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Why are you biting your lip? You are still under the genjutsu. Bitting the lip doesn't give enough pain for that. As i said, try and disturb your own chakra flow through sheer will. U_U
Oh sorry >_>

*As I notice the vines coming out of the ground and binding my legs I realise I'm under genjutsu and try to relax myself. I then try to breath out slowly and concentrate on the chakra flowing throughout my whole body whilst doing this I notice your chakra flowing within my body I then forcefully stop my chakra flow in order to disrupt my normal chakra flow in order to get out of your genjutsu*
 

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Good!!! You both have now learned this technique:

(Genjutsu: Kai) - Illusion Technique: Release
Rank: C
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:15 (+3 for each rank above c)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: Dispells All genjutsu except Eye Techniques,Bringer Of Darkness, Demonic Flute Illusion:Binding Chains, Tree Binding Death, and Toad Duet.

A self imposed chakra disturbance that releases you from a Genjutsu.

Now, go sift through the battle rules and try finding the Genjutsu Release rules, copy it and quote it here. Read it to detail and ask any questions you can remember about it ^^
 

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Good!!! You both have now learned this technique:

(Genjutsu: Kai) - Illusion Technique: Release
Rank: C
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:15 (+3 for each rank above c)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: Dispells All genjutsu except Eye Techniques,Bringer Of Darkness, Demonic Flute Illusion:Binding Chains, Tree Binding Death, and Toad Duet.

A self imposed chakra disturbance that releases you from a Genjutsu.

Now, go sift through the battle rules and try finding the Genjutsu Release rules, copy it and quote it here. Read it to detail and ask any questions you can remember about it ^^
Kai, otherwise known as the Genjutsu release may only be used twice per battle and it only works against B rank genjutsu and bellow, any other escape of a Genjutsu must be done by other means.
Is this the one you wanted?
And no questions from me, I've read and understood the battle arena rules before.
 

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Good!!! You both have now learned this technique:

(Genjutsu: Kai) - Illusion Technique: Release
Rank: C
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:15 (+3 for each rank above c)
Damage Points:N/A
Description: Dispells All genjutsu except Eye Techniques,Bringer Of Darkness, Demonic Flute Illusion:Binding Chains, Tree Binding Death, and Toad Duet.

A self imposed chakra disturbance that releases you from a Genjutsu.

Now, go sift through the battle rules and try finding the Genjutsu Release rules, copy it and quote it here. Read it to detail and ask any questions you can remember about it ^^
Kai, otherwise known as the Genjutsu release may only be used twice per battle and it only works against B rank genjutsu and bellow, any other escape of a Genjutsu must be done by other means.
As is says in the part I've bolded, Kai only works on B-rank and below. Now in the actual jutsu above, it says "Dispells All" genjutsu aside from the listed ones next to it. To release above C-rank it requires +3 for every rank. In the rules it says we can only dispell up to B-rank but in the jutsu it says we have the ability to release any genjutsu, so long as we follow the code in additional chakra requirment for gen above C-rank. Are we, or are we not allowed to release genjutsu of all levels, so long as account for the extra chakra needed? The Jutsu contradicts the rules in a way. That's my only question concerning the topic.
 

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Currently only up to B-Rank. Beyond that Kai won't be enough.

Well, have you both read the complete rules? Aren't there any other ways to dispel genjutsu stated there? *hint*
 

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Forgive me sensei but I neglect to see underneath the underneath U_U


I don't see any other methods specified in the rules on how to break genjutsu other then the Kai rule, which can only be used twice...:shrug:
 

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Hum to get things going this is the rule:

Genjutsu Release restrictions:

►When coming to release genjutsu techniques there are a few methods available that can help remove the affects. There basic of methods is through the appliance of pain for example stabbing oneself with a kunai in the leg can cause pain throughout the body and breaking genjutsu up to S rank level and Doujutsu up to A rank level. Members who posses sage modes are invulnerable to Genjutsu and doujutsu except Mangekyo level genjutsu. Bijuu who possess full control and of the rank of Kage are able to disrupt the chakra flow from the opponents Genjutsu. Techniques that produce a sufficient chakra surges thought the users body may disrupt genjutsu of the rank below the used technique for example Chidori Nagashi A rank lightning technique can disrupt genjutsu of up to B rank.
Note: Lip biting or biting of tounge doesn’t cause enough pain to break free from genjutsu so this method is unallowed, however biting tounge off completely could work but obviously without its risks.
You can find it

Now, tell me, do you both understand? ^^
 

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Hum to get things going this is the rule:



You can find it

Now, tell me, do you both understand? ^^
Holy Gingerbread 0.o Where did those come from :crazy::crazy:

Oh wait, I remember reading those before and I knew there was more but I didn't think to look in the rules section :ghehe: -.- should've been the first place I looked...

I get it now, I have a question about using jutsu to produce a significant amount of chakra surge, The chidori technique mentioned, that seems like the only real method to use, that and other lightning based techniques similar to it. What other types of techniques send surges throughout the body, canon I mean. One can always create a custom jutsu to imitate such affects but what about canon jutsu, are there any types of other jutsu to make that happen?
 

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Holy Gingerbread 0.o Where did those come from :crazy::crazy:

Oh wait, I remember reading those before and I knew there was more but I didn't think to look in the rules section :ghehe: -.- should've been the first place I looked...

I get it now, I have a question about using jutsu to produce a significant amount of chakra surge, The chidori technique mentioned, that seems like the only real method to use, that and other lightning based techniques similar to it. What other types of techniques send surges throughout the body, canon I mean. One can always create a custom jutsu to imitate such affects but what about canon jutsu, are there any types of other jutsu to make that happen?
Well, before you had the agravatted rock technique which is now a different technique so it doesn't count. For example, Hidden In Stones would disrupt up to C-Rank genjutsu. Techniques in which you need to focus chakra through your whole body basically. Not many exist. I actually don't agree with the definition of this. But one can't argue with it. I prefer the pain based methods.
 

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Well, before you had the agravatted rock technique which is now a different technique so it doesn't count. For example, Hidden In Stones would disrupt up to C-Rank genjutsu. Techniques in which you need to focus chakra through your whole body basically. Not many exist. I actually don't agree with the definition of this. But one can't argue with it. I prefer the pain based methods.
*sigh* after all that I'll begin to feel like a masochist lol. I figured that not many techniques existed like that....that gives me some ideas for customs lol.

Last question and then I'm all set...or until something else happens. You can make customs of any rank but you can't use them if they're not usable to you, like say if I were to make an A-ranked genjutsu right now, I wouldn't be able to use it because I'm not at that rank in genjutsu. I get that part, now I want to know, when other people make customs, do you have to get their permission to use them, if there are no specified restrictions you need that is.

My A-ranked genjutsu that I made, I can't use but nobody else can use it unless I give permission correct (for the sake of argument the jtusu is approved)?
 

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*sigh* after all that I'll begin to feel like a masochist lol. I figured that not many techniques existed like that....that gives me some ideas for customs lol.

Last question and then I'm all set...or until something else happens. You can make customs of any rank but you can't use them if they're not usable to you, like say if I were to make an A-ranked genjutsu right now, I wouldn't be able to use it because I'm not at that rank in genjutsu. I get that part, now I want to know, when other people make customs, do you have to get their permission to use them, if there are no specified restrictions you need that is.

My A-ranked genjutsu that I made, I can't use but nobody else can use it unless I give permission correct (for the sake of argument the jtusu is approved)?
Well, you can't submitt customs of a given rank before you are trained in that rank. You can submitt an A-Rank Genjutsu before learning A-Rank Genjutsu. Its not even a question of using it. You can't even submitt it in the CJ thread. If you are caught, you are banned from the Cj thread for a big amount of time and may even suffer aditional RP punishment.

Once you learned up to the necessary rank, you can submitt it. Once approved, anyone with training up to that rank and who have your permission may use it ^^
 

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Well, you can't submitt customs of a given rank before you are trained in that rank. You can submitt an A-Rank Genjutsu before learning A-Rank Genjutsu. Its not even a question of using it. You can't even submitt it in the CJ thread. If you are caught, you are banned from the Cj thread for a big amount of time and may even suffer aditional RP punishment.

Once you learned up to the necessary rank, you can submitt it. Once approved, anyone with training up to that rank and who have your permission may use it ^^
Oh I get it now.

I wasn't even planning on submitting until I had enough elements and crap under my belt anyway. Right now I'm...C-ranked in Suiton I believe and I'm still I'm doing genjutsu with you...I have no other instructors right now :ghehe: you guys really are busy oh well.

I lied...here's the last thing (I mean it this time don't worryxd) You can teach other people your techniques even if you're not a sensei right? I mean I see things like can only be taught by [insert name here] right? And I forget how many are we allowed to submit? I remember seeing it somewhere but I don't remember where I think if was in the 30s
 

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Hum to get things going this is the rule:



You can find it

Now, tell me, do you both understand? ^^
Damn so thats where it was >_>
and yeah I understand.

Oh I get it now.

I wasn't even planning on submitting until I had enough elements and crap under my belt anyway. Right now I'm...C-ranked in Suiton I believe and I'm still I'm doing genjutsu with you...I have no other instructors right now :ghehe: you guys really are busy oh well.

I lied...here's the last thing (I mean it this time don't worryxd) You can teach other people your techniques even if you're not a sensei right? I mean I see things like can only be taught by [insert name here] right? And I forget how many are we allowed to submit? I remember seeing it somewhere but I don't remember where I think if was in the 30s
And about that bit in bold I was also wondering, do you just explain to the person your sharing that custom jutsu with, how the jutsu works and leave it at that or do you actually have to teach them like sensei teach us? 0_0
 

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Well, its really up you the person. Most people don't teach it. I personally always taught my CJs when i gave them to others. However, you can simply send a VM to the person stating how the jutsu works, its best use, etc etc.

Cj's are yours, so you can teach them to anyone you want or simply allow them to use it. Its up to you but most people don't teach them, they simply give them. The only exception to this is CE's. You can make 2 CE once you reach the requirements but you can only teach your CE's once you become a Sensei.

Giving them (Cj's) away in a broad spectrum is a very bad idea. CJ's are what make you unique in the RP. They are your signature. Think twice before trading them openly. They are very precious.

Don't forget that. Ready to move on?
 

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Well, its really up you the person. Most people don't teach it. I personally always taught my CJs when i gave them to others. However, you can simply send a VM to the person stating how the jutsu works, its best use, etc etc.

Cj's are yours, so you can teach them to anyone you want or simply allow them to use it. Its up to you but most people don't teach them, they simply give them. The only exception to this is CE's. You can make 2 CE once you reach the requirements but you can only teach your CE's once you become a Sensei.

Giving them (Cj's) away in a broad spectrum is a very bad idea. CJ's are what make you unique in the RP. They are your signature. Think twice before trading them openly. They are very precious.

Don't forget that. Ready to move on?
Yep I'm all set :D
 

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Well, its really up you the person. Most people don't teach it. I personally always taught my CJs when i gave them to others. However, you can simply send a VM to the person stating how the jutsu works, its best use, etc etc.

Cj's are yours, so you can teach them to anyone you want or simply allow them to use it. Its up to you but most people don't teach them, they simply give them. The only exception to this is CE's. You can make 2 CE once you reach the requirements but you can only teach your CE's once you become a Sensei.

Giving them (Cj's) away in a broad spectrum is a very bad idea. CJ's are what make you unique in the RP. They are your signature. Think twice before trading them openly. They are very precious.

Don't forget that. Ready to move on?
okie, and yeah im ready!
 

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Right! Now, next ones:

Simple one. You make the enemy see you dissolve into flower petals and then induces him into a sleep lussion making him stay deep asleep.

(Genjutsu: Kahen Dizorubu) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Dissolve
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10
Damage Points:N/A
Description: This illusion makes the user think there being dissolved into sakura petals and renders them fast asleep bound in this illusion.

Simple description. Your enemy will see a tree coming from the ground as it binds him while you take that time to stab them with a kunai.

(Genjutsu: Jubaku Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Death
Rank: B
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:20
Damage Points:40
Description: Binds the user to a tree were the user then stabs them with a kunai.
 

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Right! Now, next ones:

Simple one. You make the enemy see you dissolve into flower petals and then induces him into a sleep lussion making him stay deep asleep.

(Genjutsu: Kahen Dizorubu) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Dissolve
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10
Damage Points:N/A
Description: This illusion makes the user think there being dissolved into sakura petals and renders them fast asleep bound in this illusion.

Simple description. Your enemy will see a tree coming from the ground as it binds him while you take that time to stab them with a kunai.

(Genjutsu: Jubaku Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Death
Rank: B
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:20
Damage Points:40
Description: Binds the user to a tree were the user then stabs them with a kunai.
Ok first jutsu

*I release my chakra around my opponent to disturb his senses and make him/her thing I'm dissolving into sakura petals whilst in reality I'm standing opposite him/her*

Second jutsu

*I gather my chakra and release it towards my opponent where it then surrounds him and goes into his brain disturbing his/her own chakra flow. I then make my opponent think he/she is bound by a tree whilst this is happening I'm behind my opponent and I immediately stab him/her with a kunai*
 

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Right! Now, next ones:

Simple one. You make the enemy see you dissolve into flower petals and then induces him into a sleep lussion making him stay deep asleep.

(Genjutsu: Kahen Dizorubu) - Illusion Technique: Flower Petal Dissolve
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:10
Damage Points:N/A
Description: This illusion makes the user think there being dissolved into sakura petals and renders them fast asleep bound in this illusion.

Simple description. Your enemy will see a tree coming from the ground as it binds him while you take that time to stab them with a kunai.

(Genjutsu: Jubaku Satsu) - Illusion Technique: Tree Binding Death
Rank: B
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short
Chakra Cost:20
Damage Points:40
Description: Binds the user to a tree were the user then stabs them with a kunai.
*Focusing on the illusion, I transmit my chakra precisly into my opponent, causing a interfearance in their natural flow of chakra, casting them in the illusion. The illusion in affect, now causes my opponent to begin seeing my body dispell into several flower petals and begin to surround him and a marvolous dance in the wind, which begins to enduce them in a trans, causing them to fall asleep*

*Transfering my chakra to my opponent, I begin the illusion by disapearing in a blur, just as a tall tree begins to emerge behind them. My opponent is then bound to the tree by the limbs and extentions from the tree wrapping themselves around him, rendering him motionless. At that moment I appear out of the tree (while actually I'm behind him) and slit his neck.*
 

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Ok first jutsu

*I release my chakra around my opponent to disturb his senses and make him/her thing I'm dissolving into sakura petals whilst in reality I'm standing opposite him/her*

Second jutsu

*I gather my chakra and release it towards my opponent where it then surrounds him and goes into his brain disturbing his/her own chakra flow. I then make my opponent think he/she is bound by a tree whilst this is happening I'm behind my opponent and I immediately stab him/her with a kunai*
*Focusing on the illusion, I transmit my chakra precisly into my opponent, causing a interfearance in their natural flow of chakra, casting them in the illusion. The illusion in affect, now causes my opponent to begin seeing my body dispell into several flower petals and begin to surround him and a marvolous dance in the wind, which begins to enduce them in a trans, causing them to fall asleep*

*Transfering my chakra to my opponent, I begin the illusion by disapearing in a blur, just as a tall tree begins to emerge behind them. My opponent is then bound to the tree by the limbs and extentions from the tree wrapping themselves around him, rendering him motionless. At that moment I appear out of the tree (while actually I'm behind him) and slit his neck.*

Good! now, creative uses for these techniques? And what about limitations and counters? ^^
 
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