Yata mirror possible weakness

[DigitalMonster]

I ask that in a general manner,if Mu hasn't been shown to attack while invisible it doesn't mean he can.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

That Mu's presence can be detected by some particular shinobi.

Was that really not clear enough for you? Anyways thanks for your "thoughts" on my post, and you're welcome to come back in a few chapters when you have something worthwhile to say.

On the retrospect,your post isn't worth responding to.

But you responded to it?? You're really smart!!! A+! xd I'm done with you, please don't talk to me........ -__- seriously...

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

This doesn't prove shit, you need to learn comprehension my friend. Sorry to curse, but ignorance gets me annoyed. This doesn't have anything to do with long vs short range. This is actually proving the opposite. Taking control of someone from outside the range of their sensors??? What does that mean to you??? Not that hard. It means IF it was happening, which it wasn't, that the person would have to be close enough to see someone, Itachi can't use his genjusu unless he is IN RANGE. "Hi I', Itachi, I'll just look in the distance and control someone 50 miles away because I can." No, he can't do that. They are just saying he can control someone after they have been in reach and keep them in control after they have gone a long distance from the actual point of entering the genjutsu.

so were assuming after all, and that's proof there no point arguing with you:izuna:

 

[DigitalMonster]

>Disdaining a post without reading it thoroughly.

 

[DigitalMonster]

TNS,you can't ignore me.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

so were assuming after all, and that's proof there no point arguing with you:izuna:

That's proof that you know I'm right, I really don't know how else to put it, I like Itachi as much as the next guy.......Well maybe not as much as you or ShinobiX, but still, I know when he is defeated. It's stupid to say he can use genjutsu at long ranges because there are no feats to prove that. I say I don't argue with fanboys/fangirls, so this is my last post, don't bother responding, it will fall on deaf ears U_U

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

That's proof that you know I'm right, I really don't know how else to put it, I like Itachi as much as the next guy.......Well maybe not as much as you or ShinobiX, but still, I know when he is defeated. It's stupid to say he can use genjutsu at long ranges because there are no feats to prove that. I say I don't argue with fanboys/fangirls, so this is my last post, don't bother responding, it will fall on deaf ears U_U

1stly u don't have to be so rude in ur post, its no good

and u can't say u were right ok ? because ppl are entitled to their opinion, so ur statement only right for u and only you understand ?

 

[Fluffyman]

But this doesnt mean it can negate attacks from ADVANCED natures, such as lava and dust. Part of the reason I mentioned itachi is because of the itachi vs muu match-up. Personally, I think muu would win (He's a terrible match-up).

Advanced or not, its still an elemental jutsu so Yata Mirror will block it off. Yata Mirror also blocked physical attacks like Sasuke´s Sword and explosive Tags and a strike from Orochimarus monster-snake summoning so its not even restricted to elemental attacks.
Maybe(just speculation from my side!) you can destroy the Yata Mirror with an physical attack thats strong enough but who could be capable of that? Raikage and maybe Gai with 7-8 Gates. But these 2 are very vulnerable to Genjutsu.

Itachi with his Susano´o is invincible (also stated by Zetsu), everything we saw is pointing torwards that. The only way of beating Itachi is surviving until he gets blind..and there I wish everyone good luck. Itachi isnt a moron, he will activate Susano´o only when needed (he has the needed reflexes for that - Kirin attack from Sasuke) so his eyes will last more than enough for a 1vs.1.

So Muu´s Dust Release is useless against Yata Mirror.

Itachi also can see Muu´s chakra, he may be invisible but he isnt using Space/Time Jutsu to erase his presence. And Sharingan can see that chakra.

And the picture of Kyuubikiller is valid:

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could take control of someone from outside the range of our sensors"

Its about taking control over someone from extreme ranges, its NOT about controlling someone over extreme ranges.
Itachi can cast Genjutsu over big distances, Manga says so.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

Or the shield could mix up different chakra natures to counter the attack anyway?

 

[DigitalMonster]

So,with inductive and seemingly indisputable argument,Itachi>Mu.

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[Mante]

Can someone send me a link to databook via a vm.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Advanced or not, its still an elemental jutsu so Yata Mirror will block it off. Yata Mirror also blocked physical attacks like Sasuke´s Sword and explosive Tags and a strike from Orochimarus monster-snake summoning so its not even restricted to elemental attacks.
Maybe(just speculation from my side!) you can destroy the Yata Mirror with an physical attack thats strong enough but who could be capable of that? Raikage and maybe Gai with 7-8 Gates. But these 2 are very vulnerable to Genjutsu.

Itachi with his Susano´o is invincible (also stated by Zetsu), everything we saw is pointing torwards that. The only way of beating Itachi is surviving until he gets blind..and there I wish everyone good luck. Itachi isnt a moron, he will activate Susano´o only when needed (he has the needed reflexes for that - Kirin attack from Sasuke) so his eyes will last more than enough for a 1vs.1.

So Muu´s Dust Release is useless against Yata Mirror.

Itachi also can see Muu´s chakra, he may be invisible but he isnt using Space/Time Jutsu to erase his presence. And Sharingan can see that chakra.

And the picture of Kyuubikiller is valid:

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could take control of someone from outside the range of our sensors"

Its about taking control over someone from extreme ranges, its NOT about controlling someone over extreme ranges.
Itachi can cast Genjutsu over big distances, Manga says so.

You are wrong in the fact that it wasn't my picture, it was actually a picture from someone trying to prove me wrong.....FAIL xd. And you are wrong in how you comprehend. How the hell is Itachi going to take control of someone without being in range of him using his genjutsu??? Explain that to me? There are no feats what so ever to prove that, and that is definitely not what the manga has stated.

And you are wrong again, Muu totally erases his chakra, it can't be detected by any doujutsu as far as we know. It has only been detected by Gaara's sand so far, it is stated that he completely erases his chakra, COMPLETELY.

Itachi with Susanoo is NOT invincible, he said "almost invincible" so I will use the almost as Muu using his Dust Release, encasing the whole Susanoo and blowing the biitch up, like I said before lol

 

[tracytracy22]

So,with inductive and seemingly indisputable argument,Itachi>Mu.

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Even though my thread isnt about who is better than who, itachi is probably stronger than muu, but muu is just a nightmare match-up for itachi. He can keep out of his range and turn invisiable, completely erasing his chakra in the process, thus preventing itachi from locating him. I dont know if muu can use dust release, or any jutsu while he is invisible but can attack itachi from his blind spots with weapons perhaps?

 

[tracytracy22]

Advanced or not, its still an elemental jutsu so Yata Mirror will block it off. Yata Mirror also blocked physical attacks like Sasuke´s Sword and explosive Tags and a strike from Orochimarus monster-snake summoning so its not even restricted to elemental attacks.
Maybe(just speculation from my side!) you can destroy the Yata Mirror with an physical attack thats strong enough but who could be capable of that? Raikage and maybe Gai with 7-8 Gates. But these 2 are very vulnerable to Genjutsu.

Itachi with his Susano´o is invincible (also stated by Zetsu), everything we saw is pointing torwards that. The only way of beating Itachi is surviving until he gets blind..and there I wish everyone good luck. Itachi isnt a moron, he will activate Susano´o only when needed (he has the needed reflexes for that - Kirin attack from Sasuke) so his eyes will last more than enough for a 1vs.1.

So Muu´s Dust Release is useless against Yata Mirror.

Itachi also can see Muu´s chakra, he may be invisible but he isnt using Space/Time Jutsu to erase his presence. And Sharingan can see that chakra.

And the picture of Kyuubikiller is valid:

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could take control of someone from outside the range of our sensors"

Its about taking control over someone from extreme ranges, its NOT about controlling someone over extreme ranges.
Itachi can cast Genjutsu over big distances, Manga says so.

I really hope they do show someone attacking itachi with an advanced nature, perhaps pakura or sumthing. Anyways...

This is only a theory and you never know, advanced natures might actually affect the yata mirror. The mirror does have all the nature transformations but those are the basic transformations. We dont know if it contains any advanced natures...but I have a feeling that advanced natures cant be negated by the mirror. Advanced natures are completely different to the basic natures. I mean you cant just mix a fire and earth jutsu and say it lava you know? Its a whole new element.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

Even though my thread isnt about who is better than who, itachi is probably stronger than muu, but muu is just a nightmare match-up for itachi. He can keep out of his range and turn invisiable, completely erasing his chakra in the process, thus preventing itachi from locating him. I dont know if muu can use dust release, or any jutsu while he is invisible but can attack itachi from his blind spots with weapons perhaps?

It doesn't matter, as long as he is invisible, he can do just about anything as long as his opponent isn't Gaara. No one can detect him besides Gaara, so Itachi will be basically fighting air. Muu can appear long distance and start spamming Dust Release. Itachi can't do anything but summon Susanoo, which will be obliterated along with Itachi, leaving his legendary weapons for Muu, end of battle.

 

[Fluffyman]

You are wrong in the fact that it wasn't my picture, it was actually a picture from someone trying to prove me wrong.....FAIL xd.

lol

And you are wrong in how you comprehend. How the hell is Itachi going to take control of someone without being in range of him using his genjutsu??? Explain that to me? There are no feats what so ever to prove that, and that is definitely not what the manga has stated.

Not only feats, there is a prove. Look again on the picture.

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could !take control! of someone from outside the range of our sensors".

That is a prove.
They are talking about that Itachi is able to take control over persons which are far away.
Your point would be valid if they had said something like:

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could cast a Genjutsu on someone and than control him from outside the range of our sensors".

I hope thats better understandable now.

Well I was wrong with Muu´s chakra.

Zetsu probably said "almost invincible" because he knows that Itachi will get blind after using his MS too much.

 

[tracytracy22]

lol



Not only feats, there is a prove. Look again on the picture.

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could !take control! of someone from outside the range of our sensors".

That is a prove.
They are talking about that Itachi is able to take control over persons which are far away.
Your point would be valid if they had said something like:

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could cast a Genjutsu on someone and than control him from outside the range of our sensors".

I hope thats better understandable now.

Well I was wrong with Muu´s chakra.

Zetsu probably said "almost invincible" because he knows that Itachi will get blind after using his MS too much.

The mirror doesnt cover 360 degress...so in a sense itachi is still vulnerable. But susanoo is a very good defence so your not gonna get past it that easily. As long as your able to keep away from his sword and magatama attack, and attack him and stall him, then its gonna deplete itachi chakra reserves...

 

[Kyuubikiller]

lol



Not only feats, there is a prove. Look again on the picture.

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could !take control! of someone from outside the range of our sensors".

That is a prove.
They are talking about that Itachi is able to take control over persons which are far away.
Your point would be valid if they had said something like:

"Uchiha Itachi is the only one who could cast a Genjutsu on someone and than control him from outside the range of our sensors".

I hope thats better understandable now.

Well I was wrong with Muu´s chakra.

Zetsu probably said "almost invincible" because he knows that Itachi will get blind after using his MS too much.

No, that is not what they are saying for the last time!!! :flaw: I hate to use that immature smiley but I have too!! You're being really ridiculous right now! I told you what they are saying, and there is no feats to back up what you think they are saying. Itachi has never cast a genjutsu on someone from far distances, how can you sit there and say he can? It's just beyond me how you can't comprehend!!!! O.O

 

[SharinganVsRinnegan]

I've been seeing a lot of XXX vs itachi threads and many people who post say itachi will win because the yata mirror will make him invincible.

The thing I want to mention is in regards to elemental jutsu. According to the databook, the yata mirror is endowed with all chakra natures and it can change its own characteristics depending on the characteristics of the attack it receives, making the technique ineffective.

But this doesnt mean it can negate attacks from ADVANCED natures, such as lava and dust. Part of the reason I mentioned itachi is because of the itachi vs muu match-up. Personally, I think muu would win (He's a terrible match-up).

So what does everyone think

Thanks!

***This isn't an itachi hate thread. It's in regards to the yata mirror and its possible weakness to advance natures***

whos muu? sorry i neww

 

[Kyuubikiller]

whos muu? sorry i neww

Muu is The previous Tsuchikage before Oonoki. He is the one who taught Oonoki how to use Dust Release, a Jutsu that is the only jutsu in the Narutoverse to combine three elements, earth, wind and fire to make a powerful attack that disintegrates everything in it's path, EVEN SUSANOO. someone my be able to regenerate Susanoo since it is an attack, but Itachi can't do so because he has low stamina, he would faint before he could conjure Susanoo's toenail.