he had several of them under his control

Ahh, well if Hashirama really can control multiple beasts like pets at once, then respect to him. Being able to fully control 6 Bijuu's is just OP lol. I still doubt it though, controlling multiple Bijuu is kinda too much. It would also explain why Tobi isn't controlling the 6 Bijuu like that.
 
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Hiruzen lost because of his old age and this is even stated. Also how do you know Hashirama would beat Orochimaru in old age? Are you psychic or are you the manga writer? No.

this. :) try and imagine him when he was 20 :L wow
 

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1. hashirama vs madara is not a good example for backing his strength up since madara was just fighting for DNA and madara got his full power after that fight, plus hashirama had control of the fox too

2. nagato can beat hashirama

3. so can itachi

4. hes getting overrated

i completly agree.:)
 

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I think the fight was like this
Madara + Fox vs Hashirama + Mito
then Hashirama had controll over the Fox because of his wood release which can cushion (notsure if its tbe right word) the kyuubis power
madara vs hashirama + fox + mito
and finally the kyuubi was sealed in her
madara vs mito(jinchuriiki) + hashirama
and ninjas who can beat hashirama
edo madara
hiruzen prime
itachi maybe
nagato maybe
and maybe not yet but they will surpass him : naruto and sasuke
 
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The kyuubi was sealed within Mito during the battle between Hashirama and Madara. Madara took control of the kyuubi before his fight with Hashirama as shown here.

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Wrong. It was after the fact that Mito became the 9 tail jinchuuriki. Think...or Mito wouldnt have been able to pass on the 9 tails to Kushina.

You people need to stop linking manga pieces to create your falsehoods.
 

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.....The Rinnigan is the strongest occular power, in the spiritual side of the family which the elder son had, but the younger had physical powers...but they were both equal.
<------ shows Madara saying he did lose to Harashima, despite gaining his powers.
In my opinion Madara would beat Edo Madara.

NAGATO HUMILIATE THE 1ST?HA! Naruto Sage Mose, the 3 great frog sages, AND an almost released Kurama beat Pain. The 1st handled a fully fledges 9 tailed fox, with both its Yin And Yang Chakra, and the infamous Madara uchiha.

And If the 1st fought one of teh greatest ninjas in the Uchiha clan, imsure he has a way to counter the non EMS and non Rinnegan Itachi.

Reread what you posted. It says "despite losing to Hashirama" he didn't die and had gained some of his powers. It didn't say "despite gaining Hashirama's powers and still losing."
 

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Nagato +Tobi with paths all would beat him

not sure about madara seeing as i dnt know wether madara had rinnegan during the fight
 

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All youve said is true, but there seems to be alot of mystery about that fight.
At first we thought hashirama defeated madara.
Then we thought it was hashirama vs madara + kyuubi
Then we get it was hashirama + mito (kyuubi jinchurciki) vs madara
Then we get madara was fighting for his dna, either to obtain the rennigan or for his wood release.

I am somewhat doubting that hashirama defeated a 100% percent madara in a 1 vs 1 situation. Manga hasnt fully clarified this issue imo


It was clearly said that Hashirama defeated Madara in the Valley of ends. Also, just before madara died, he had activated the rinnegan. So Hashirama defeated madara with a rinnegan. In the manga, it shows Madara has a control of Kyuubi during his fight with Hashirama. It was after their battle that the Kyuubi was sealed due to Kyuubis immense power that he cannot let to roam free. And lastly, I just find it bs that Madara will fight Hashirama just for his DNA. He fought hashirama to defeat him but he failed. He cannot defeat hashirama that he just settled for his DNA and continue his plan in the future, eventually when hashirama will be already dead to counter his plan. Oh c'mon...it will be better that Madara will kill Hashirama and get his DNA when he is dead. But in the end Madara is a failure.
 

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It was clearly said that Hashirama defeated Madara in the Valley of ends. Also, just before madara died, he had activated the rinnegan. So Hashirama defeated madara with a rinnegan. In the manga, it shows Madara has a control of Kyuubi during his fight with Hashirama. It was after their battle that the Kyuubi was sealed due to Kyuubis immense power that he cannot let to roam free. And lastly, I just find it bs that Madara will fight Hashirama just for his DNA. He fought hashirama to defeat him but he failed. He cannot defeat hashirama that he just settled for his DNA and continue his plan in the future, eventually when hashirama will be already dead to counter his plan. Oh c'mon...it will be better that Madara will kill Hashirama and get his DNA when he is dead. But in the end Madara is a failure.

Hashirama defeated him, but he never killed him. Madara survived his battle with Hashirama:

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So Hashirama never faced a Rinnegan Madara, he faced an EMS Madara.

It is uncertain but it looks like you need Senju DNA to unclock the Rinnegan. That + Hashirama's KKG would be a very good enough reason to fight him, seeing as how strong the Rinnegan and Wood Release are. He wanted to get Hashirama's DNA whilst surviving, both of which he accomplished.
 

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Hashirama had control over all nine of the tailed beasts, and he gave them to other villages to distrubute their power. That alone should let people kno how powerful this man was. and in order to have that control over all of the tailed beasts he had to have an array of justus that he used. Wood only being one of his most powerful!

The only man that i can see being more powerful than he was is the so6p....
we really dont kno if he did or did not auctaully kill madara but we do kno madara wasn't a match for Hishirama.
 

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It was clearly said that Hashirama defeated Madara in the Valley of ends. Also, just before madara died, he had activated the rinnegan. So Hashirama defeated madara with a rinnegan. In the manga, it shows Madara has a control of Kyuubi during his fight with Hashirama. It was after their battle that the Kyuubi was sealed due to Kyuubis immense power that he cannot let to roam free. And lastly, I just find it bs that Madara will fight Hashirama just for his DNA. He fought hashirama to defeat him but he failed. He cannot defeat hashirama that he just settled for his DNA and continue his plan in the future, eventually when hashirama will be already dead to counter his plan. Oh c'mon...it will be better that Madara will kill Hashirama and get his DNA when he is dead. But in the end Madara is a failure.

I'm pretty sure its obvious to most of us that he fought him for more than just DNA, but he lost and he didn't go away empty handed. I'm sure he planned on taking DNA from him even if he won because he coveted the ability to control multiple tailed beasts.
 

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So6P>1st Hokage
 

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Hashirama defeated him, but he never killed him. Madara survived his battle with Hashirama:

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So Hashirama never faced a Rinnegan Madara, he faced an EMS Madara.

It is uncertain but it looks like you need Senju DNA to unclock the Rinnegan. That + Hashirama's KKG would be a very good enough reason to fight him, seeing as how strong the Rinnegan and Wood Release are. He wanted to get Hashirama's DNA whilst surviving, both of which he accomplished.


Madara himself said that he gained rinnegan a moment before he died. He had this rinnegan while still alive...fighting Hashirama.I believe he died fighting Hashirama. Because if he survived his battle with Hashirama, then he must have been killed by other shinobi or died by other means? Nothing is heard about that madara after their battle. It will be easier for Madara's plans to kill hashirama and get his DNA, but he cannot defeat the 1st hokage. Well, still a lot is yet to be revealed about these mysteries.
 
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