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I thought X Drake was the one that was looking for Kaidou two years ago?

As for Shanks, it will be interesting to see how Oda goes about developing his story. I truthfully think that he will be the last challenge for Luffy, and Luffy will have to defeat him in order to become the Pirate King. But I could also see what Boa said becoming true, and that BlackBeard will kill Shanks before Luffy has the chance to see him again. Leading Luffy to defeat Blackbeard, then ending his journey at Raftel.

But who knows. I just think that Luffy will definitely meet Shanks at some point, and that maybe after their meeting Shanks goes to war with BlackBeard and dies.
idk i honestly think after what rayleigh said i think the sh will come to a different conclusion once they get to raftel i think they will destroy the WG
 

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I thought X Drake was the one that was looking for Kaidou two years ago?

As for Shanks, it will be interesting to see how Oda goes about developing his story. I truthfully think that he will be the last challenge for Luffy, and Luffy will have to defeat him in order to become the Pirate King. But I could also see what Boa said becoming true, and that BlackBeard will kill Shanks before Luffy has the chance to see him again. Leading Luffy to defeat Blackbeard, then ending his journey at Raftel.

But who knows. I just think that Luffy will definitely meet Shanks at some point, and that maybe after their meeting Shanks goes to war with BlackBeard and dies.
Oh :eek: My mistake.
Kidd was just having fun exploring the New World, which means:

Maybe it really was just an Accident

X Drake failed his purpose, or maybe got what he wanted (Which wasn't to kill Kaidou)
 

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Luffy is gonna destroy the Candy Factory in front of those two crewmates of Big Mam, and thus dooming Fishman Island. Maybe that was Shirley prediction. Him destroying Candy Factory, would mean that Fishman Island is done for.
And he will destroy the Candy Factory to sever the bonds of Fishman island and Big Mam. Removing her influence from the island.
 

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" Its too dangerous to leave you in charge of this place So i'm gonna kick your ass when i get to the new world and make fishman island my turf! "

Monkey. D Luffy, dude you made me worship you for this.
 

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Lol, thanks.

I wonder if Luffy will actually defeat all the Yonkous. It seems like Big Mom is really hating this guy, but we still have the Lola card. Now, your end is possible, yet there are some stuff missing. Personally, ending Shanks with Blackbeard just to give Luffy the time to go to Raftel is not a very fulfilling ending for a character as big as Shanks. Now I'll give you one thing to think about:

Shanks traveled with Rodger to the end of the Grandline, I assume. The other option is that only a select few members of the Rodger Pirates actually made the last leg of the journey, while the others stayed behind. (Something to do with destiny?) Or maybe Shanks was purposedly left behind so that he could find One Piece on his own, with his own crew (like other young pirates (Buggy)), and only the old members of the crew made the final journey. In that case, Shanks went back to find a crew and then made it to the New World and is now trying to find One Piece. He doesn't seem very suspicious, and he is pretty laid back, the chances are that he is keeping a secret of some sorts.

On the other hand, he might have traveled to the end of the Grand Line, and is now waiting for something to happen. Rayleigh said they found the truth, but did not have the skills to understand it, or couldn't do something about it. Luffy is on the path to discover it, and so Shanks is waiting for him.

Maybe Shanks will be the guide for Luffy to either find Raftel or after he finds it, to pursue the truth. As such, Shanks role is not only to be an inspiration for Luffy, but to also be a guidance, linked with the void century.

Having Luffy put the hat on Shanks grave and then disband the Straw Hat Pirates is good though. But I wonder, what if it's someone else's grave? Possible suspects:

- Garp
- Dragon
- Rodger
- Rayleigh
- Luffy's Mom (assuming she might have a greater role in the future)
@ Bold: Who? xd
 

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I´ve been thinking of the possibility of luffy becoming a yonkou in the future and i was right! The yonkou are the rulers of the new world because almost every island are their turf and anyone who messes there messes with them.

THIS IS GENIUS OF ODA! LUFFY HAS BEGUN! THIS IS MERELY THE FIRST STEP AND HE WILL MAKE OTHER ISLANDS HIS TURF AS HE GOES ALONG AND HE WILL BECOME A YONKOU BEFORE BECOMING PIRATE KING! WHEN THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCE HIM AS A YONKOU, THINK BACK TO THIS COMMENT!
 

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Luffy leaving the Straw Hat on Roger's grave at the end would be epic. But we also have to remember that his father is the leader of the revolutionary army, and that is definitely going to play a role in the future of the manga in the New World.

ugh there's just so much that's going to happen. This story could end up lasting 10 more years :D
 

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Luffy is gonna destroy the Candy Factory in front of those two crewmates of Big Mam, and thus dooming Fishman Island. Maybe that was Shirley prediction. Him destroying Candy Factory, would mean that Fishman Island is done for.
And he will destroy the Candy Factory to sever the bonds of Fishman island and Big Mam. Removing her influence from the island.
Sounds like something Luffy would do. (Like he did with Nami's room at Arlong Park)
Anyway, seeing Mugiwara's jolly roger @ fishman island will make me have a huge boner
 

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I´ve been thinking of the possibility of luffy becoming a yonkou in the future and i was right! The yonkou are the rulers of the new world because almost every island are their turf and anyone who messes there messes with them.

THIS IS GENIUS OF ODA! LUFFY HAS BEGUN! THIS IS MERELY THE FIRST STEP AND HE WILL MAKE OTHER ISLANDS HIS TURF AS HE GOES ALONG AND HE WILL BECOME A YONKOU BEFORE BECOMING PIRATE KING! WHEN THE GOVERNMENT ANNOUNCE HIM AS A YONKOU, THINK BACK TO THIS COMMENT!
that would be dumb for luffy to be a yonku hes going for pk and nothing less
 

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I call him Rodger, sound better. Do we have a problem?
It sounds exactly the same, but looks really ugly and ****ed up. We do have a problem. Of all the people who would spell a name from One Piece incorrectly, I'd never think you'd be one to spell Rogers name wrong.
 

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Lol, thanks.

I wonder if Luffy will actually defeat all the Yonkous. It seems like Big Mom is really hating this guy, but we still have the Lola card. Now, your end is possible, yet there are some stuff missing. Personally, ending Shanks with Blackbeard just to give Luffy the time to go to Raftel is not a very fulfilling ending for a character as big as Shanks. Now I'll give you one thing to think about:

Shanks traveled with Rodger to the end of the Grandline, I assume. The other option is that only a select few members of the Rodger Pirates actually made the last leg of the journey, while the others stayed behind. (Something to do with destiny?) Or maybe Shanks was purposedly left behind so that he could find One Piece on his own, with his own crew (like other young pirates (Buggy)), and only the old members of the crew made the final journey. In that case, Shanks went back to find a crew and then made it to the New World and is now trying to find One Piece. He doesn't seem very suspicious, and he is pretty laid back, the chances are that he is keeping a secret of some sorts.

On the other hand, he might have traveled to the end of the Grand Line, and is now waiting for something to happen. Rayleigh said they found the truth, but did not have the skills to understand it, or couldn't do something about it. Luffy is on the path to discover it, and so Shanks is waiting for him.

Maybe Shanks will be the guide for Luffy to either find Raftel or after he finds it, to pursue the truth. As such, Shanks role is not only to be an inspiration for Luffy, but to also be a guidance, linked with the void century.

Having Luffy put the hat on Shanks grave and then disband the Straw Hat Pirates is good though. But I wonder, what if it's someone else's grave? Possible suspects:

- Garp
- Dragon
- Rodger
- Rayleigh
- Luffy's Mom (assuming she might have a greater role in the future)
I must admit I didn't consider the Lola card until you brought it up, but you have to admit there is no definite proof (as of yet) that Big Mam IS Lola's mom, though everything points in that direction.

Now that I think about it, Shanks IS an enigma. I don't know what he's doing in the NW. I don't know what he's capable of (though we know it's a LOT). I don't know if he even saw One Piece too, maybe it went like you said. Or maybe he did, and he bet on Luffy to change the conclusion that they arrived at when Shanks was still on Roger's crew. I honestly don't know, the possibilities are endless.

Speaking of Luffy's mom though, I have some theories up my sleeve. First would be that his mom is a Tenryuubito. Dragon is out there wrecking countries, maybe trying to topple down the WG in order to see his wife, chained inside Mariejois. Next would be that she was killed by the WG for being a direct descendant of the Ancient Kingdom. Third would be that she's Crocodile. Nah, just playing with the third, but you never know.
 

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I must admit I didn't consider the Lola card until you brought it up, but you have to admit there is no definite proof (as of yet) that Big Mam IS Lola's mom, though everything points in that direction.

Now that I think about it, Shanks IS an enigma. I don't know what he's doing in the NW. I don't know what he's capable of (though we know it's a LOT). I don't know if he even saw One Piece too, maybe it went like you said. Or maybe he did, and he bet on Luffy to change the conclusion that they arrived at when Shanks was still on Roger's crew. I honestly don't know, the possibilities are endless.

Speaking of Luffy's mom though, I have some theories up my sleeve. First would be that his mom is a Tenryuubito. Dragon is out there wrecking countries, maybe trying to topple down the WG in order to see his wife, chained inside Mariejois. Next would be that she was killed by the WG for being a direct descendant of the Ancient Kingdom. Third would be that she's Crocodile. Nah, just playing with the third, but you never know.
Shanks saw it, Buggy most likely too. Roger disbanded the crew after he became the Pirate King.
Rayleigh said they were too hasty and couldn't do anything about it. Roger is waiting for a D. Shanks is going to guide that D. to become the Pirate King and fulfill his destiny. That's what Rayleigh was talking about. I guess there was some kind of prediction written upon Rio Poneglyph or one of the poneglyphs.

Shanks told Whitebeard he bet everything on the new generation.
Luffy is practicly a reborn soul of Roger. I believe he even has the same ability of hearing "voice of all things".
He can communicate/understand animals, could hear Sea Kings. Oda deliberately kept Luffy away from Poneglyphs.

Imo, Rayleigh was too old for that job so Shanks decided to do it.

Oh, and I got my "wtf" face for few seconds when you said Crocodile is Luffy's mom xD

this makes me wonder how dragons going to introduce himself to luffy
*Dragon makes a long speech about destiny and winds of change*

Luffy : Meat?! Did I hear meat? Hey, Ossan, do you have any meat?!
 
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