Base Naruto vs KM clone

[lanakau888]

Whatever the case the data book is from kishi. Also why are you mentioning sage mode, i thought this was base naruto and you say im grasping at straws. If you disagree with the data book stats thats between you and kishi xd.

Wow never thought you'd stoop this low, if you are serious that is, and I hope you aren't.

You say sasuke's speed has nothing to do with stamina. What you are basically saying is that there isnt a correlation between speed and stamina when there clearly is even in real life. Anyway after kakashi used kamui which affects his stamina you remember what he said about his speed and if it wasnt for naruto sakura wouldve been dead by now.

It was a long time since kakashi had used kamui. And kamui doesn't just drain kakashi's stamina it actually has negative affects on his body long after its use, which is why gai had to carry kakashi back.

Im not hating, kakashi said it because he has learnt a technique that not even the fourth could and died. That doesnt mean base naruto > kakashi

Kakashi says that Naruto is as strong as me, probably stronger. It doesn't mention anything about the technique. the technique was a factor in naruto being stronger than kakashi, but it was not nearly everything. At that time, naruto had improved in both his stamina, and his use of shadow clones. And he has feats that put him at least at kakashi's level. Its crazy how you use feats when you like it, and then disregard them when it doesn't suit your argument.

 

[lanakau888]

That metal was not thick at all to give him such protection.

Then why didn't the sword penetrate the metal? It stopped at the metal, which means it says nothing about kakashi's durability.

Also zabuza's sword is alot bigger and heavier than the one used on naruto

Doesn't matter since it was the metal that stopped it, not kakashi's body.

 

[Blaze Release]

Wow never thought you'd stoop this low, if you are serious that is, and I hope you aren't.


It was a long time since kakashi had used kamui. And kamui doesn't just drain kakashi's stamina it actually has negative affects on his body long after its use, which is why gai had to carry kakashi back.


Kakashi says that Naruto is as strong as me, probably stronger. It doesn't mention anything about the technique. At that time, naruto had improved in both his stamina, and his use of shadow clones. And he has feats that put him at least at kakashi's level. Its crazy how you use feats when you like it, and then disregard them when it doesn't suit your argument.

Im not stooping low, base naruto is a fodder ninja with an s-rank technique. Thats why his stats is that low. As i said this is a dispute between you and kishi

Also i said there is strong correlation between stamina and your speed. You dont have to be a genius to understand. Just relate it to real life

After he learnt that technique does he say this. Anyway base naruto cannot beat kakashi as i said. Im not a kakashi fan nor am i a naruto hater. I cannot believe youd stoop this low to say that

 

[Blaze Release]

Then why didn't the sword penetrate the metal? It stopped at the metal, which means it says nothing about kakashi's durability.



Doesn't matter since it was the metal that stopped it, not kakashi's body.

How can you say it didnt penetrate the metal when kakashi was clearly bleeding from that hand

Kakashi's body stopped it. He was bleeding

 

[Blaze Release]

Lanakau888 it was fun reigniting our previous debates but im tired now.
Enjoy the rest of your day my good friend

 

[lanakau888]

Im not stooping low, base naruto is a fodder ninja with an s-rank technique. Thats why his stats is that low. As i said this is a dispute between you and kishi

- stooping is using a databook that was published in 2008 which puts base naruto just a little above sakura as indisputable proof that naruto is weaker than kakashi.

Also i said there is strong correlation between stamina and your speed. You dont have to be a genius to understand. Just relate it to real life

It does not work like that in naruto. Characters have the same speed unless they have a character statement or the mechanics were explored earlier in the manga.

After he learnt that technique does he say this. Anyway base naruto cannot beat kakashi as i said. Im not a kakashi fan nor am i a naruto hater. I cannot believe youd stoop this low to say that

You know you are a naruto hater when you:
- completely ignore blatant power statements in the manga
- say current naruto = part 2 naruto + rasenshuriken
- say base naruto is a fodder ninja


Anyway I'm done debating with you. I don't know what's wrong with you right now, maybe its because finals are coming up, but you are definitely not using your usual logic.

 

[lanakau888]

How can you say it didnt penetrate the metal when kakashi was clearly bleeding from that hand

Kakashi's body stopped it. He was bleeding

This is the last one, but please provide the scan.

Lanakau888 it was fun reigniting our previous debates but im tired now.
Enjoy the rest of your day my good friend

for the first time, it wasn't really fun debating with you.

but oh well in the end, its just fictional characters in a fictional story. Have a good one.

 

[Blast41]

....Release maybe, lol. so Naruto

 

[Kryptiic]

Naruto wins

 

[Zoro..]

Naruto wins this one