rasenshuriken VS kirin
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Forget Me Not
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you're all retarded. especially those saying rasenshuriken is stronger than kirin.
no. just no. unless you're actually an idiot, either way you look at it kirin is obviously the better technique.
brief explanation:
kirin isn't directly using the user's chakra nature, rather it's being used to invoke genuine (as in legitimate) lightning, and manifest it into a dragon-like entity then manipulate said entity (Kirin) to attack any designated target at will virtually instantaneously (speed of light rate).
seriously. the contrast between these two techniques are so great that there shouldn't even be a comparison, which is painfully obvious.
as for the one comparing Kakashi's feat of being able to cut lightning down with the Lightning Blade to the situation (Karin vs. Rasenshuriken), stop. think. you're comparing standard lightning in the purest form with no designation whatsoever to something that can literally be thrown at you in the blink of the eye (the latter [Kirin] being what fits this description). im going to stop there and let you reconsider what you said. maybe you'll see the light (the "light" metaphorically being the truth to the matter — which is basically Karin being generally superior to the rasenshuriken given the reasoning I provided) eventually if i keep it at that.
Have a nice day.
no. just no. unless you're actually an idiot, either way you look at it kirin is obviously the better technique.
brief explanation:
kirin isn't directly using the user's chakra nature, rather it's being used to invoke genuine (as in legitimate) lightning, and manifest it into a dragon-like entity then manipulate said entity (Kirin) to attack any designated target at will virtually instantaneously (speed of light rate).
seriously. the contrast between these two techniques are so great that there shouldn't even be a comparison, which is painfully obvious.
as for the one comparing Kakashi's feat of being able to cut lightning down with the Lightning Blade to the situation (Karin vs. Rasenshuriken), stop. think. you're comparing standard lightning in the purest form with no designation whatsoever to something that can literally be thrown at you in the blink of the eye (the latter [Kirin] being what fits this description). im going to stop there and let you reconsider what you said. maybe you'll see the light (the "light" metaphorically being the truth to the matter — which is basically Karin being generally superior to the rasenshuriken given the reasoning I provided) eventually if i keep it at that.
Have a nice day.
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GodaimeRaikage
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What a waste of a post.I give you one reason why Kirin can't be compare to Rasenshuriken.Rasenshuriken can be done in an instant, Kirin has to be prepare.Kirin is nearly impossible to used in battle.The only reason sasuke was able to used it in his battle with Itachi was because Itachi used Amaterasu which help heat up the atmosphere along with Sasuke using his fire jutsus.If Itachi was seriously trying to killed Sasuke, sasuke would have died before he ever got a chance to used Kirin.Furthermore, if sasuke was fighting a shinobi who wasn't a fire type and couldn't help him heat up the atmosphere, Kirin would be completely out of the question.The simple fact is a jutsu that takes as much preparation as Kirin is useless in almost all circumstances.Rasenshuriken is the better jutsu because it can be used at the drop of a dime.Practicality trumps power.
Animeisalive
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of course if the 2 actually clashed somehow...then the rasenshuriken takes the win...the only reason to me being that lighting < wind, other than that, kirin is still a very powerful tech, it can probably do damage the rasenshuriken cant in some cases
and....this is supposed to be in the VS thread right? >.>
and....this is supposed to be in the VS thread right? >.>
Forget Me Not
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Lol. denial is more than futile here. the information i provided isn't disputable — at least from the likes of you (or practically anyone here for that matter), rasengan + rasengan variant fanboy. Here, let me go ahead and further explain this to you. Kirin can obviously be compared to Rasenshuriken in that sense because that's irrelevant as they're both techniques; initialization speed is not the sole aspect of this argument, debate, or whatever you want to call it. No, if you honestly considered the full extent of the principles of Kirin, you'd see how the mechanics behind it are able to be utilized in order to use the technique seamlessly (with not as huge of a problem as you're making it seem in other words). And you're an idiot for that statement by the way, "the only reason Sasuke was able to use Kirin was because Itachi's Amaterasu helped heat up the atmosphere." this wasn't stated nor was it even indicated in the manga OR the anime. this is simply an assumption. not even the people on the opposition of the argument of Kirin being stronger than Rasenshuriken would agree with this because even they're able to distinguish lie or otherwise word of mouth from truth/factual information (which is pretty much all I've provided here, might I add). I'm disappointed in you for this. the fact that you've resorted to spouting complete and utter BS only proves you morons are running out of actual arguments that qualify in this thread — that appeases me, but considering who it is, it kind of doesn't. anyways, the majority of your post is full of irrelevance (if you need proof or elaboration just ask, I'd be glad to point out why this entire post is invalid) so I won't even categorize this as a valid counterargument. I commend you for your efforts, though. kirin is obviously superior in terms of power. initiation time is irrelevant considering a storm could easily be provoked in the heat of a battle and utilized later on.
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basically, your whole argument disgusts me. come on rasengan fanboys, anything else even remotely sensible to add? I'll wait. this guy's post was simply horribly put together. nothing he's said has made even the slightest bit of difference here; nothing he's said has changed the fact that Kirin is generally superior to the Rasenshuriken.
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It's pure and simple logic. If it's about The two jutsus clashing, Kirin absolutely annihilates RS. RS is just highly vibrating chakra, Kirin is lightning in pure form Wind > Lightning applies only when both are generated from chakra.
Now,if it's about the two users being in battle and using the jutsu, Then RS. Kirin needs set up and time is a key. RS can be instantaneously made and used. The other guy won't just stand there and wait for sasuke to Prepare the jutsu.
Summed up, If the techniques are colliding head on , Kirin
If the users are battling and have to prepare the justu, RS.
Now,if it's about the two users being in battle and using the jutsu, Then RS. Kirin needs set up and time is a key. RS can be instantaneously made and used. The other guy won't just stand there and wait for sasuke to Prepare the jutsu.
Summed up, If the techniques are colliding head on , Kirin
If the users are battling and have to prepare the justu, RS.
bestevawuz
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Rasenshuriken
Btw to the moron that said Kirin will own someone before they can even form a rasenshuriken thats retarded this thread is when their both produced and they vs each other which jutsu will win. I'm going to have to say Rasenshuriken it destroys targets at the cellular level which is more intense than the Kirin. Rasenshuriken obliterates anything in its way and forms a massive crater...
Btw to the moron that said Kirin will own someone before they can even form a rasenshuriken thats retarded this thread is when their both produced and they vs each other which jutsu will win. I'm going to have to say Rasenshuriken it destroys targets at the cellular level which is more intense than the Kirin. Rasenshuriken obliterates anything in its way and forms a massive crater...
GofOfNothing
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If we take the preparation time for kirin then rasenshuriken is better
if we only talk about the jutsu not how much chakra it cost or the preparation time etc
i say kirin=rs
and if there would be a thunderstorm and if we would take that fact too
kirin>>>>rs
if we only talk about the jutsu not how much chakra it cost or the preparation time etc
i say kirin=rs
and if there would be a thunderstorm and if we would take that fact too
kirin>>>>rs
Forget Me Not
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thank god. it's actually commonsense. yes, RS has quicker initialization speed. no RS doesn't have a higher caliber of power than Kirin. yes, Kirin is a generally faster technique than RS (that means disregarding the amount of time it takes to cast the respective jutsus). no, it isn't extremely difficult to utilize Kirin effectively in battle — actually, if you think an inch deeper below the surface, you'd see that at this point it's relatively easy for Sasuke to use Kirin in battle. yes, if the techniques were colliding Kirin would triumph. overall, Kirin is the more powerful tech. That's pretty much it in a nutshell, as the user above me stated. Period.
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Forget Me Not
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sincerest apologies. let's just say it's a bad tendency. try not to take it too personally.
GofOfNothing
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I never thought about lightning chakra <wind chakra
pure lightning>windchakra
maybe then it would be possible for kirin to have the upper hand if it clashes with rs
pure lightning>windchakra
maybe then it would be possible for kirin to have the upper hand if it clashes with rs
Forget Me Not
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uh, just throwing this out there: if both techniques were both initialized (prepared in other words), if they were launched simultaneously there probably wouldn't be an opportunity to clash considering Kirin's speed excels beyond that of Rasenshuriken's. in all honesty. but if they did happen to collide, then I do still firmly believe that Kirin would triumph.
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koopla2011
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Its fuuny how dumb you naruto fan boys are.uuhhh lets see kirin takes to long rasenshuriken wins umm no.Get your facts straight firestyle is whats used to begin the justu ohhh naruto would get fried you idiots then owned by kirin. smh
Forget Me Not
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yeah. a thunderstorm being existent is a required condition in order to use the Kirin. however, as shown in the manga, it could also be simulated or invoked via fire-style techs or any other techniques with capabilities to cause a storm. but yeah, i agree. if it were a rainy season he could use the technique most effectively.
apologies accepted...nwei this thing is really easy, in terms of battle usage FRS pawns kirin...in terms of raw power, in case the two jutsus really have time to clash...kirin wins it 1:1...but if naruto does a multiple clone jutsu to fight it over like what he did to madara's wood release, wind manipulation + shape manipulation + kyuubi chakra > lightning
GodaimeRaikage
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You are quite possibly the dumbest person in the history of the world.You didn't dispute anything I said.You just ramble off a bunch of words which the majority I would assume you don't know the meaning of.You constantly repeated you provided facts without providing any facts.I'm not sure if you are a troll trying to piss people off or you are so stupid you don't know the differences between an argument and meaningless banter.
Unlike you, I provide facts.Apparently, you have a problem reading.
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Now I'm done with you.To summed up your post, it was bah bah bah your argument is irrelevant.Bah bah bah Kirin is superior.Bah bah bah you're a fanboy. You didn't attempt to make a case for why Kirin is better because you can't.You lack the intelligence needed to make a decent argument so you resorted to name calling and meaningless sentences that didn't prove anything nor added anything to the debate.Here's some advice, try getting someone who wasn't born in the back of a gas station to argue for you.Itachi Namikaze is a member who unlike you, can think.Maybe you should give him a pm and begged him to make an argument for you.
